We All Fall Down

[Bulerias]

...Justice has been served.

 

[UltraByte]

...Justice has been served.

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[Propaganda Man]

Shakespeare is not trash or outdated. Classics can basically never be outdated. Have you ever even read a Shakespeare, because really, it seems as though you just say stuff you don't even know anything about.

You're wrong.




Shakespeare represents things today's modern society can't really connect with. Love at first sight, arranged marrigages, fixed social classes, expectations of women....

While some are able to imagine themselves in such a world when reading Shakespeare it seems most don't understand how someone could commit suicide over a guy who she met a few days ago.

Shakespeare in that sense is outdated. Is it still a classic? Yes. But classics can be outdated.

It seems you are arguing for the sake of arguing or you just don't know what you're talking about. Either way, chill.

 

[Propaganda Man]

I'm sorry, but Koehler's opinion was trash. He had nothing behind his opinion. Ah, and once again your assumptions take over. I have based my opinion on Shakespeare from my Shakespeare experiences. Now tell me why Koehler's opinion was an acceptable or reasonable opinion for this discussion.

It doesn't matter what Koehler based his opinion on, its still his opinion an you completely disregarded it. You have no idea how completely ignorant you sound. Plays don't count on Shakespeare "experiences." Shakespeare was a genius, how dare you call his work a bunch of garbage. He has sold millions even after hes been dead. Hes done more then you could ever possibly accomplish.

You can't hide behind an opinion solely because it's an opinion.

People attack opinions because of how it's presented, what is used to support it, and various other reasons. Regardless of your own opinion, if it supported well you should at least not attack it. Otherwise, you have every right to.

 

[SL92]

Seems like I've missed a lot, noobness from two people in the same thread and so many different conversations I've lost count. Quotey quotey:

@ Gengar - I definitely plan on reading it during the summer... I'm currently tackling a few Agatha Christie books and a book by Doris Lessing, plus all the homework I've got... so Les Miserables has to wait a little. tongue.gif

Agatha Christie = Murder She Wrote?

I really like the 'classical' love stories from the Shakespearean era... romantic, noble, subtle, yet enjoyable.

By subtle you mean all the main characters die in the end for love? lolol I know it was only one play.
@ Earlier comments on Shakespeare: I think Shakespeare's work still relates to modern times, not that they have to to be great works of literature.

Normal people don't read those types of books.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA You commenting on what normal people do. And you're still wrong.

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

And, Shadow, I've read to Kill A Mockinbird. Not even comparable with Les Miserables, I guess it wasn't so bad though. A bit dull, but definately classic.

I never read Les Miserables, I'll have to look at it next time I'm in Coles (bookstore).

@Bul: BANHAMMER'D!

@Everyone who commented on the Inheritance "trilogy": The books are by no means original, but they're still a good read for fantasy lovers.

 

[Propaganda Man]

How dare you accept Koehler's opinion. It was literally *CEN-2.0-SORD*. "LoTR + Star Wars = Inheritance" That is complete *CEN-2.6-SORD*. Anyone even a 10 year old would be able to realize how wrong that is. And stay out of this, obviously you know nothing about those series, which is sad.

Like I said before its the principle that counts. You came and lectured us about flaming people and then you call Koehler's opinion *CEN-2.0-SORD*. You should just leave. Your worse then Snoop. Who cares if I don't know about the series, and how is it sad that i haven't read it? Were not even talking about the series right now. Its an opinion, respect it and you might receive respect back.

Calling an opinion *CEN-2.0-SORD* is not a flame because you aren't insulting the poster.

 

[Propaganda Man]

Because Star Wars, LoTR, and Inheritance are brilliant series. Also, let Snoop have his opinions just as you have let Koehler have his. Cleary, if you had any sense of what's right or ethics you would realize that you must be ******** to argue about something you have no prior knowledge about.

WE AREN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT YOU AND YOUR ******** SERIES! The only one that is truly brilliant would be the LOTR. If so many people here have said they hated it, its clearly not "brilliant." Snoop was just putting one sentence post like 4 times in a row like usual. And am I the only one saying how stupid Snoops post are? NO! Please your post are just as bad as Snoops, please read them before you add it.

Chill out.

You aren't loosing anything by him posting 4 times in a row. As you said it is small so no need to complain about it to the extreme that you are.

 

[Propaganda Man]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

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How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason.

