What Are Your Political Views?

[ThomasNLD]

Hello endless loops of pointless pandering in an Animal Crossing forum. We have risen to pinnacles no other forum could ever hope to copy or achieve with such progressive debate that I've never before seen.

I agree that for truly informed people, this debate will give little new information to consider. However, I do believe there are plenty of people who can learn more from this debate. Just like a person can learn from voicing their opinions and having people disagree and voice a counterargument.
I don`t believe it to be pointless therefore. I find it interesting to see how younger people think about this topic, also people from abroad, fellow TBT-ers I read stuff daily from, etc.
Ofcourse this doesn`t give a true picture for an entire demographic or even paint a picture of a person, but I enjoy it none the less. Not just viewpoints, but especially the manner you bring them across say a lot about a person.
As long as its a respectful debate and no one is forced to read or particpate, whats the harm?

We can`t all endlessly name our fave tune or villager either right? (Talking about endless).

 

[Jaebeommie]

Not Republican. That's for sure.
California is a Democratic state but I live in an area where it's primarily Republicans, and it's annoying as heck because the Republicans here are so...I don't know. Difficult.

 

[Sanaki]

ZanessaGaily is the president

its official

 

[f11]

Yep. We got red pizzas and blue pizzas. Red pizzas are spicy, but blue pizzas taste like peppermint.

Anyway, we should go back on topic. Politics is fine to talk about as long as you don't do the following:

1. Attack other users for having different beliefs.
2. Arguing hard, which may lead to a forum war.
3. Talking extreme about politics.
4. Obsessing over politics.

wot I like spicy

 

[emmatheweirdo]

I'm actually going to post my political opinions since I haven't yet cx

So I'm a free thinker. Always have been. I'm not one for people being forced to live their lives based on how others think they should. It's no surprise that I'm against strict laws for abortion, gay marriage, and marijuana. Honestly, my stance on it is to let people do what ever the frick they want. I mean, dude. Is it gonna hurt you if your lesbian neighbors get married? Answer: NO. Is it gonna hurt you if some kid next door is smoking pot? Answer, once again, is no. And to be honest, it won't hurt you if someone has an abortion either. Now, don't get me wrong with that last one. Of course "killing babies" is wrong, but honestly that's not what Democrats stand for. I know many people who think that and it's sickening. Like what human being on Earth unless they were complete psychos would WANT to do that? 50% of the nation are not psychos ok. I just believe that it is the woman's right to choose. I believe that if we ban all abortion, women are still going to do it. It'll be done incorrectly and will be very harmful. It'll do more harm than good. It's all the women's decision so we shouldn't force women to do what she wants to do. You don't see congress trying to make laws about "male part enhancers" (Keepin' it kid friendly as possible) You all know what I mean. The men in congress think they get to decided what's right and wrong for women and I honestly think that's frickin' stupid. I mean, heck, some guys don't even know or want to know the stuff that goes on with women. How dare they think they can say what women can and can't do... Here's where my feminist side comes out... Men should have no say in the debate on women's health. Period. No pun intended. Put yourself in the place of the woman. How would you like it if some women came along and told you what you could and couldn't do with your body, men? I bet you wouldn't like it. I think the put yourself in the place of the other person applies in many instances. For example, the debate on gay marriage. How would you like it if someone told you that you couldn't get married? What if being homosexual was the norm and you were the outcast? You wouldn't like it. Something I'm seriously against, though is hate. That is why I refuse to eat at Chick-fil-a. The company donates money to organizations that are actual hate groups. Leaders of those groups have come out and said that they believe that gays and lesbians should be killed or imprisoned just for being gay. That is NOT something I want my money going towards. I'm a strong believer in love is love. And that whole "ruining the sanctity of marriage" crap? First of all, besides the Bible where does it say anything about the sanctity of marriage? and so what if the Bible says something about it? Was this nation based off of the Bible? NO. Tell me where in the constitution does it talk about the sanctity of marriage? And before people start going off on me about "Christian nation" stuff because people tell me that all the time, it's not true. Yeah, the constitution it says we are "endowed by our creator" but what does that mean? God? To Christians, yeah. To Atheists? No. It could be their parents or some giant muffin in the sky, idk. It doesn't matter. This country was not created with one religion in mind. Religious freedom. That's the whole reason the early settlers even came here. If you look at a bunch of things being debated right now and look at the constitution, I don't understand why there's even a debate. I really don't understand why there's a debate over weed. Like really? Who cares what other people do? It's their life. Sure, make it illegal to drive high I guess, just like driving drunk. But alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana is. Sure, if you smoke enough of it, it'll kill your brain cells. Big woop. If someone wants to do that, let them. It's their life. It being illegal is the stupidest thing on Earth to me. Take a look at the prohibition of alcohol. People still drank. Weed is illegal. People still smoke it. It's not really doing anything good making it illegal. Just making it easier for people to put harmful chemicals into it. If it was regulated, not only would it be safer, but it'd help the economy. Just take a look at Colorado. That's pretty much where I stand when it comes to social issues. Economic issues, I'm not as passionate about tbh. I just believe that raising the minimum wage is a HUGE benefit for the nation. Tax cuts on the wealthy are not. I thought that was obvious. Also, while I will agree that there are a lot of government programs, they're very necessary in today's economy. I've lived on food stamps. If it wasn't for that program, I could have starved to death almost by now, who knows. I know we'd be homeless without my dad's disability and social security checks. Welfare isn't about people living on the government. I'm sure there are plenty of people who do, but getting rid of those problems will hurt so many families and people. The people who do just rely on it and are "lazy" will find other methods, it's what they do. But the families that have both parents working 2 or 3 full time jobs and can barely pay their bills or feed their kids will suffer. My family is living on the edge of poverty and without welfare programs, we could be homeless at any moment. I need the Democrats to win for the sake of keeping programs like food stamps. I vote Democrat because I always feel like they believe what I believe. If a republican came around that I agreed 100% with, yeah, I'd vote for him. I'm not for one specific party in general just because the name. I study, I do my research and learn about each candidate. One thing I'll never do is put democracy to waste.

