Mafia The Franchise Wars- Town & TP Win!

[Dolby]

Thoughts remain where they were last night for the most part. F11, Karen town. FN1 and Zendal weaker town leans. Kirby down to null, and Ness and Ayaya slight scum. Both are probably going to be reevaluated, but Ness's approach to the game this time around reminds me somewhat of his scumplay. More Analysis, less emotion, but I don't like his piggyback on Cleb(same could easily apply to Cleb), but more so that he viewed RQS's from different games in such a way, joke vs semi-serious. I don't have the time to properly express it rn, but him drawing attention to the contrast between Ayaya's RQS just felt off

 

[Arstotzkan]

Kat what was the last game you were scum in? Can you give me the link?

Im guessing youre not counting 3rd parties here (if you are that's SU mafia) but uhhh. I think it might have been an AZ game? I know I linked it in the SU game when Zendel asked for links but Im getting the search spinny thing of death and it wont let me search my posts in there

 

[Dolby]

TBt are my post dammit. Ok, thoughts remain as they were last night, f11 and Karen as town, with FN1 and Zendal as weaker town leans. Kirbys back to null, as looking back, his reasoning for preferring my RQS would be something he'd say as both alignments, and pressuring over posts between entrance and RQS is something that he does as town (interaction between him and Heyden last game as an example). Ness and Ayaya as slight scum. Ness is primarily because I don't like how he piggybacked off of Cleb, and his comparison of Ayaya's RQS just felt off. It was more analysis, but it didn't really bring value to the debate

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Ok, it was a thread glitch

 

[Arstotzkan]

smh ness some people have lives and are at work atm :^)

agreed on ness, would like to see his thoughts on that

 

[f11]

ya, what Dolby said about me combined about f11's note on him "pocketing" makes me envision a possible Dolby + f11 team but meh it's weak

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combined with**

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but then like we were scummates last game so he knows I freak out and think a lot when I'm maf so maybe he just noticed that change

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she played in SU mafia (the one where you were scum) & got replaced d2 or something

me and Dolby are scum together, yes.

Hm idk why ayaya answers are scummy. The answers don't call for deep thinking I think it's just like name three people and continue. It's not that deep imo. I didn't answer any questions (LUL) but for that one, looking at the game right now; Ness, Evan and Kit for the scum team.

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Ness is acting too team leadery and serious and that's so interesting to me :eyes:

 

[N e s s]

+5 scum points to Arstotzkan, considering she just said she thought Dolby was suspicious then agrees with him accusing me of scum.

Also @Dolby Explain to me how I in any way "piggybacked" off Cleb?

 

[KermitTea]

uh how does ness usually play then I thought his post was fine

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ok >didn't bring value to the debate
what was the debate anyway there was like nothing going on

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oh jk I have the memory of a goldfish

 

[N e s s]

Interesting how the minute I'm called scum both F11 and Arstotzkan swoop in and agree with Dolby yet both of them have said that he is scum not that long ago.

 

[KermitTea]

wait but f11 didn't agree with Dolby

 

[Dolby]

+5 scum points to Arstotzkan, considering she just said she thought Dolby was suspicious then agrees with him accusing me of scum.

Also @Dolby Explain to me how I in any way "piggybacked" off Cleb?

Don't have time but post 151 stands out as an example

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Ness Wow talk about overreaction lol.

I'm sus of you, Ness. I'm also sus of Dolby. I can still agree with a suspicion of Dolby's and find you suspicious if you did something suspicious.

 

[N e s s]

wait but f11 didn't agree with Dolby

She didn't explicitly say "I agree with Dolby", my point is she came in and then said i was acting "too team leaderish", which implies she thinks I'm suspicious.

 

[KermitTea]

well at this point I'm still suspicious of everyone it's really nbd unless they're calling you scum or something

 

[N e s s]

@Ness Wow talk about overreaction lol.

I'm sus of you, Ness. I'm also sus of Dolby. I can still agree with a suspicion of Dolby's and find you suspicious if you did something suspicious.

I suppose that's fair. What I don't like about it is that you called Dolby scum only 2 posts prior to agreeing with him. And that isn't overreaction, overreaction is "to the town".

@Dolby That isn't piggybacking. The reason I posted Ayaya's previous RQS answers is because I wanted to see if there was a noticeable comparison in differing people for the #5 question. And while there wasnt any different people, my point was that she had a change in tone from that game's RQS to this game's RQS. And if the piggybacking part is that I answered cleb about Evan, that was nothing but me telling him that I thought Evan was suspicious because of his tone behind his post about Ayaya and not his point about her.

 

[Dolby]

Just gonna go out and say that I'm PROBABLY going to not have wifi for the next 3 hours.

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@Ness, you pretty much voiced your suspicions literally the post after Cleb's in the case of both Ayaya and Evan

 

[N e s s]

Just gonna go out and say that I'm PROBABLY going to not have wifi for the next 3 hours.

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@Ness, you pretty much voiced your suspicions literally the post after Cleb's in the case of both Ayaya and Evan

The post I made after cleb was referring to the post I made asking Ayaya about what game she played last so I could see what the previous RQS answers were. I was working on that post BEFORE cleb even made his post about Evan/Ayaya, because I was trying to make it a post merge.

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Hence, why I replied to his post afterwards as a post merge

 

[Arstotzkan]

I suppose that's fair. What I don't like about it is that you called Dolby scum only 2 posts prior to agreeing with him. And that isn't overreaction, overreaction is "to the town".

:thinking: it may not be "to the town" level but it's pretty damn close imo.

I didn't call Dolby scum, I called him the most suspicious out of the players Karen mentioned (difference being confidence. You're saying that I'm saying that he's scum, which that implies confidence in that read. I'm not as sure of that as you're making me out to be). And if someone makes a valid point, the validity of the point doesn't really bear on how you're reading the person at the moment - it's still a valid point.

Like for example, last game: Abe was seen as sus, but he made some valid points last game regarding Dolby's indecisiveness at the EOD D1 lynch. I was sus of Abe, yes, but I agreed with his points, which strengthened my suspicion against Dolby. But in the end, I was still sus of both.

 

[amazonevan19]

After reading the thread, slight townleans on Karen and fireninja. Karen seems to be active and trying to be helpful, fireninja's RQS seemed fairly noobish/town to me. (As if I'm not a noob too Kappa)

Null on Dolby, Kat, ayaya, and Kirby. There seems to be a slight difference between Dolby's play rn and his play in the smash game, and yet that's certainly not enough for me to townread him. He could be either alignment.

Ayaya is a mixed bag to me. She's kinda lurking rn and gave a so-so explanation for her experienced players bit. Like, if you did put a bit of stock in the fact that they're experienced, why not just admit that up front? Unless you're scum and concerned about looking too eager to kill off the good players. But tbh I could also see what she said as a misstatement and at this point I'm not gonna put too much stock into those scumreads. Not enough info to go on.

Slight scumread on Ness, he seems like he's overreacting to stuff a lot and seems pretty intent on taking Dolby down for some reason. Idk something just feels off with him.

 

[N e s s]

If you say you have a FoS of someone, you think they are scum. If you say you are suspicious of someone, you think they are scum. Perhaps not with a level of confidence, but you saying "I'm suspicious of x" tells me that you clearly think that person is scummy.

And we're not getting anywhere anymore if we keep going back and forth like this. It wasn't an overreaction anyway, I was only pointing out something I thought was scummy, but I understand your PoV now.

 

[f11]

Vro I just said your play was interesting, but this over reaction is even more interesting kek