We All Fall Down

[Bulerias]

No, I haven't read it, but 'one of the best books ever'? That's like saying Harry Potter is a 'great literary achievement'... it's not... I mean, I love Harry Potter and it's one of my favorite series' out there. But by no means is it one of the greatest series of books ever written... they may be your 'favorite' books, but 'greatest books'? No way in hell.

There are so many better books out there -- mostly classics -- that it's foolish to rank a book like this with the greats.

Me saying it's one of the best books I've ever read is like you saying flamenco is the best genre of music.

Hah, not quite. My musical vocabulary is vast, as I've listened to pieces from more genres than you've ever heard of. Your knowledge of both books and music, however, is... lacking, to put it lightly.

Stop trying, man. Please.

@ Gengar - I definitely plan on reading it during the summer... I'm currently tackling a few Agatha Christie books and a book by Doris Lessing, plus all the homework I've got... so Les Miserables has to wait a little.

 

[Bulerias]

You do know that Uglies and Twilight are girls books right?

I read everything.
So far Uglies is actually pretty good.
I'm only reading it because one of my friends said it's one of the best books she has ever read.

Its about who get makeovers when they turn 16. Or get turned into "Blondes" or whatever.

Twilight is about love between a vampire and a girl.

I was about to bring what Mino said back up, but it would just get deleted.

So I'm assuming you read the book to know this?

...I actually read the Twilight series. The first book was kinda nice fluff. By the second book, I realized that I didn't care about any of the characters; the vampire was too perfect, the girl was whiny, and the love triangle was cringe-worthy.

I recall reading the "Uglies" series. Eh....to me it was nonsense about being fine with who you are. If I want my science fiction fix, I'll go read or watch something better.

Those are both "girls books", which, despite being a girl, I found boring. Maybe part of it was my cynicism about romantic books. (They either don't catch my intrest....or...I find them too sappy. Maybe it's because I can't exactly relate to the situation...yeah. That's pretty much it.) Actually, the "romantic stories" I like are either tragic (Princess Tutu), or barely even a romance at all...not from the "LOL kissing and hot stuff like that" standpoint. Y'know what. I like the "pure of heart" relationships in fairy tales, and my personal favorite, the tale of "affection" in Ghost in the Shell 2nd Gig. (See the quotes in my sig for details)

I guess I have weird tastes, because as whenever I read something, and it turns to sex, (or extremely hot lack thereof, as in Twilight) its status goes down in my mind. But let's not get into that.

Unresolved romantic tension and pure-of-heart relationships FTW. :yes:


...This was extremely awkward to write. >_<

Totally agree with you on romantic novels... oftentimes they drift into sexual territory, and though some sexual tension between characters is necessary, it goes beyond that most of the time.

I really like the 'classical' love stories from the Shakespearean era... romantic, noble, subtle, yet enjoyable.

 

[Propaganda Man]

No, I haven't read it, but 'one of the best books ever'? That's like saying Harry Potter is a 'great literary achievement'... it's not... I mean, I love Harry Potter and it's one of my favorite series' out there. But by no means is it one of the greatest series of books ever written... they may be your 'favorite' books, but 'greatest books'? No way in hell.

There are so many better books out there -- mostly classics -- that it's foolish to rank a book like this with the greats.

About damn time you agree with that.

 

[Propaganda Man]

Anyways, as I've been saying for a year read Wizards' First Rule. It has wizards, sex, torture, dragons, battles, and just about anything else you can think of. It's being made into a T.V. show for the Fall which is to air on ABC by the director of Spiderman.

Read it D:

 

[Snoopdogga]

No, I haven't read it, but 'one of the best books ever'?

 

[Snoopdogga]

You do know that Uglies and Twilight are girls books right?

I read everything.
So far Uglies is actually pretty good.
I'm only reading it because one of my friends said it's one of the best books she has ever read.

Its about who get makeovers when they turn 16. Or get turned into "Blondes" or whatever.

Twilight is about love between a vampire and a girl.

I was about to bring what Mino said back up, but it would just get deleted.

So I'm assuming you read the book to know this?