I doubt anyone will even read this, but if you do, just know I love you okay. Even if you are a Republican Feel free to debate with me, I love debating c:

 

[Keyblade]

Republican, definitely. I feel like one of the only Republicans in Texas, even though we're getting another republican governor.

texas is primarily republicans, silly.
i'm from texas, too.
it's just that most young people are democrats haha.

 

[Princess]

what a ****ing disaster

 

[M O L K O]

Did my comment touch a nerve? What you've said in your comment is enough to prove my point. The world's population is going up, regardless of what will happen. That's why there needs to be something in place that will monitor it, which may be in the form of not providing treatment for these beings that are going to have short painful lives. I am a demigod, didn't you know? In all seriousness, I'm just giving you my personal opinion. I strongly believe that we're a generation of beings that are incredibly greedy and relentless when it comes to the preservation of the human race. We take, we do not give.

Your assumption is hideously incorrect. I'm British, as previously stated. You know of me? I'm flattered. Why are you here, Trundle?

I read this and suddenly I grew a neck beard a fedora pls help im scared

anyway heres what I am

- if don't involve u directly or indirectly, mind your business
- see step 1

 

[KarlaKGB]

Hey Jarrad, if you want to go back to the dark ages so much, feel free to join Islamic State

 

[Alienfish]

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- Then why should everyone and their dog care for how they want it. Seeing as easily as it is to get pregnant it's the woman's decision unless you are a stable couple of course then you could probably have a debate unless she made clear from the start she doesn't want a child.


- Invalid arguments here, I don't see spies torture as a valid reason to compare it to abortion, it's a whole different matter but alright. And yes, that's why you shouldn't work in those parts of the doctor profession if you can't do it.



Well if you would decline her to remove it, yes then it's none of your business since then you would probably want to keep it too much.

 

[Brackets]

I think every pro-lifer should be obligated to adopt a child, seeing as they're so insistent on bringing unwanted babies into the world

 

[Alienfish]

I think every pro-lifer should be obligated to adopt a child, seeing as they're so insistent on bringing unwanted babies into the world

Good idea, but then they probably have 14 children of their own already so I don't know...

 

[Zanessa]

I think every pro-lifer should be obligated to adopt a child, seeing as they're so insistent on bringing unwanted babies into the world

Especially the men.

 

[Alienfish]

Especially the men.

Yeah... And we will see how 'powerful' their little sausage is.

 

[ThomasNLD]

- Then why should everyone and their dog care for how they want it. Seeing as easily as it is to get pregnant it's the woman's decision unless you are a stable couple of course then you could probably have a debate unless she made clear from the start she doesn't want a child.
- Invalid arguments here, I don't see spies torture as a valid reason to compare it to abortion, it's a whole different matter but alright. And yes, that's why you shouldn't work in those parts of the doctor profession if you can't do it.
Well if you would decline her to remove it, yes then it's none of your business since then you would probably want to keep it too much.

When there is no stable relationship, there is no reason to discuss the fathers position in the decision regardless if you think he should have a say or not. Therefore my point was directed at situations where the father is involved.

