Mafia The Franchise Wars- Town & TP Win!

Dolby is claiming to be Microsoft.

And haha, it's ok! Glad we could help. There's a lot of info here to absorb as a replacement. Pro tip: If you wanna be able to quickly reference people's posts on here, you can go to the original post and click on the usernames in the player list. It'll take you right to all of their posts in the thread. :)

ok ill try to read them tomorrow...although guys i am going to be busy tomorrow so i wont post much tomorrow during day but at night. Thank you so much!! It is a lot of info and I am just wheeww!!! Ayaya this Ayaya that..so what is she? google but framer ? so is framer mafia or town? and what does framer do?
 
@Seroja, I think that you referenced Paper Mario mafia as a game where you acted emotional after being accused, can you link me to such posts ( though I may be misremembering the game that you referenced since you were N1ed then)

I'm just going to say it again here that at the time I was null on aya. Yours and Cleb's pushes on her made me feel wary cos there was a possibility that aya was an easy target. It was a what if kinda situation, not a scum read or whatever.
Ok cool, Ayaya's null, I still don't like that you didn't mention her, but I can see it with slight scumreading Cleb (at the time)

1. I know, I was ok with people townreading her, it's his reasoning that I found a tad weird while I was reading it.
You know, this is a fair point, but that's kinda hypocritical given my alignment's tied to Kat's, and you posted this
I still have Dolby and Kirby pegged as town because of their general scumhunting and similar playstyle to SU mafia.
Since it doesn't really capture why I'm town here

3. As explained above, I was considering the possibility that Aya was town and was pushed as an easy target. I didn't really read so much into her RQS answer. There was a span of time of around 1 hour 30 minutes from the point of me replacing the game to reading the thread and Cleb/Aya situation and me making that post- as opposed to all of you who have been in this game for 40 hours or so. In my situation, I was more wary of Cleb and Ness and just wanted to let it be known. Aya was already sus anyway.
A few things wrong here
Ayaya is definetely not as hard as a push from a maf perspective, as say, me. However
1. By this period of time, it was known that there was a general group of inactives who would be easy pushes and easier to distance from a mislynch (for example, me having Heyden go for a Kirby ML over Endless last game, due to it being easier to distance from)
2. In this post(not this subsection, the whole post), you shift maybe four times from having nulled and scumread Ayaya, with the same wording as you use in point four

4. I understand how you believe Kat because you know what you are. But I don't. I was speaking from my perspective. At the time I have you as townlean so I was inclined to believe Kat's claim. What I meant at the end was, should you become sus to me later on, then I will consider the possibility of Kat/Dolby team. For now that is very unlikely.


As of now, the most helpful thing that I could get from Seroja is a reads list sometime this night phase.

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Also, don't think that I got in that I misread in my original point 4
 
@Seroja, I think that you referenced Paper Mario mafia as a game where you acted emotional after being accused, can you link me to such posts ( though I may be misremembering the game that you referenced since you were N1ed then)

I mostly referenced that game to show that I'm not a saint as town. I do get emotional and sometimes my posts came off as strong. This situation is unprecedented. I've never been so sussed for one post before.

Ok cool, Ayaya's null, I still don't like that you didn't mention her, but I can see it with slight scumreading Cleb (at the time)

Ok fair

You know, this is a fair point, but that's kinda hypocritical given my alignment's tied to Kat's, and you posted this

Since it doesn't really capture why I'm town here

the difference is you were actually actively scumhunting and contributing to the discussions, while also giving me the same vibes as you did in SU mafia. Evan just said Karen was helpful which she wasn't.

A few things wrong here
Ayaya is definetely not as hard as a push from a maf perspective, as say, me. However
1. By this period of time, it was known that there was a general group of inactives who would be easy pushes and easier to distance from a mislynch (for example, me having Heyden go for a Kirby ML over Endless last game, due to it being easier to distance from)
2. In this post(not this subsection, the whole post), you shift maybe four times from having nulled and scumread Ayaya, with the same wording as you use in point four

but that was how I see it. it's like I can't explain my points without it being misunderstood by you. I'll try this way.

1. Aya didn't stand out to me as sus, she was null. I stand by what I said that I considered the possibility of Aya being town and was made an easy target.
2. She was already sus to a lot of people, not me. Yall have said everything about her. Since I didn't even have any opinion on her I just didn't say anything. So instead I let people know what I feel about Ness and Cleb.
3. I don't understand what you mean with point four.

As of now, the most helpful thing that I could get from Seroja is a reads list sometime this night phase.

Ok I'll work on a reads list but as usual that will require a lot of time. Just don't be hasty with me, allow me some room to breathe.
 
