Ferguson: Your Thoughts.

[LambdaDelta]

only if theyre taken by a white person, right??

human lives matter

ALL human lives

happy now?

(even though I'd be more than happy to see certain scum purged from the Earth)

 

[Jarrad]

o truuu I don't get why after he got punched he didn't just drive away or something since you're supposed to retreat :0

Cops do a lot of things which aren't in the books. I.E. arresting a black woman on the basis of her being a "prostitute" because she was seen kissing her white boyfriend/husband.

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no, ur thinking of a civilian self defence encounter where u have a duty to retreat and not to pursue. wilson was a police officer, its his job to pursue and apprehend the suspect.

But instead of apprehending someone, he murdered someone.

 

[M O L K O]

only if theyre taken by a white person, right??

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so ur narrative was that brown was minding his own business when wilson just filled him with lead?

My narrative is that D*rren saw him jaywalking and found the perfect opportunity to use his force.
For more information see page 9 and make sure to read the sources.

 

[LambdaDelta]

no, ur thinking of a civilian self defence encounter where u have a duty to retreat and not to pursue. wilson was a police officer, its his job to pursue and apprehend the suspect.

"apprehend"

he sure did that well, didn't he?

 

[KarlaKGB]

To bad the actual threat level Wilson had on all accounts is minimal compared to the article you linked.

Also, just because fatal shots CAN not be instantly as such shouldn't excuse them being used except in desperate situations.

on all accounts? ok so that includes the narrative that brown punched wilson in his car? and that he charged at wilson? how can u say that the threat level was minimal? do u believe that an unarmed person cannot pose a dangerous or lethal threat to life? if wilson "played fair" and engaged in hand to hand combat and lost, do u not think brown would have taken control of his gun? would u rather there be a dead cop?

 

[Jeremy]

Fyi, when you fire a gun at someone, it's to kill. Shooting to injure doesn't exist in reality.

 

[KarlaKGB]

Fyi, when you fire a gun, it's to kill someone. Shooting to injure doesn't exist in reality.

actually, u shoot to end the threat, with the understanding that it will likely involve killing them

 

[M O L K O]

on all accounts? ok so that includes the narrative that brown punched wilson in his car? and that he charged at wilson? how can u say that the threat level was minimal? do u believe that an unarmed person cannot pose a dangerous or lethal threat to life? if wilson "played fair" and engaged in hand to hand combat and lost, do u not think brown would have taken control of his gun? would u rather there be a dead cop?

Because of D*rren's 'injuries' that have been proving by real medical experts, not someone who doesn't have a damn medical degree

and yes I do, unless he knows some martial art form or some ****

he's an officer, why didn't he have a taser for that situation..oh yea because it was 'uncomfortable'

 

[Jarrad]

on all accounts? ok so that includes the narrative that brown punched wilson in his car? and that he charged at wilson? how can u say that the threat level was minimal? do u believe that an unarmed person cannot pose a dangerous or lethal threat to life? if wilson "played fair" and engaged in hand to hand combat and lost, do u not think brown would have taken control of his gun? would u rather there be a dead cop?

a dead cop which some say was corrupt with power
or
a young boy that ruthlessly stole cigarettes and showed aggressive resistance to said cop

 

[LambdaDelta]

on all accounts? ok so that includes the narrative that brown punched wilson in his car? and that he charged at wilson? how can u say that the threat level was minimal? do u believe that an unarmed person cannot pose a dangerous or lethal threat to life? if wilson "played fair" and engaged in hand to hand combat and lost, do u not think brown would have taken control of his gun? would u rather there be a dead cop?

oh no, he punched him

big ****ing deal


even if he had to shoot, he had no excuse to shoot to kill

or you know, he could of used a taser or something

but he can't, because he's too much of a baby to carry one

 

[KarlaKGB]

Because of D*rren's 'injuries' that have been proving by real medical experts, not someone who doesn't have a damn medical degree

and yes I do, unless he knows some martial art form or some ****

he's an officer, why didn't he have a taser for that situation..oh yea because it was 'uncomfortable'

my understanding is, that the person without the medical degree was the person who performed the private autopsy on brown.

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oh no, he punched him

big ****ing deal


even if he had to shoot, he had no excuse to shoot to kill

or you know, he could of carried a taser or something

but he can't, because he's too much of a baby to carry one

read the above. theres no such thing as shooting to kill. u shoot to stop. it shows how much understanding of force on force encounters u have. do u believe that a gunshot will blow a person 20ft backwards?

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source: http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/health/ferguson-michael-brown-pathologist-credentials/index.html

 

[M O L K O]

my understanding is, that the person without the medical degree was the person who performed the private autopsy on brown.

exactly, do you see the problem here?

not to mention brown's body was left for dead for 4.5 hours.
Also I will provide proof on request if you care to know. Will be more than willing if it means you'll be more open to the truth.

 

[LambdaDelta]

theres not supposed to be such thing as shooting to kill. ur meant to shoot to stop.

fixed that for you

 

[M O L K O]

In fact..lemme go ahead

http://pathologyblawg.com/pathology...ls-makes-national-news-michael-brown-autopsy/

After Mr. Parcells described himself as a “forensic pathologist assistant and medical investigator”, Dr. Mitchell says:

That is a degree that does not exist in my knowledge, except in the mind of Shawn Parcells…You cannot claim the title, because it is a formal, licensable position. You can assist somebody; in this way I can say, for instance, I have paid my taxes, so I am an assistant President of the United States…He has none of the qualifications that are required. He has experience as a morgue technician, somebody who would move bodies around, clean up after an autopsy…

little down in the text

To his credit, Mr. Parcells admitted he is not certified as a pathologist assistant, but rather he is qualified due to his experience working under Dr. Young.

