Mafia The Franchise Wars- Town & TP Win!

[mogyay]

hellllo sorry for the slightly delayed start from me, i've still to read through the game (i'm on a family trip rn so activity might be so-so until the day after tomorrow when i'm home but i do have internet and a laptop so should be fine, just depends on what we're doing) but i'll read through it in the next few hours and post my initial thoughts soon i just wanted to drop by!

1. What are your preferred pronouns and timezone?
2. How do you react to people attacking you?
3. What will you be known for in this game?
4. What do you think the town to mafia to 3rd party ratio is?
5. Name the scum team, go.

1: she, gmt!
2: i'm a bit sensitive so usually i can get a bit defensive to attacks
3: i ALWAYS answer this the same but until i actually do it i will continue to say it: actually have accurate reads on people and positively contribute to the game
4: i'm not sure really, three scum and one 3rd party?
5. completely random but zendal, kat and cleb

 

[moonford]

Guys your attention on Ness can be potentially dangerous for us. I can see this as a way mafia could get him lynched and I also see why people are fixated on him right now, his posts are making me wary of him but he is coming across as aggressive which is Ness' playstyle.

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He's on null for me right now, in short.

 

[Kit]

I gotta agree with Zendel. From what I can recall this is how Ness normally plays.
Not saying he's null but I'm just saying to keep it in mind.

 

[moonford]

I gotta agree with Zendel. From what I can recall this is how Ness normally plays.
Not saying he's null but I'm just saying to keep it in mind.

I think he played exactly like that in Themeless mafia though, so that's why I'm so conflicted.

I'm definitely not town reading him, he hasn't done anything indicative of town really and I struggle to read him properly so I can never trust him.

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I think everyone should have a look at this:

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?416636-Themeless-Mafia-Mafia-Win!

I'm looking through it now to see if he's done anything that is scummy and contrasts with his usual scum play.

 

[Kirbystarship]

I'm null on Ness. I'm not sure what to make of his posts so far. Going to look as his scum games.

 

[N e s s]

I usually say something stupid that makes everyone suspicious of me anyway, this is nothing short of familiar to me Zendel.

 

[moonford]

I usually say something stupid that makes everyone suspicious of me anyway, this is nothing short of familiar to me Zendel.

Everybody in the mafia community is fully aware of that.

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Which is why I made the post in the first place by the way, stop being a silly goose.

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Kat are you AFK or are you lurking.

 

[f11]

Guys your attention on Ness can be potentially dangerous for us. I can see this as a way mafia could get him lynched and I also see why people are fixated on him right now, his posts are making me wary of him but he is coming across as aggressive which is Ness' playstyle.

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He's on null for me right now, in short.

Yeah but avoiding the problem isn't going to do anything either. No one has voted him and I think like 3 people are sus of him. I find this post of Zendels really weird as like a half defense of a possible scummate. I don't see it that way but I just think this is just a weird post for this timeframe of game.

 

[moonford]

Yeah but avoiding the problem isn't going to do anything either. No one has voted him and I think like 3 people are sus of him. I find this post of Zendels really weird as like a half defense of a possible scummate. I don't see it that way but I just think this is just a weird post for this timeframe of game.

Not saying we should avoid him I'm saying we should be careful, as soon as someone is seen as sus mafia will bounce all over them and push for a lynch, it happened far to often in the other game. It doesn't matter what point in the game it is, being careful is essential.

Your last two sentences don't make sense, you find it to be defensive of Ness but you don't see it in that way?

 

[N e s s]

Low key getting frustrated that I'm being seen as scum for "overreacting" but I'll refrain from saying anything dumb.
funny how when I'm scum nobody bats an eye yet as town I'm always scummy but w/e

I agree with F11 about ignoring me won't help either. I was thinking something like this earlier.

 

[Kirbystarship]

Ness doesn't seem that Aggressive when he's mafia. I'm using this game.
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?345532-TBT-Mafia-Tarot-DAY-3
I'm not using that discord game because most of the actions were in that chat. Don't know any others games Ness was scum beside the 2 games.

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so town lean based on meta.

 

[moonford]

Have to go now, Celebrity Big Brother is better than everything toodles!!!!!!!!!

 

[FireNinja1]

Ness doesn't seem that Aggressive when he's mafia. I'm using this game.
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?345532-TBT-Mafia-Tarot-DAY-3
I'm not using that discord game because most of the actions were in that chat. Don't know any others games Ness was scum beside the 2 games.

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so town lean based on meta.

Explain this please. A simple link to a game followed by "This makes me think N e s s is town" doesn't help me very much.

Have to go now, Celebrity Big Brother is better than everything toodles!!!!!!!!!

Have fun.

 

[Kirbystarship]

Explain this please. A simple link to a game followed by "This makes me think N e s s is town" doesn't help me very much.

Have fun.

I was just looking at his scum game.
I was just saying his meta seems to be town. I don't really have any good reasons to read him as town except for meta.

 

[amazonevan19]

No one has voted for Ness (or anyone for that matter) because we still have a lot of time left in the phase.