Point 4 was referencing that you used the same wording to say that you were sus of me, rather than me sussing Kat. It was me saying that I was interpreting it as you saying that you were sussing Ayaya rather than her being sussed by the whole thread, to tired to address the rest of this rn
 
Point 4 was referencing that you used the same wording to say that you were sus of me, rather than me sussing Kat. It was me saying that I was interpreting it as you saying that you were sussing Ayaya rather than her being sussed by the whole thread, to tired to address the rest of this rn

ok I understand now, thanks! you should probably rest tho, it's late.
 
@Bianca and Evam My wincon is not a me-win exclusive thing. If Dolby is lynched, I'm taken out of the game as if I'm killed, but the game keeps going. So I can win in conjuction with town and mafia. If I'm going by Surv wincon, then I can win with either as well (just gotta be alive at the end).
 
Why does everything interesting happen win I'm asleep? :(

I'll read up on this when I'm ready to. :)

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OMFG!!!!!

Ayaya was scum, yaaaasss QUEEN. Got em! XD
 
Can someone post a TL:DR of what happened last night/EoD phase and after that point?

The thing that sticks out like a sore thumb was Seroja's reaction to being questioned which comes off as over the top and used the excuse that she wasn't a custom to being sussed as town, lmfao, what?

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The emoji ruined TL : DR

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Guys I'm not sure if I have enough time to write my reads at all. It was a really busy day and right now I have even more stuff to do and it's already so late. I'll do what I can before EoN.
 
Bianca feels like town to me. Her asking a lot of newbie questions makes me feel like she's town, I think if she was mafia she would likely ask all these questions in the mafia chat imo.
 
Hey! I'm not going to be home until late tomorrow, but I will try and do something useful. Sorry I haven't been active today, I was out for the day and then I just watched the England Holland game.
 
Bianca feels like town to me. Her asking a lot of newbie questions makes me feel like she's town, I think if she was mafia she would likely ask all these questions in the mafia chat imo.

Well lol now i know that I can ask Damniel via private pm to ask him questions about stuff i dont understand so i dont necessarily have to ask a lot of questions in the general thread. (He pmed me about it--so sorry if i ask a lot qs..)..I'll pm Damniel for any questions. I just thought no pm means no pm for everybody lol..how are you Kirby? Sorry again for almost eliminating you last game lol!!
 
I feel like Kit is coasting along. Just posting when the thread is very active. Looking back as her passed games she usually posts a lot.

Seroja's post

omg dolby stop pls I wasn't throwing shade! I legit wasn't feeling comfy at that point of time! consider my position as someone who just freaking replaced in, and only read the thread once up to that point. At the time, everything to be said about aya was already addressed by a lot of people in thread, and also at the time I have no opinion whatsoever on Ayaya. She could be scummy whatever but I wasn't comfy with Cleb and Ness at the time (emphasis on AT THE TIME). ok, those were what I felt at that moment so I said it. It's really not that deep.

Really didn't like how this post was full of ate. So the only 2 posts that make me scumlean Seroja are the post avoiding Ayaya and that post I showed you.

Bianca- townlean I think if she was scum she wouldn't ask a lot of newbie questions in this thread and ask it in the scumchat to avoid getting attention on to her.

so these are my changes to my reads.

I can never seem to be able to read f11.
 
I'm just gonna say that I'm uncomfortable with a few things in Seroja's defense.
I mostly referenced that game to show that I'm not a saint as town. I do get emotional and sometimes my posts came off as strong. This situation is unprecedented. I've never been so sussed for one post before.
I'm honestly kinda not seeing this (though I don't have a the time to dive indepth into Seroja's posts in Paper Mario mafia). You never were voted at any point in said game, and you were killed N1 by the mafia. I did a quick skim of your posts that game, and you never seemed particularly emotional in a negative way at any point.

but that was how I see it. it's like I can't explain my points without it being misunderstood by you. I'll try this way.

1. Aya didn't stand out to me as sus, she was null. I stand by what I said that I considered the possibility of Aya being town and was made an easy target.
2. She was already sus to a lot of people, not me. Yall have said everything about her. Since I didn't even have any opinion on her I just didn't say anything. So instead I let people know what I feel about Ness and Cleb.
3. I don't understand what you mean with point four.
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When Seroja is defending herself here, she uses pretty much the same language to mean two different things(being that somebody was sus to her one time, then sus to the entire thread), which sort of feels like scum wiggling, though I'm pretty sure that she said that english wasn't her first language a long time ago, so it could be that. I mentioned that I was assuming that she meant the first way in #469, but I didn't take it to have much significance at the time

Town
Kat
Cleb
Kermit

Townleans (in order)
Kirby
Zendal
Ness
Kit(Reads on Kit and Kirby are highly dependant on Seroja flip, especially for the former)
Evan

Null
Bianca
Biscuit
Fireninja1

Scumleans
F11
Seroja


I'm somewhat torn about the ordering of my townleans. Kirby and Zendal imo are relatively clear (in the case of Kirby pending Seroja flip) but I'm unsure on how to place Kit, Ness, and Evan
 
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