 

[Propaganda Man]

I'm not homosexual. Also, I'm glad I don't think prejudicely often and do not enter conversations that I know nothing about (enter them seriously). Okay, how about you calm down, because this is an internet forum, no need to get angry or hyped up about that. And once again, I'm sure you haven't read/watched the Naruto series and gotten into it enough to take it seriously, but that's okay.

I've watched just about every episode of Naruto until I caught up. I haven't watched it since.

Code Geass is an extremely better anime.

With that said, you obviously are infuriating people with your posts and though their reasons for attacking and yelling at you are questionable you need to rethink how you approach things. You really are both to blame.

 

[TwilightKing]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason. [/quote]
I'm doubting someone can read 100 pages a day, spend that amount of time on forums, go to school during the day, do homework, and write reviews everyday.

 

[Propaganda Man]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason.

I'm doubting someone can read 100 pages a day, spend that amount of time on forums, go to school during the day, do homework, and write reviews everyday.


[/quote]
Cool.




It's very possible for fast readers though. I myself couldn't because I take things slow. There are people who can read through 100 pages in an hour or less. While I'm not saying Snoop can it is still something worth mentioning.

Also, aren't you allowed to read at school or am I mistaken?

 

[TwilightKing]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason.

I'm doubting someone can read 100 pages a day, spend that amount of time on forums, go to school during the day, do homework, and write reviews everyday.

Cool.




It's very possible for fast readers though. I myself couldn't because I take things slow. There are people who can read through 100 pages in an hour or less. While I'm not saying Snoop can it is still something worth mentioning.

Also, aren't you allowed to read at school or am I mistaken? [/quote]
I'm a few years older than Snoop, but you usually don't have time in school at all, but you never know, may get a few minutes here and there if you're in an easy enough grade. Certainly not for me though. :/

 

[Propaganda Man]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason.

I'm doubting someone can read 100 pages a day, spend that amount of time on forums, go to school during the day, do homework, and write reviews everyday.

Cool.




It's very possible for fast readers though. I myself couldn't because I take things slow. There are people who can read through 100 pages in an hour or less. While I'm not saying Snoop can it is still something worth mentioning.

Also, aren't you allowed to read at school or am I mistaken?

I'm a few years older than Snoop, but you usually don't have time in school at all, but you never know, may get a few minutes here and there if you're in an easy enough grade. Certainly not for me though. :/ [/quote]
He may also have study hall as well. Each county has it's own way of doing things.

 

[Bulerias]

@ Gengar - I definitely plan on reading it during the summer... I'm currently tackling a few Agatha Christie books and a book by Doris Lessing, plus all the homework I've got... so Les Miserables has to wait a little. tongue.gif

Agatha Christie = Murder She Wrote?

I really like the 'classical' love stories from the Shakespearean era... romantic, noble, subtle, yet enjoyable.

By subtle you mean all the main characters die in the end for love? lolol I know it was only one play.

@Bul: BANHAMMER'D! [/quote]
Agatha Christie = And Then There Were None, Murder on the Orient Express, etc

Hahaha @ the subtle comment.




: )

 

[TwilightKing]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason.

I'm doubting someone can read 100 pages a day, spend that amount of time on forums, go to school during the day, do homework, and write reviews everyday.

Cool.




It's very possible for fast readers though. I myself couldn't because I take things slow. There are people who can read through 100 pages in an hour or less. While I'm not saying Snoop can it is still something worth mentioning.

Also, aren't you allowed to read at school or am I mistaken?

I'm a few years older than Snoop, but you usually don't have time in school at all, but you never know, may get a few minutes here and there if you're in an easy enough grade. Certainly not for me though. :/

He may also have study hall as well. Each county has it's own way of doing things. [/quote]
He lives very close to me and are also part of similar school districts


Same Province in Canada

 

[Propaganda Man]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason.

I'm doubting someone can read 100 pages a day, spend that amount of time on forums, go to school during the day, do homework, and write reviews everyday.

Cool.




It's very possible for fast readers though. I myself couldn't because I take things slow. There are people who can read through 100 pages in an hour or less. While I'm not saying Snoop can it is still something worth mentioning.

Also, aren't you allowed to read at school or am I mistaken?

I'm a few years older than Snoop, but you usually don't have time in school at all, but you never know, may get a few minutes here and there if you're in an easy enough grade. Certainly not for me though. :/

He may also have study hall as well. Each county has it's own way of doing things.

