Ferguson: Your Thoughts.

[KarlaKGB]

the problem with ferguson is that ppl are treating it as the test case for all of the racial issues in america where it's all or nothing. they treat the position that wilson murdered brown as fact, when the only thing that can be considered fact is that wilson killed brown. rather with so much conflicting evidence and testimony, nobody knows wat really happened. u cant convict anyone of murder under these circumstances because u cant prove any narrative beyond reasonable doubt. and thats why the grand jury refused to indict wilson, because u cant have trial by public opinion.

 

[oath2order]

the problem with ferguson is that ppl are treating it as the test case for all of the racial issues in america where it's all or nothing. they treat the position that wilson murdered brown as fact, when the only thing that can be considered fact is that wilson killed brown. rather with so much conflicting evidence and testimony, nobody knows wat really happened. u cant convict anyone of murder under these circumstances because u cant prove any narrative beyond reasonable doubt. and thats why the grand jury refused to indict wilson, because u cant have trial by public opinion.

Trial by public opinion is basically how all these cases go. Casey Anthony, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and probably countless more that I can't think of.

Pretty sure a good chunk of people here don't understand how the justice system works. Innocent until proven guilty, and as you said, it has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

But this isn't going to convince anybody. We could go on about how the system is supposed to work, but I'm sure that for quite a few people, the minute they learned that a white cop shot a black kid, that cop was guilty no matter what was uncovered.

 

[KarlaKGB]

u cud also see just how emotionally invested some ppl are in this thread and how it really puts their ability to be objective into question. like that dolt who censored wilson's name lmao. its not like ppl do it to h*tler and im pretty sure h*tler was a lot nastier to black ppl

 

[Nyxia]

u cud also see just how emotionally invested some ppl are in this thread and how it really puts their ability to be objective into question. like that dolt who censored wilson's name lmao. its not like ppl do it to h*tler and im pretty sure h*tler was a lot nastier to black ppl

Emotions seem to be what's causing a lot of these negative posts. My thoughts are with the parents who lost a child and Wilson who is now out of a job with a child on the way.

 

[Katelyn]

ignorance with a hint of racism. cool

Lmao that wasn't racist at all. I was just saying the only reason it's such a big thing is because it was a white cop that shot a black guy. If it was a white guy that got shot, it would have been done and over with. But, they are using this as a chance to pull the race card and get "justice".

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if he was white the cop would have been in jail 25 to life lmao. I presume you are talking about black people when you say they are ruining their reputation? On the internet there is plenty of videos of white people jaywalking, are any of them dead for it?

No, I'm not talking about black people ruining their reputation. I'm talking about everyone that is rioting, they're all ruining the city's reputation as a whole. There's also white, Hispanic, etc. people rioting. So all of you that think that was a racist comment are so overly sensitive it's unreal.

 

[KarlaKGB]

and also lol at the ppl who are spinning it by saying jaywalking is a capital crime. situations escalate, and wat may have been a cop telling someone off for jaywalking could easily escalate into a deadly force incident. there are many videos out there of routine traffic stops resulting in the murder of a police officer.

 

[Katelyn]

when you say this.. are you talking about black folks?

No, I'm just talking about everyone that is rioting. They're all just ruining their city's reputation.

 

[M O L K O]

Hi I'm that dolt and when the kkk and neo Nazis are the ones emotionally invested in Darren's side I.e the grand wizard himself. I don't think it's wrong for people to be just as*emotionally invested.

I'm on mobile but I'll clean up the thread that got insanely messy in two pages once I get to my computer. Once again I'll gladly look at your proof and sources of Darrens innocence. However in all 50 pages no one has brought any.
Th*nks

 

[KarlaKGB]

Hi I'm that dolt and when the kkk and neo Nazis are the ones emotionally invested in Darren's side I.e the grand wizard himself. I don't think it's wrong for people to be just as*emotionally invested.

I'm on mobile but I'll clean up the thread that got insanely messy in two pages once I get to my computer. Once again I'll gladly look at your proof and sources of Darrens innocence. However in all 50 pages no one has brought any.
Th*nks

two wrongs dont make a right, but i see u pull urself down to the same depths as the kkk and neo nazis.

i have no definitive proof or sources that prove wilson's innocence, no more than u have any proof or sources that prove his guilt. only a few ppl know wat really happened there and they are in no position to impose judgement on this case. u show at best absolute ignorance and at worst absolute disregard and disrespect for how the criminal justice system works.

 

[M O L K O]

The thief was a criminal, even unarmed the cop wouldn't know. If he felt his life was in immediate danger it is ok. I mean it isn't ok someone died, no matter race or age, but the cop wanted to go back to his family as much as the kid wanted to do whatever he wanted. I feel the cop is fine with no chargers, maybe a recap of police classes but he shot because the kid reached for something, not a weapon since he was unarmed. I understand everyone sees differently and this is my view. Please don't bash me because I don't agree with you.