To this Dr. Young responded:

Shawn hung out at the Jackson County Medical Examiner’s office but was not trained by me.”…. “He has been representing himself in a way that is not appropriate by giving forensic pathology opinions when he is not qualified to do so.

and

The post alleges, among other things, that it was Shawn Parcells alone, and not Mr. Parcells and Dr. Baden together, who performed the second autopsy of Michael Brown.

The post cites some seeming inconsistencies in the timeline of events as the basis for the allegation. Specifically, an attorney for the Brown family stated on Friday August 15th that the second autopsy had already been performed, while the New York Times reported Dr. Baden did not arrive in St. Louis until Sunday August 17th.

The author then postulates Mr. Parcells performed the autopsy solo and that Dr. Baden was brought in later to review Mr. Parcells’ work and, without ever examining Mr. Brown’s body, “lend his credibility toward it.”

second reading if you'd like to educate further
http://theconservativetreehouse.com...-shawn-parcells-to-be-exposed-tonight-on-cnn/

 

[Jarrad]

Cops always have the decision to use deadly force, regardless or not whether it's necessary.
Where was wilson's baton? his pepper spray? We shouldn't be arguing whether it was justifiable to shoot, even if it was to immobilize him (which realistically speaking is bogus.) When you aim a gun at another being and pull the trigger, you know that the odds of them dying are high. Wilson took extreme, deadly and inappropriate force to stop Brown. Would this case still yield the same outcome if Wilson had instead of shooting him, drove his car towards Brown and ran him over? Probably not, because we all know that being shot at has a higher percentage of killing us in comparison to being ran over, regardless of how barbaric it looks and sounds.

 

[LambdaDelta]

I

honestly never knew of that, though I can't say I'm terribly surprised

of course, I've never thought of that comparison either

 

[KarlaKGB]

exactly, do you see the problem here?

Parcells became an overnight media star in August when he assisted in an autopsy commissioned by Brown's family.

so wat ur telling me is, browns family commissioned this sham doctor to help with a sham autopsy on brown in order to exonerate wilson???

not to mention brown's body was left for dead for 4.5 hours.

after which he came back to life?

 

[ThomasNLD]

So it's basically just "white people suck 2k14" and the white peoplr can't defend.

Okay.

This isn't the tone for the debate, but if you want to solve this problem at its roots, a deeper investigation and analysis of the current equality level is the way to go. Thing is though, there will never be an honest selfreflective respons from those who play a keyrole in the ongoing inequal politics. It is usually the next generation coming to new realisations, free of responsibility. But speaking up from a keyplayer is what could actually make some direct impact.

But this Is only part of it.
Point is though that incidents happen in a certain context. This shouldn't always change the way the incident is dealed with from a legal perspective, but it shouldn't be overlooked from a dealing with the emotional aftermath situation.

The emotional outrage of the protesters obviously can influence the protest. But its more then that. If you don't feel heard or taken seriously, if you time after time see similar incidents without any change, it will create more agressive protest. If a pebble in the river won't change the course of it enough, you will throw a boulder in if the stakes are important enough.

Look outward, don't take it all to personal. By being honest about such issues, you don't condemn yourself just because in some way you share a bond with those in the wrong. You just show that as a group within a society you are able to look critical at yourself to preserve the integrity of it. Even when in the case of black/white speaking in terms of groups is probably more felt by the group experiencing the short end of the stick. Because when you see to much people getting that stick, it strengthens the feeling of connection. It becomes more of your reality.

I hope its clear this isn't all aimed at you, its feelings I have about this in general. This discussion is good, but for it to be productive, it would have to be had in a honest way at the highest level. Time for the leaders by example to shine!
Ofcourse ever since my 12th birthday I realised this will never happen. People are just to weak and indecent.

 

[oath2order]

My narrative is that D*rren saw him jaywalking and found the perfect opportunity to use his force.
For more information see page 9 and make sure to read the sources.

Why are you calling him "D*rren"?

 

[M O L K O]

so wat ur telling me is, browns family commissioned this sham doctor to help with a sham autopsy on brown in order to exonerate wilson???

after which he came back to life?

I'm guess you didn't read the article

Fast forward to August 2014. After 18 year old Michael Brown was killed by Officer Darren Wilson, St. Louis County Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Mary Case performed an autopsy. The family (or its attorney) then requested a second, private autopsy.

I was not the least bit surprised to see the family had asked Dr. Baden to perform the second autopsy, as there are very few forensic pathologists in this day and age who have the visibility and name recognition Dr. Baden has.

But I was very surprised to see Shawn Parcells standing on Dr. Baden’s right during the press conference in which the results of the second autopsy were revealed.

and no, he's still dead...why would you even mention that?
Its ok to think somethings right later to believe it is wrong, but keeping on to ignorant facts is not a good thing and is in fact dangerous. This is not just to you, but for everyone.

If anyone has questions and/or concerns and wants to educate themselves I will gladly link your the masterpost and sources.
Stay informed and safe everyone!

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Why are you calling him "D*rren"?

He doesn't deserve his name to be known.