...I actually read the Twilight series. The first book was kinda nice fluff. By the second book, I realized that I didn't care about any of the characters; the vampire was too perfect, the girl was whiny, and the love triangle was cringe-worthy.

I recall reading the "Uglies" series. Eh....to me it was nonsense about being fine with who you are. If I want my science fiction fix, I'll go read or watch something better.

Those are both "girls books", which, despite being a girl, I found boring. Maybe part of it was my cynicism about romantic books. (They either don't catch my intrest....or...I find them too sappy. Maybe it's because I can't exactly relate to the situation...yeah. That's pretty much it.) Actually, the "romantic stories" I like are either tragic (Princess Tutu), or barely even a romance at all...not from the "LOL kissing and hot stuff like that" standpoint. Y'know what. I like the "pure of heart" relationships in fairy tales, and my personal favorite, the tale of "affection" in Ghost in the Shell 2nd Gig. (See the quotes in my sig for details)

I guess I have weird tastes, because as whenever I read something, and it turns to sex, (or extremely hot lack thereof, as in Twilight) its status goes down in my mind. But let's not get into that.

Unresolved romantic tension and pure-of-heart relationships FTW. :yes:


...This was extremely awkward to write. >_<

Totally agree with you on romantic novels... oftentimes they drift into sexual territory, and though some sexual tension between characters is necessary, it goes beyond that most of the time.

I really like the 'classical' love stories from the Shakespearean era... romantic, noble, subtle, yet enjoyable.

Normal people don't read those types of books.

 

[Micah]

No, I haven't read it, but 'one of the best books ever'?

 

[Propaganda Man]

I hate Shakespeare. It's not because of the way he writes but what he writes. He feels the need not to describe things and have people just fall in love in less than an hour.

I recently read through Taming of the Shrew....that *CEN-2.0-SORD* is *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing sexist.

 

[Snoopdogga]

No, I haven't read it, but 'one of the best books ever'?

 

[Snoopdogga]

I hate Shakespeare. It's not because of the way he writes but what he writes. He feels the need not to describe things and have people just fall in love in less than an hour.

I recently read through Taming of the Shrew....that *CEN-2.0-SORD* is *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing sexist.

At least somebody agrees with me.

 

[Fabioisonfire]

Sarah is *CEN-3.0-SORD*INNN OBSESSED with Twilight, holy *CEN-2.0-SORD*.

 

[Tyler]

You do know that Uglies and Twilight are s books right?

I read everything.
So far Uglies is actually pretty good.
I'm only reading it because one of my friends said it's one of the best books she has ever read.

Its about who get makeovers when they turn 16. Or get turned into "Blondes" or whatever.

Twilight is about love between a vampire and a .

I was about to bring what Mino said back up, but it would just get deleted.

So I'm assuming you read the book to know this?

...I actually read the Twilight series. The first book was kinda nice fluff. By the second book, I realized that I didn't care about any of the characters; the vampire was too perfect, the was whiny, and the love triangle was cringe-worthy.

I recall reading the "Uglies" series. Eh....to me it was nonsense about being fine with who you are. If I want my science fiction fix, I'll go read or watch something better.

Those are both "girls books", which, despite being a , I found boring. Maybe part of it was my cynicism about romantic books. (They either don't catch my intrest....or...I find them too sappy. Maybe it's because I can't exactly relate to the situation...yeah. That's pretty much it.) Actually, the "romantic stories" I like are either tragic (Princess Tutu), or barely even a romance at all...not from the "LOL kissing and hot stuff like that" standpoint. Y'know what. I like the "pure of heart" relationships in fairy tales, and my personal favorite, the tale of "affection" in Ghost in the Shell 2nd Gig. (See the quotes in my sig for details)

I guess I have weird tastes, because as whenever I read something, and it turns to , (or extremely hot lack thereof, as in Twilight) its status goes down in my mind. But let's not get into that.

Unresolved romantic tension and pure-of-heart relationships FTW. :yes:


...This was extremely awkward to write. >_<

Totally agree with you on romantic novels... oftentimes they drift into ual territory, and though some ual tension between characters is necessary, it goes beyond that most of the time.