After skimming like a third of the Tarot and Themeless games I can tell you that Ness seems to be playing more like his usual townie self. When he was maf in both games (at least what I read), he was much less aggressive and instead tended to be more probing and terse. Maybe he became more aggressive later on, but if he usually plays aggressive, and is usually town when he does play aggressively, then Occam's Razor dictates he's probably town.

Null reading Ness for now after reading through those games. I may go back later and review the other posts I didn't read, but after checking up on his maf playstyle, I detect a big difference between what he did then and what he's doing now.

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Zendel lurking. I was at work so I didnt really have time to reply but I was keeping up w/ thread

Its been a while since Ive played maf with Ness so maybe my meta on him is prob off but being hot/cold in terms of his temper was a scumtell iirc. Though his recent posts w/ "its always when Im town that people fos me" sounded a lot like frusturated town. If it werent for that tho, I'd scumlean him with more confidence: I feel like he jumped on nothing, and the "Kat its been 10 minutes" felt random trying to pressure for such a small time gap.

@Ness
regarding the whole reaction thing Eh, I guess, though I agree this is getting us no where lol. Theres a difference between "scummy" and "scum" though. Saying someone is scum is a hella lot more confident than saying someone is scummy.

 

[N e s s]

@Kat I thought the "it's been 10 minutes" would be interpreted as a joke but okay.

Not going out be posting much for the next few hours, I'm in rehearsal for marching band.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Ness rn:

daily meme dosage

 

[moonford]

@ Kat

I thought you were going to be slacking in this game? Your posts pregame implied so, why the change?

It is appreciated a lot though! Just curious and I'm not throwing shade in case you think I am.

 

[Dolby]

Back home, I don't like how Ayaya has been abandoned, though that could easily be due to Ayaya simply not being here with Ness being active in the thread. Recent behavior gives me a lot more confidence in Kirby being town, which leaves me with to many townleans again.

On the other hand, I don't like Zendal's post here

Haven't read through the thread thoroughly but there are a few things I didn't like:

- Town read on Karen by Dolby, I feel like it's too early but it's just like Dolby to town read someone THIS early.

- Ayaya's mafia guesses had three of the most experienced players and while yes, sure, you may have just looked at the player list and went like "hey, they might be all scum together tee-hee" but those three people specifically out of everyone else is weird. You've also mentioned that you go after/ read into more experienced players more than other players which is another reason why I'm wary of you and then you blamed it on your subconscious or something, lol? Eh, idk.

My thoughts are basically the same as everyone else's about Ayaya right now, I'm not scum leaning her right now but the post Ness made about Ayaya's other RQS in SU is making me think why she isn't like that in this game? It seemed less chill and more silly, if I'm going to be honest. Sorry.


Dolby can you explain the sus on Kirby, I understand your sus on Ayayayayayayayayaya though?

First one is fine, but a few people were townreading Karen with me, but the second point on Ayaya is doesn't include anything that hadn't already been said.


Biggest indicator that Ayaya is be scum this game is if they're silent exempting defensive posts, and far to early to tell for that. More to early to tell based off that. Have a few susses on a few people not being as active as I'd expect, but it could easily be bad timezones

Tbh, I was thinking when going to bed last night that there was at least one maf between Kat/Ness, but doesn't look like they're teamed right now, though Kat today has been kinda weaker, and Ness seems more townie. Though on the other hand I can EASILY see a Ness/Zendal team with this comment here

I think he played exactly like that in Themeless mafia though, so that's why I'm so conflicted.

I'm definitely not town reading him, he hasn't done anything indicative of town really and I struggle to read him properly so I can never trust him.

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I think everyone should have a look at this:

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?416636-Themeless-Mafia-Mafia-Win!

I'm looking through it now to see if he's done anything that is scummy and contrasts with his usual scum play.

@Ness Wow talk about overreaction lol.

I'm sus of you, Ness. I'm also sus of Dolby. I can still agree with a suspicion of Dolby's and find you suspicious if you did something suspicious.

How was Ness overreacting there? That was a perfectly tame and valid comment.

@Zendel lurking. I was at work so I didnt really have time to reply but I was keeping up w/ thread

Its been a while since Ive played maf with Ness so maybe my meta on him is prob off but being hot/cold in terms of his temper was a scumtell iirc. Though his recent posts w/ "its always when Im town that people fos me" sounded a lot like frusturated town. If it werent for that tho, I'd scumlean him with more confidence: I feel like he jumped on nothing, and the "Kat its been 10 minutes" felt random trying to pressure for such a small time gap.

@Ness
regarding the whole reaction thing Eh, I guess, though I agree this is getting us no where lol. Theres a difference between "scummy" and "scum" though. Saying someone is scum is a hella lot more confident than saying someone is scummy.

Pretty sure it's the reverse

Also gonna address what Ness said, the piggybackness was in respect to Evan

As things stand, confident in Karen and f11 being town, then Kirby>FN1. Could be horribly wrong on these easily, particularly the last two