He lives very close to me and are also part of similar school districts


Same Province in Canada [/quote]
Then he reads before school starts in school




I really can't speak for him because I don't know how he finds the time. Though, I never have to do homework.

 

[SL92]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason. [/quote]
Okay, the books he read are 35-70 pages long. Those are some damn long books.

Also, I doubt anyone believes anyone who's in school, constantly on the web, and a rather avid gamer can possibly have the time to read that much, so he's either lying or reading picture books, most likely both.

 

[TwilightKing]

He's counting picture books.

Most of the books I read are long.
In the past month, I've read 42 books. =)

LOL, LOL, and LOL. CONTRADICTION!, and that's impossible. You said you can read 50 pages a day, which I doubt highly anyway. There are 30 days in a month. The books you read, on average, then, are 35 pages long, if we take everything you said as the truth. You really gotta stop being a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing noob on these forums.

How many movies have you seen in which the characters fall in love at first sight? Hell, not even 10 Things I Hate About You had that and it was based off Taming of the Shrew.

I believe he said 50-100 pages. You might want to mention that instead of taking the lower number for whatever reason.

I'm doubting someone can read 100 pages a day, spend that amount of time on forums, go to school during the day, do homework, and write reviews everyday.

Cool.




It's very possible for fast readers though. I myself couldn't because I take things slow. There are people who can read through 100 pages in an hour or less. While I'm not saying Snoop can it is still something worth mentioning.

Also, aren't you allowed to read at school or am I mistaken?

I'm a few years older than Snoop, but you usually don't have time in school at all, but you never know, may get a few minutes here and there if you're in an easy enough grade. Certainly not for me though. :/

He may also have study hall as well. Each county has it's own way of doing things.

He lives very close to me and are also part of similar school districts


Same Province in Canada

Then he reads before school starts in school




I really can't speak for him because I don't know how he finds the time. Though, I never have to do homework. [/quote]
Hahaha, who knows, but I'm thinking there's some truth stretching going on ;P All depends on the person i suppose.

 

[Bulerias]

The only time I have to read is between 12 AM and 2 AM, and I don't even play games often anymore...

 

[Micah]

I actually think the Inheritance Trilogy (Eragon, Eldest) by Christopher Paolini is pretty good. Eldest is one of my favorite books. (No, I did not see Eragon the movie. I heard it ruined the book.)

As for younger readers/people to lazy to read a 650 page book, I recall really liking the Charlie Bones series back in fifth or sixth grade...

I agree, the Inheritance series is an awesome series. The first book was great, and the second book was even better. I don't think I will be able to wait until September, when Brisingr comes out. To be honest, in my opinion, the Inheritance series is a lot better than the Harry Potter series (and I've read all 7 books). Harry Potter was just...too kidlike. But, Inheritance it just seems like a more mature story.

@Koehler: Don't even make me rant on wrong you are, and why the hell would you mix Lord of the Rings and Star Wars to get Inheritance. Obviously you're way too stubborn to actually read the books (watch movies) and understand the series. I know everything about all 6 Star Wars movies, everything about the 2 Inheritance books, and I pretty much know everything about the 3 Lord of the Rings movies. And in no way does LoTR + Star Wars = Inheritance.

First of all, the only similarity between LoTR and Inheritance is that it is set in an age of Dragons, Elves, Dwarves, etc. The 2 are so different, they aren't even comparable. And Star Wars does not match either of them. The only reason I feel you put Star Wars into your quote was because you were acknowledging it and the rest of those series on how amazing they are. Those 3 series, in my opinion, are all in the top 5 stories of all time.


@The rest of you: I love how you can't accept the fact that someone can have an opinion and that your opinion isn't a fact. We're discussing opinions, and I doubt that any of you, including me, can determine, for a fact, what the best series of all time is. Also, I just bolded the "in my opinion" parts of my rant beacuse it's my opinion, not a fact, and I don't think it's a fact. I'm throwing my opinion out there. Oh, and sorry for being completely off-topic .



And, just to throw this out there, Shakespeare is outdated and just a bunch of trash.

Haven't you noticed the plot similarities between The Inheritance Series and Star Wars? First there's the whole uncle being killed because of the nephew. Then there's the Dragon Riders (parralleling Jedis) and the betrayal (*coughAnakincough*). Not to mention the name similarities between the Inheritance characters and Lotr characters. I could go on and on about how the plots are pretty much the same...

Just remember we all have opinions. I may not like them but that doesn't mean I think you're stupid for reading them.