For one of us to be scum, the other would have to be. Not so much confirmed town, but confirmed to either be both scum or both town(or TP in Kat's case). But scum!Kat could have easily been lynched there(for claiming TP), and then I'd be next on the chopping block.
Mafia The Franchise Wars- Town & TP Win!
- Thread starter Damniel
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For one of us to be scum, the other would have to be. Not so much confirmed town, but confirmed to either be both scum or both town(or TP in Kat's case). But scum!Kat could have easily been lynched there(for claiming TP), and then I'd be next on the chopping block.
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Hi everyone, Bianca here! I am replacing toads!
I'm literally a newbie here so please don't be annoyed if I ask what this mean and what that means! this is my second game!
but anyhoo hello mafia and townies!
I'm literally a newbie here so please don't be annoyed if I ask what this mean and what that means! this is my second game!
but anyhoo hello mafia and townies!
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Unless there's a crazy conspiracy on their part, yes they're essentially confirmed
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Hi Kermit!
Sorry can I ask you something? Tell me If I am correct..
Null means we don't know their role?
Third Party is like a Survivor thing? Kat told me about it before where they need to survive is it the same?
Sorry can I ask you something? Tell me If I am correct..
Null means we don't know their role?
Third Party is like a Survivor thing? Kat told me about it before where they need to survive is it the same?
ah no that was a reads list so 1) it varies from person to person and 2) null means idk your alignment
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Sorry I meant I know that was your read. but I am unsure of what third party is and what do they do in the game..and null to me means you don't know yet..thats what I meant lol
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Welcome Bianca!
Kat is claiming to be a lyncher, which is a neutral role. Neutrals are not on the good team or the evil team; they have an independent win condition. She can win one of two ways: by either getting town to lynch Dolby, or by staying alive until the end of the game. There are lots of different potential third party roles, but that's the one we're dealing with in this game.
On that note...Kat, I have a question. Are neutral wincons here usually in conjunction with one team or another (aside from the joker for obvious reasons)? In other words, I'm kind of indirectly asking if you alone can win the game, and the other two teams lose, or if one of the teams AND you will win by the end.
Kat is claiming to be a lyncher, which is a neutral role. Neutrals are not on the good team or the evil team; they have an independent win condition. She can win one of two ways: by either getting town to lynch Dolby, or by staying alive until the end of the game. There are lots of different potential third party roles, but that's the one we're dealing with in this game.
On that note...Kat, I have a question. Are neutral wincons here usually in conjunction with one team or another (aside from the joker for obvious reasons)? In other words, I'm kind of indirectly asking if you alone can win the game, and the other two teams lose, or if one of the teams AND you will win by the end.
Uh in kat's case she's a lyncher and her target is Dolby so basically she wins if Dolby gets lynched; if Dolby dies another way then she becomes a survivor and she just needs to survive till endgame
also they don't count towards town numbers so if there's 2 town, 1 third party, 2 mafia left then mafia can just win
also they don't count towards town numbers so if there's 2 town, 1 third party, 2 mafia left then mafia can just win
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
ninja'd by the GM 
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Thanks Damniel! Okay..and I guess you will not tell us the win condition? so we are guessing their win condition also? okay
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Kat's wincon is to either get dolby lynched or to be alive at the end of the game (aka survivor). What I don't know is if that's an exclusive wincon (meaning she can singlehandedly win) or if it can be in conjunction with good or evil. TBT seems to follow the conjunction precedent from a quick examination.
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
So when Kat claimed, thats the truth? so let me get this straight, Kat will win the whole game if Dolby gets lynched? so mafia and town are both losers?? And why Dolby?? So if we don't want Kat to win, we have to make sure we do not lynch Dolby? (and why Dolby? is it random ?) sorry so many questions ...but you guys are great!! I am learning!!
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
What I said here ^
Also, how we know this is that Kat told us all Dolby's flavor text name, which she would have no way of knowing except if she got the info from her rolepm. It either means Kat and Dolby are maf on a team, or she's telling the truth. It's dolby because Damniel wanted it to be.
