hulaburger
cute bean
oh for real? I didn't hear about the way the hearing handled being wrong. let me know if you have more about that.
Ferguson: Your Thoughts.
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oh for real? I didn't hear about the way the hearing handled being wrong. let me know if you have more about that.
If and only if Brown attempted to grab the officer's gun--note that I'm not saying he did--then the shooting would be justified by self-defense laws.
If a person is posing an immediate threat to one's well-being, then one can take it out with an as equal force as the one being presented.
In other words, if someone were about to shoot me, I would have the right to shoot them. If someone attempts to grab your gun from out of your hands, what is going to happen next if they take the gun? Is the gun just going to fall to the ground, unused? Most likely not. If someone has the audacity to come up to me and steal my gun from out of my hands (if I were an officer) then they are probably going to shoot me.
So I take them out with an equal force to the one being presented.
Besides, a white man getting shot--and killed--by a black cop has never gotten so much attention, or at least not in my lifetime. Why is it suddenly a big deal when a black man gets shot--and then dies--by a white cop? Many cops have "gotten away" with shooting people they deem suspicious, why should this case be any different? Because, suddenly, race is involved?
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honestly I'm hoping M O L K O returns, as they're far more knowledgeable than I am and I feel I'd just mess up
though if you had the time, you could skim the thread for links and stuff. they and others have already posted lots of useful ones backing up arguments and etc
though if you had the time, you could skim the thread for links and stuff. they and others have already posted lots of useful ones backing up arguments and etc
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SuperVandal
got a blank space bb
yup i sort of ignored the first 30 or 40 pages
So an equal force of failing to grab a gun is... Using a gun? What?
people are just now realizing this is a serious issue that needs to be stamped out
so people are slow to act is the reason
SuperVandal
got a blank space bb
congrats you answered your own question
People actually think he's guilty? What the actual f*** xD The guy was protecting himself, he clearly told him to stop walking but he kept walking towards him. Then, he decided to charge at Wilson, so of course he was going to shoot him since he felt threatened. Did he deserve to be killed? Of course not. Did he deserve to be shot? H*** yea he did. The only reason they are making a big deal out of it is because he was black. If he was a white guy none of this would be happening. My god, all of these stupid f****** people just need to stop rioting because they are just making it worse for themselves. If they think they have a bad reputation now...ha, wait until this is all over. They will forever be known as the stupid people who ruined their own city. I can't wait.
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Let me get her for you : )
hulaburger
cute bean
when you say this.. are you talking about black folks?
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SuperVandal
got a blank space bb
ignorance with a hint of racism. cool
An equal force of what would most likely have happened if he had gotten the gun.
What else could the officer had done to stop Brown from getting his gun--that is, if he was going for it?
Sure, it didn't happen--but it was about to. The threat in question can even be verbal--as long as it puts the person into a position where they are fearful for their lives, they can strike before stricken.
if he was white the cop would have been in jail 25 to life lmao. I presume you are talking about black people when you say they are ruining their reputation? On the internet there is plenty of videos of white people jaywalking, are any of them dead for it?
hulaburger
cute bean
mte lol. she didnt even try to hide it
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wintersoldier
im trash
if you don't think this case is about race then you need to educate yourself more on the matter bc i'm tired of people coming in here talking about how it wouldn't matter if he's white or that it's not about race. countless black men and women are victims of police brutality and their cases get swept under the rug bc of this corrupt system. this very system that's supposed to protect it's citizens, yet places them in harms way.
nothing will change unless people make sure their voices are heard. i don't think it's stupid for people to be rioting. they have a right to be angry, they have a right to be tired with the system. of course i don't agree with looting and vandalism, but that's not the point right now. there are PLENTY of people who are holding peaceful protests, but it's not shown bc that's not what the media wants their viewers to see. if you opened your eyes and actually look at around you would see the truth behind these protests.
really though? you can't wait for these protestors to viewed as people who ruined their owned city? the people who ruined the city were not the protesters, but the people behind the cover up. however, you shouldn't worry too much... i'm sure they'll be okay in the end, unlike the victims of their brutality.
How the hearing was mishandled:
First: Darren did not conduct a incident report of the altercation between him and mike brown, first red flag and is against the missiouri police code of conduct[link of the missouri police department handbook]
Second: here's an article of how badly the case was handled
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/25/ferguson-grand-jury-evidence-mistakes_n_6220814.html
This is a great article that goes into detail of the errors of the case.
Third:The Autopsy was completed by someone that has no medical credentials
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d-forensics-expert-in-the-michael-brown-case/
This is all I can think of at 3am. Sorry I got the text at 1 but only read before I went to bed. If there's anything that needs to be added please feel free to share it
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This is the most disgusting display of ignorance I've seen in this thread.
Here's a masterpost to help guide you
opinionatedwhitegirl.tumblr.com/post/103771603242/im-literally-so-disgusted-by-peoples-response-to
but sadly I think you have your mind made up. And in your twisted mind frame an unarmed black man walking up to an officer is deserving of a gun shot. Ok thanks noted.
.... Sigh. You should try informing yourself before posting.
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I fixed it just a little bit. Just watch the language.
Welcome to this thread. For over the past 50 pages, I was trying to say the same thing, but people have pointed at me in a negative light for agreeing that Martin and Brown were punks. I'm glad that NewLeaf13 and I are not alone anymore, but some people take their opinions extremely seriously. In the contrary, I understand why they are extreme towards their views as they insult people with contradicting opinions. For over 400 years, black people have been primarily treated wrong in America and the colonies that existed prior to America. First, there was slavery. Then there was segregation. And even if the Civil Rights era is over, black people are still being treated unequally. For example, blacks were targeted more by police due to racial profiling and they get punished extra, even if a white person does the same thing. This is kinda the reason why they take race as an excuse in situations like this, and why the supporters for Brown and Martin are more extreme towards their views than the opponents are to their views. But it still leaves no excuse to attack others for having different opinions or to point at them in a negative light for believing one way. It leads to an argument that could turn into a board war.
Personally, I don't care what color their skin is, or what gender they are, or what religious beliefs they have, if they do a horrible crime, they should get equal the punishment.
Our justice system has been messed up lately (including in the Supreme Court, like when they upheld Obamacare in 2012).
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The thief was a criminal, even unarmed the cop wouldn't know. If he felt his life was in immediate danger it is ok. I mean it isn't ok someone died, no matter race or age, but the cop wanted to go back to his family as much as the kid wanted to do whatever he wanted. I feel the cop is fine with no chargers, maybe a recap of police classes but he shot because the kid reached for something, not a weapon since he was unarmed. I understand everyone sees differently and this is my view. Please don't bash me because I don't agree with you.
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