I really like the 'classical' love stories from the Shakespearean era... romantic, noble, subtle, yet enjoyable.

Normal people don't read those types of books.

*is speechless* ...The hell is wrong with you?

Just because your y books are your cup of tea, doesn't mean that other genres are bad.

 

[Sporge27]

wow, again pure opinion is utterly destroyed on the forums




Now I never read these books but honestly a series that does as well as harry potter is almost guaranteed to be considered a classic by the time you are fifty if there are no more made which there really shouldn't be...

Now Shakespeare is rather well written but the problem nowadays is that it doesn't always translate well into our time period. It is old, and suffers some from it. Still great but you really have to be able to take it in context.

And again it is really hard to compare books across genres just like with music, if you consider "classics" a genre, I disagree because each still would fall into its own category, although sadly fiction is just to huge of a category, and I think it requires a little more breaking down... anyways what I am trying to say is that some books are incomparable just as you can't really compare the Beatles to Beethoven....or flamenco....

regardless of all this I really wish people would try and be a little more nice about opinions, feel free to offer your own but please respect others. If you haven't really read the books you can't very well offer a fully developed opinion of them, and while you can say what you have heard of them you shouldn't go and turn it into a personal attack. This happens all the time here and I just don't like it.

 

[Tyler]

wow, again pure opinion is utterly destroyed on the forums




Now I never read these books but honestly a series that does as well as harry potter is almost guaranteed to be considered a classic by the time you are fifty if there are no more made which there really shouldn't be...

Now Shakespeare is rather well written but the problem nowadays is that it doesn't always translate well into our time period. It is old, and suffers some from it. Still great but you really have to be able to take it in context.

And again it is really hard to compare books across genres just like with music, if you consider "classics" a genre, I disagree because each still would fall into its own category, although sadly fiction is just to huge of a category, and I think it requires a little more breaking down... anyways what I am trying to say is that some books are incomparable just as you can't really compare the Beatles to Beethoven....or flamenco....

regardless of all this I really wish people would try and be a little more nice about opinions, feel free to offer your own but please respect others. If you haven't really read the books you can't very well offer a fully developed opinion of them, and while you can say what you have heard of them you shouldn't go and turn it into a personal attack. This happens all the time here and I just don't like it.

I agree about the classical genre.

Also fiction shouldn't be considered a genre because it is just a broad umbrella of everything. Fiction is a great way to separate non-fiction from stories for little kids who are first learning how to browse the library, however it doesn't suffice for the type of genre with us being teenagers in middle school and high school.

 

[JJH]

You do know that Uglies and Twilight are girls books right?

I read everything.
So far Uglies is actually pretty good.
I'm only reading it because one of my friends said it's one of the best books she has ever read.

Its about who get makeovers when they turn 16. Or get turned into "Blondes" or whatever.

Twilight is about love between a vampire and a girl.

I was about to bring what Mino said back up, but it would just get deleted.

So I'm assuming you read the book to know this?

...I actually read the Twilight series. The first book was kinda nice fluff. By the second book, I realized that I didn't care about any of the characters; the vampire was too perfect, the girl was whiny, and the love triangle was cringe-worthy.

I recall reading the "Uglies" series. Eh....to me it was nonsense about being fine with who you are. If I want my science fiction fix, I'll go read or watch something better.

Those are both "girls books", which, despite being a girl, I found boring. Maybe part of it was my cynicism about romantic books. (They either don't catch my intrest....or...I find them too sappy. Maybe it's because I can't exactly relate to the situation...yeah. That's pretty much it.) Actually, the "romantic stories" I like are either tragic (Princess Tutu), or barely even a romance at all...not from the "LOL kissing and hot stuff like that" standpoint. Y'know what. I like the "pure of heart" relationships in fairy tales, and my personal favorite, the tale of "affection" in Ghost in the Shell 2nd Gig. (See the quotes in my sig for details)

I guess I have weird tastes, because as whenever I read something, and it turns to sex, (or extremely hot lack thereof, as in Twilight) its status goes down in my mind. But let's not get into that.

Unresolved romantic tension and pure-of-heart relationships FTW. :yes:


...This was extremely awkward to write. >_<

Totally agree with you on romantic novels... oftentimes they drift into sexual territory, and though some sexual tension between characters is necessary, it goes beyond that most of the time.