I just want to clarify that mike brown was 100+ feet away from darren when shot, so there was no way for him to grab the gun
Sources are abundunt but here's one from the wall street journal stating there was no sign of struggle:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/inde...truggle-in-michael-browns-shooting-1408381747
and more on the distance between the two and how there was no way he could have 'grabbed the gun'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...killed-148-feet-away-from-Darren-Wilson-s-SUV

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I'm a bit hesitant to reply to you as you seem to be set in stone however I notice many lurkers here so here is why race is still relevant and how
"I don't see color!?!?!?" Arguments are mute..very mute
http://wretchedoftheearth.tumblr.co...riginal-arguments-about-racism-let-me-know-if

two wrongs dont make a right, but i see u pull urself down to the same depths as the kkk and neo nazis.

i have no definitive proof or sources that prove wilson's innocence, no more than u have any proof or sources that prove his guilt. only a few ppl know wat really happened there and they are in no position to impose judgement on this case. u show at best absolute ignorance and at worst absolute disregard and disrespect for how the criminal justice system works.

Because defending a murder =/= defending the victim. And I've given you mounds of proof and sources so I don't understand your point.

 

[KarlaKGB]

I just want to clarify that mike brown was 100+ feet away from darren when shot, so there was no way for him to grab the gun

Because defending a murder =/= defending the victim. And I've given you mounds of proof and sources so I don't understand your point.

distance is irrelevant if brown is charging at wilson and closing that distance

do ur mounds of proof include anything that can conclusively prove that wilson shot at a fleeing brown, or that he executed a surrendering brown? or is it just more eyewitness testimony? if so, how can u say that ur eyewitness testimony absolutely believable?

i still dont understand why u bring the kkk into this. r u saying that because the kkk support wilson, that it means wilson is a kkk sympathiser???

 

[Cory]

distance is irrelevant if brown is charging at wilson and closing that distance

do ur mounds of proof include anything that can conclusively prove that wilson shot at a fleeing brown, or that he executed a surrendering brown? or is it just more eyewitness testimony? if so, how can u say that ur eyewitness testimony absolutely believable?

i still dont understand why u bring the kkk into this. r u saying that because the kkk support wilson, that it means wilson is a kkk sympathiser???

Woodrow wilson was in the KKK

 

[M O L K O]

distance is irrelevant if brown is charging at wilson and closing that distance

do ur mounds of proof include anything that can conclusively prove that wilson shot at a fleeing brown, or that he executed a surrendering brown? or is it just more eyewitness testimony? if so, how can u say that ur eyewitness testimony absolutely believable?

i still dont understand why u bring the kkk into this. r u saying that because the kkk support wilson, that it means wilson is a kkk sympathiser???

There were 60 eyewitness Karla, 60, but the prosecutor only chose one of those. Which is very unusual espcialy an a high profile case. I would add my sources but at this point, with you it doesn't seem to matter. Lets just blindly follow the police as they shoot the youth

and no..he's not a kkk sympathiser but a member himself under the KKK Ghoul Squad but ok

 

[Cory]

There were 60 eyewitness Karla, 60, but the prosecutor only chose one of those. Which is very unusual espcialy an a high profile case. I would add my sources but at this point, with you it doesn't seem to matter. Lets just blindly follow the police as they shoot the youth

and no..he's not a kkk sympathiser but a member himself under the KKK Ghoul Squad but ok

Prosecutors will do anything to win they are terrible people

 

[oath2order]

There were 60 eyewitness Karla, 60, but the prosecutor only chose one of those. Which is very unusual espcialy an a high profile case. I would add my sources but at this point, with you it doesn't seem to matter. Lets just blindly follow the police as they shoot the youth

and no..he's not a kkk sympathiser but a member himself under the KKK Ghoul Squad but ok

Well of course the prosecutor is going to choose the witness that supports his case.

Do you not understand how prosecution worjs.

Furthermore, didn't nunerous witnesses change testimony? And wasn't quite a bit conflicting?

 

[KarlaKGB]

Again you treat your sources as gospel while you question the validity of sources that don't agree with ur narrative, how can u claim to be objective?

Anonymous link Wilson to the kkk and it becomes indisputable fact?

 

[M O L K O]

Well of course the prosecutor is going to choose the witness that supports his case.

Do you not understand how prosecution worjs.

Furthermore, didn't nunerous witnesses change testimony? And wasn't quite a bit conflicting?

I do, and you don't choose just one. And yes you're absoutely correct as they didn't interview the eyewitness until five days after the incident.

Again you treat your sources as gospel while you question the validity of sources that don't agree with ur narrative, how can u claim to be objective?

Anonymous link Wilson to the kkk and it becomes indisputable fact?

You haven't given me one link that doesn't agree with my narrative so how can I?
I never treated my sources as gospel, I treat them as sources.

and idk mate, you tell me.
If you want to cut out anon (I do understand why you would, I'll give you that much) There is proof by the KKK themselves of actions and effers of KKK in ferguson, more specifically in the police workforce.

 

[Cory]

The KKK now accepts black people I heard

 

[oath2order]

You do choose just one if they suppottethe caee and they the only one to support it.

And I mean didnt the witnesses change testiminy after their initial interview

 

[KarlaKGB]

There were 60 eyewitness Karla, 60, but the prosecutor only chose one of those.

it looks like u reject the testimony of that one eyewitness ur talking about there, witness #10 if im not mistaken