Ferguson: Your Thoughts.
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hmm, I'm unsure. If you're really interested I have no problems looking that up tonight when I'm done with coursework. (my apologizes its close to final) and not if you're the prosecutor..the prosecutor is the one that tries to prove someone guilty you do realize that right?
I don't, I think #10's is just as important, however they didn't even hear one or two others besides the one that fit Darren's narrative. That's why I talk a bit more about the other eyewitness accounts because they never saw the light of day.
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Yes. And if only one witness is saying they're guilty, then thats the one you go with
yea it's this new weird sanction of KKK thats supposed to go in effect. It started in November if I believe
because its a big issue with protests still going on. I think the one in australia is today and the one in japan is on the 5th.
Exactly! and thats not what they did. They used one that made Darren look innocent. The only eyewitness that said mike brown 'charged' at darren wilson was #10.
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Really? Trial like what? I'd love to read about it
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Literally why are there protests in Japan and Australia
Give me a ****in break
Give me a ****in break
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Exactly! and thats not what they did. They used one that made Darren look innocent. The only eyewitness that said mike brown 'charged' at darren wilson was #10.
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Really? Trial like what? I'd love to read about it
Http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/
Enjoy the read. Quite interesting
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yes thats what i wass talkin about
In the United States, the accused are innocent until proven guilty.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370526-grand-jury-volume-13.html
transcript from court on the 16th october, particularly interesting day where the witnesses seem to contradict each other.
so wat about ur assertion that
i would read the entire transcript, its laughable how unreliable those witnesses are, and its laughable how many of them didnt actually see what they claim to have seen. read all of that and then tell me that u want to convict and put a man away for 20+ years over evidence like that?
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this stuff gets even better.
transcript from court on the 16th october, particularly interesting day where the witnesses seem to contradict each other.
so wat about ur assertion that
i would read the entire transcript, its laughable how unreliable those witnesses are, and its laughable how many of them didnt actually see what they claim to have seen. read all of that and then tell me that u want to convict and put a man away for 20+ years over evidence like that?
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this stuff gets even better.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370526-grand-jury-volume-13.html
transcript from court on the 16th october, particularly interesting day where the witnesses seem to contradict each other.
so wat about ur assertion that
i would read the entire transcript, its laughable how unreliable those witnesses are, and its laughable how many of them didnt actually see what they claim to have seen. read all of that and then tell me that u want to convict and put a man away for 20+ years over evidence like that?
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this stuff gets even better.
I will give you that. Based on the cherry picking of witnesses, the lack of an actual credible autopsy, and the inconsistency of evidence I wouldn't of indicted him either.
And I never said the witnesses were the gospel or the all mighty truth. I am starting to doubt if you have read any of the evidence or sources I have put out. I have very rarely mentioned the eye-witnesses. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else?
Not to mention there are no photos of Mike Brown's body due to the 'battery being low' at the time.
I also want to point out the assistant wanted to make sure that the grand jury knew that 'force is able to be used in an arrest' in a document from the missouri police. This document was outlawed in 1985.
I know you are not one for sources but here's a video of someone who has been in the business longer than we both have been alive talking about is on MSNBC.
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/shocking-mistake-in-darren-wilson-grand-jury-364273731666
You may not agree about mike browns death, thats fine. However if you believe this case wasn't severely mishandled I don't know what to tell you.
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idk ask them, apparently they care more about whats going on in our country than you do
and secondly that's sad but not surprising. I'll be surprised if he even gets a court date
im not one for sources? ive read your sources and none of them come close to justifying indicting wilson? i didnt at any point say that this shooting was handled perfectly. i agree with calls to make all police officers wear cameras. i dont even know where ur trying to move the thread direction to now, but u seem to enjoy strawmanning me and putting words into my mouth. the whole time ive been talking about how the decision not to indict wilson was correct, dont try and spin that into me saying that mistakes werent made and no lessons need to be learned.
The only thing I've said is that you're not one for sources. I don't know where this is coming from but ok. Honestly I'm glad that you do think cameras should be on cops/lessons should be learned/mistakes were made. Claps 4 u. Idk how im strawmanning you but ok with that. If you're feeling this way lets not debate anymore because clearly both of our views aren't going to change kbye
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Aren't chokeholds illegal for officers to use, or am I misremembering?
Or is it a state-by-state law and New York is exempt?
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I see both sides here. I understand why people say Wilson was in his right to shoot Brown and why people say Wilson committed an act of murder. I'm fairly neutral on this topic, but I do have this to say:
Police officers are trained for these situations. Shooting Brown several times is excessive against an unarmed person. If you have to shoot someone, you usually shoot to disable, not to kill. He overreacted and that ended Brown's life. Officers have a plethora of options available to them. Why immediately go for the option of emptying your entire clip into someone? Even if Brown did charge Wilson, isn't one shot enough?
Also, about the riots and looters: I don't condone any of this. Parties responsible for the looting of stores and harming of other people need to be arrested.
Police officers are trained for these situations. Shooting Brown several times is excessive against an unarmed person. If you have to shoot someone, you usually shoot to disable, not to kill. He overreacted and that ended Brown's life. Officers have a plethora of options available to them. Why immediately go for the option of emptying your entire clip into someone? Even if Brown did charge Wilson, isn't one shot enough?
Also, about the riots and looters: I don't condone any of this. Parties responsible for the looting of stores and harming of other people need to be arrested.
Anyone who buys heavily into either side of this conflict is a fool. The dearth of evidence and the media frenzy have made it impossible for anyone to know with any certainty the true nature of the events. I'm not touching this ****storm with a ten-foot pole.
Some police officers act like thugs and some witnesses lie their asses off. I haven't learned anything new from this.
Some police officers act like thugs and some witnesses lie their asses off. I haven't learned anything new from this.
Yeah, I think it goes without saying that people who are taking advantage of this entire situation deserve to be punished on their own.
I just wish the media didn't focus exclusively on them, but that's the problem with it. Nobody wants to see peaceful protesters, they all want to see the people who are making complete jackasses out of themselves and ruining their towns. Whatever pulls in ratings.
I think its honestly why I just get all my news online now. From multiple sources if its a serious enough issue.
I just wish the media didn't focus exclusively on them, but that's the problem with it. Nobody wants to see peaceful protesters, they all want to see the people who are making complete jackasses out of themselves and ruining their towns. Whatever pulls in ratings.
I think its honestly why I just get all my news online now. From multiple sources if its a serious enough issue.
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