I really like the 'classical' love stories from the Shakespearean era... romantic, noble, subtle, yet enjoyable.

Normal people don't read those types of books.

Hah. That's good. Snoop describing the actions and likes/dislikes of normal people. As for myself, I basically think what Sporge said; Shakespeare is good, but the old language makes it harder to read/comprehend. I really haven't read much of his writing, though.

And of those fourty-two books you've read this month, how many did you actually read? There's a difference between "visually reading" and "mentally reading" as one of my teachers said.

 

[UltraByte]

Twilight just seems like a waste of time, imo. I hate vampire love stories that appeal only to females.

Honestly, I think the best book I've ever read was 1984 by George Orwell. I love that book so much.

 

[ƒish]

You do know that Uglies and Twilight are girls books right?

I read everything.
So far Uglies is actually pretty good.
I'm only reading it because one of my friends said it's one of the best books she has ever read.

HORMONE'D.

 

[ƒish]

I actually think the Inheritance Trilogy (Eragon, Eldest) by Christopher Paolini is pretty good. Eldest is one of my favorite books. (No, I did not see Eragon the movie. I heard it ruined the book.)

As for younger readers/people to lazy to read a 650 page book, I recall really liking the Charlie Bones series back in fifth or sixth grade...

Oh *CEN-3.0-SORD* no. The first book was decent at best, and it was all downhill from there, the writer just mimics Tolkien, and fantasizes about elves throughout the whole thing. It's horrid.

 

[Propaganda Man]

Hah. That's good. Snoop describing the actions and likes/dislikes of normal people. As for myself, I basically think what Sporge said; Shakespeare is good, but the old language makes it harder to read/comprehend. I really haven't read much of his writing, though.

And of those fourty-two books you've read this month, how many did you actually read? There's a difference between "visually reading" and "mentally reading" as one of my teachers said.

Because Snoop obviosuly didn't agree with me when I said the problem with Shakespeare now a days is the story itself.

 

[MGMT]

You do know that Uglies and Twilight are girls books right?

I read everything.
So far Uglies is actually pretty good.
I'm only reading it because one of my friends said it's one of the best books she has ever read.

Its about who get makeovers when they turn 16. Or get turned into "Blondes" or whatever.

Twilight is about love between a vampire and a girl.

I was about to bring what Mino said back up, but it would just get deleted.

So I'm assuming you read the book to know this?

...I actually read the Twilight series. The first book was kinda nice fluff. By the second book, I realized that I didn't care about any of the characters; the vampire was too perfect, the girl was whiny, and the love triangle was cringe-worthy.

I recall reading the "Uglies" series. Eh....to me it was nonsense about being fine with who you are. If I want my science fiction fix, I'll go read or watch something better.

Those are both "girls books", which, despite being a girl, I found boring. Maybe part of it was my cynicism about romantic books. (They either don't catch my intrest....or...I find them too sappy. Maybe it's because I can't exactly relate to the situation...yeah. That's pretty much it.) Actually, the "romantic stories" I like are either tragic (Princess Tutu), or barely even a romance at all...not from the "LOL kissing and hot stuff like that" standpoint. Y'know what. I like the "pure of heart" relationships in fairy tales, and my personal favorite, the tale of "affection" in Ghost in the Shell 2nd Gig. (See the quotes in my sig for details)

I guess I have weird tastes, because as whenever I read something, and it turns to sex, (or extremely hot lack thereof, as in Twilight) its status goes down in my mind. But let's not get into that.

Unresolved romantic tension and pure-of-heart relationships FTW. :yes:


...This was extremely awkward to write. >_<

Totally agree with you on romantic novels... oftentimes they drift into sexual territory, and though some sexual tension between characters is necessary, it goes beyond that most of the time.

I really like the 'classical' love stories from the Shakespearean era... romantic, noble, subtle, yet enjoyable.

Normal people don't read those types of books.

Well normal people are *CEN-3.0-SORD*ing ignorant and not able to comprehend the intelligence put in the book. Those are some damn good books.