The comparison served to show that in many professions there are parts of the job some people refuse to do or have strong objections because of ethical reasons for example. Relieving them from certain procedures doesn't only help those professionals but also the involved patients. I disagree with you that
when you are a doctor specialized in this area, you are obligated to also do abortions. But yeah, I can understand you feel different about it. I just think it would be a waste of a otherwise good doctor.

Just to be clear, I would leave the decision by my partner, where it should be. I merely stated that as a father and memberof the family, that when there are circumstances around the health of the baby or the mother, I would deserve to be heard in my opinion. Probably in a good relationship this would happen anyways, but sometimes i'm just surprised at how easily the position of the father is disregarded.

 

[Alienfish]

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Well... To be honest it depends how biased the 'father' is in the case. If they are oh I always wanted a child and doesn't think then he has no use in the saying. If both want it, yes then there room for a discussion but if the mother doesn't in the end... Move on for heaven's sake.

Well there is a difference relieving someone from that and from another work. Just saying. And for the waste why did they even want to become a doctor if they know they won't be able to do it(no matter for what reasons). It's like.. become something else then.

You have a good point but most often here the father tends to be very active in their opinions and taking use of the mother way too much therefore it's much much more of a problem.

 

[ThomasNLD]

snip.

I agree with you that when thats the opinion of the father, it wouldn`t be very productive to discuss the matter as adults, even though the woman is present every step of the way, meaning that she is able to use birthcontrol methods.
At the same time though, there are women using pregnancy as a tool to force their man to stay with them. As horrible and wrong as this is, this shouldn`t take anything away from the basic right for the woman to decide.. I guess I want to say is that you can`t base legislation on those abusing the system. If you did that, you would have to take rights away from all people, whom in majority consist of responsible adults.

There is a huge difference in delivering babies, perforning all sorts of surgery in this area and abortion. Most doctors will have no objections to abortion based on their scientific background and opinion that when abortion is performed within a certain amount of weeks it isn't considered ending a life. However, there can also be religious doctors for example whose beliefs forbid them to do such things. This doesnt mean they can`t be great doctors. Its only a small part from their profession. Obviously when your belief restricts you, you shouldnt work in an abortion clinic, but why should the same count for a hospital? Good doctors are not easy to find.

Its a tough subject though. Its personal values and professional obligation.
Like doctors having a right to decline helping in executions in America or being involved in euthanasia cases in Holland.

I think some tasks within various professions are just to controversial to demand from the entire group of professionals.
But its difficult to define or draw a line between what you can and can`t expect. Atleast it is for me. I feel their should be room for personal values. Especially when there is no danger of the task at hand being done properly.
Its the flaw in my way of thinking. Its all open for debate. I believe the society in which you live decides what can be considered controversial enough. In the end in a democracy the population safeguard the body of thought. But this is very offtopic.

 

[Alienfish]

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Nothing is safe apart from abstaining sex completely, so you can't really blame responsibility too much here. When it's used to force someone to stay that is indeed a different matter, but shouldn't be reason for taking away abortion rights still.

Well to blame it on religion or some biased personal views shouldn't make you refuse. It is a profession and educated matter so either yes you should stay away from operating completely or be able to tell your private life apart from what you do at work. And if you are so concerned and stuck in your beliefs that it makes you do or don't stuff. Don't go refusing when they could have hired someone who would do that. And yes I can agree it can be hard sometime to find good doctors but if everyone refuses what is the use at all?

 

[ThomasNLD]

Thats just a thing we disagree on. I can't see private and professional life seperated on such controversial issues. I don't look at it in terms of blaming, but in terms of justifiable moral objections. In that sense I'm lucky to live in a country where the law supports this vision.

At the same time I can definetly respect your opinion. There is something to be said for demanding a professional attitude from professionals. When that is clear for everyone when they start theirstudies, no one can claim they didn't see it coming, even though laws and therefore procedures a professional must execute can change. Most discussions do not gravitate around right and wrong, but just different sides of a spectrum whereboth opinions are validated and grounded on a solid foundation.

In that sense cultural differences are applaudable and only lead to improvements when it comes to standard of life in the long run.

 

[Jarrad]

So getting rid of the small percentage of short lives that will waste resources is going to solve all our resource problems? "Monitoring" it isn't going to prevent us from running out.

I didn't say that. I said that there needs to be something in place to monitor it, which may be in the form of what I mentioned previously.

Of course it won't prevent us from running out of resources, but it would sure make a difference and possibly bring more serious methods of "monitoring" into light.