So yeah it's random.- - - Post Merge - - -
Oh and it's worthy of mention that Kat has stated she's following the survivor route wincon. She doesn't want to try and lynch dolby, and she felt it'd be better to claim neutral and win via the survivor wincon. But yeah, it'd be a bad idea to lynch dolby, because if he's the target of the lyncher, that confirms him as town. It'd make no sense for lyncher to target a mafia
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Huh? so if Dolby is not lynched but killed by mafia, kat is survivor and she just needs to survive?
yes, kat explained to me before that the third party is not affiliated with town or mafia, that i know (because of a experimental game I was planning lol)..Thanks!!
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What I said here ^
Also, how we know this is that Kat told us all Dolby's flavor text name, which she would have no way of knowing except if she got the info from her rolepm. It either means Kat and Dolby are maf on a team, or she's telling the truth. It's dolby because Damniel wanted it to be.
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Oh and it's worthy of mention that Kat has stated she's following the survivor route wincon. She doesn't want to try and lynch dolby, and she felt it'd be better to claim neutral and win via the survivor wincon. But yeah, it'd be a bad idea to lynch dolby, because if he's the target of the lyncher, that confirms him as town. It'd make no sense for lyncher to target a mafia
what is flavor text name lol?? (I know flavor text, kirby told me that lol but flavor text name?) and rolepm? I wish I could just private message and ask everyone about this ..Sorry!! but you have been patients so thanks!
Okay, so kat will follow survivor route ? And I get now that Kat could be telling the truth or both Kat and Dolby are maf (thanks for the info!!)..so when everybody said kat claimed, i could take it as is or something else...it's not like confirmed or something..got it!
I'm just going to say it again here that at the time I was null on aya. Yours and Cleb's pushes on her made me feel wary cos there was a possibility that aya was an easy target. It was a what if kinda situation, not a scum read or whatever.
Townreading Karen is ok, I understand the townvibes reasoning I could get behind that, but saying she was helpful was a bit weird, because at the time she wasn't exactly being helpful or anything. All I see was random posts. Just an observation.
Dolby and Kirby were playing similarly to SU mafia hence the townlean.
1. I know, I was ok with people townreading her, it's his reasoning that I found a tad weird while I was reading it.
3. As explained above, I was considering the possibility that Aya was town and was pushed as an easy target. I didn't really read so much into her RQS answer. There was a span of time of around 1 hour 30 minutes from the point of me replacing the game to reading the thread and Cleb/Aya situation and me making that post- as opposed to all of you who have been in this game for 40 hours or so. In my situation, I was more wary of Cleb and Ness and just wanted to let it be known. Aya was already sus anyway.
4. I understand how you believe Kat because you know what you are. But I don't. I was speaking from my perspective. At the time I have you as townlean so I was inclined to believe Kat's claim. What I meant at the end was, should you become sus to me later on, then I will consider the possibility of Kat/Dolby team. For now that is very unlikely.
I'm mafia to you either way? Seems like karma biting me back in the ass.
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@Kit are you also Kit on tbtmafia wiki? I tried googling but your profile didn't come up.
@Karen, what makes you so certain?
Now that I have calmed down I can certainly see why I'm a big red flag to most of you. It's just that most of you failed to notice the time frame between me replacing the game, reading up on the thread, and making my post. This will be the last time I'm saying this- that post was my thoughts as I was reading the thread. I did not in any way read into or analyse whatever was being said. Everything was just feelings-based- hence the no explanations.
The emotional post earlier was because of Dolby asking vig to shoot me. I've never had that situation happen to me before, especially caused by the one only post that I made. I will play more rationally going forward. Reads will be posted when I have more time to go back and reread everything but for now-
I still have Dolby and Kirby pegged as town because of their general scumhunting and similar playstyle to SU mafia. Also leaning town for Evan based on the helpfulness of his posts in terms of content and reasoning, I don't sense any pretense in them. Cleb is most probably town given that he was the one who highlighted Aya's RQS answer and pushed her for it the most.
If we're looking at a 3 team mafia, and one of them was Aya, there should be one experienced scum in the team.
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Dolby is claiming to be Microsoft.
And haha, it's ok! Glad we could help. There's a lot of info here to absorb as a replacement. Pro tip: If you wanna be able to quickly reference people's posts on here, you can go to the original post and click on the usernames in the player list. It'll take you right to all of their posts in the thread.
And haha, it's ok! Glad we could help. There's a lot of info here to absorb as a replacement. Pro tip: If you wanna be able to quickly reference people's posts on here, you can go to the original post and click on the usernames in the player list. It'll take you right to all of their posts in the thread.
