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Do you hate the USA?
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Alolan_Apples
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I'm getting sick of people who pull the race card just because they don't agree with others. How is he racist?
You really need evidence?
Alolan_Apples
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I would need it, other than the crazy stuff he said. Saying bad things makes you bad in general (including Trump), but what beliefs does he have that makes him a racist?
Unless you're trying to sell religion, why wouldn't you try and provide evidence to those who ask for it?
In the 1970s, Trump was sued for housing discrimination and ended up paying a large settlement. He has many policy proposals like the deportation force and expanding stop-and-frisk which disproportionately harm minorities. So it's not just him saying racist stuff which he does plenty of as well.
I was just saying in a sarcastic way that there is plenty of evidence of him being racist and that people who have been paying attention should know that already.
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nintendofan85
Good grief.
Yep, he was sued in 1973, but there were incidents of it dating back to 1963, and reports as late as 1982.
Are you really claiming that people aren't born into poverty in socialist countries? Socialist countries still have the rich, the middle class, and the poor. Unless you're going to regulate who can and can't have children, then there are going to be kids born into poverty.
As for climbing the social ladder, there are countries where it is hard to do (like France - a country with socialist economic systems). America does have an even playing field, the only thing that would prevent a person from succeeding is them either giving up, or their competition doing it better. Competition is needed in any economical system for businesses and workers to thrive.
If socialism is the way to go, then it would have helped the US already. But don't forget that it's because of socialist ideals of the government interfering with businesses that students are now struggling with massive debt, and that there was a global market crash in 2008. Socialist ideals have only created more poverty in the US, and if current socialists get their way (for example, with the $15 minimum wage) then there will be less people with a job, and thus more poverty.
There is no full out capitalism in the US because the government already has adopted socialist ideals, and we can plainly see the effect that it has had on the country's populace. Socialism is cancer.
Socialism and Capitalism need to be in balance, you can easily go too far either way and the results of both situations are terrible. Without Socialism the terrible circumstances that you can see for example in Les Mis?rables would still be a reality. On the other hand without Capitalism, well, just look at the Soviet Union. History has proven time and time again that this delicate balance needs to be maintained, I personally think that things aren't really balanced right now either but tbh I don't really like sharing my political views so I'll just leave it at this.
As for the USA I have found throughout my travels that people are people all over the world. You have nice people and not so nice people everywhere, I'll never hate an entire country.
As for the USA I have found throughout my travels that people are people all over the world. You have nice people and not so nice people everywhere, I'll never hate an entire country.
I don't like the US, I feel as though they are much too much of a capitalist soceity, it is as if they have not yet realized that taxes actually gives back to the people.
I don't like amerikans, the ones I've talked to are waay to cocky to be pleasant, but I'm sure that there are good 'muricans too.
I don't like amerikans, the ones I've talked to are waay to cocky to be pleasant, but I'm sure that there are good 'muricans too.
SugardewVillage
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Well, obviously people are born into poverty in socialist countries, I think what he's trying to say is that it's easier/ higher chance to get out of poverty. Stop exaggerating things.
Alolan_Apples
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It's pretty funny that Trump did that, coming from New York (a state that never supported government-sanctioned racial discrimination). And yes, I can see how some of the policies he supports can hit minorities hard, but it doesn't matter what race people are. Everyone in our country is a human, and all humans should be treated equally based on the work they do, the crimes they commit, and the help they given us.
You said some of his policies he supports can hit minorities hard and it doesn't matter what race people are in the same sentence...
I live in Canada, and while I don't particularly enjoy it (mostly because I consider it to be very isolated, especially where I live), I think I'm luckier and safer to live here than in the United States. But I definitely don't hate it, and would actually like to live there, I think North East states and the West Coast states seem really nice to live in, but then again I wouldn't totally know because I've only ever visited there for holidays.
