RIP Star fragment (and other) trees
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been thinking about this, and I wonder if people don't have themselves to blame for this. star trees have been in the game for months now, Nintendo definitely knew about them. and I know very little about game development, but from what I know patching star trees wasn't that difficult (please correct me if I'm wrong!). they probably could've patched this a while ago. why didn't they?
I wonder if Nintendo wasn't trying to look the other way? but with dream addresses being shared and more and more people posting pics of their star trees, they couldn't ignore it anymore. so they ultimately decided to patch it.
this is just speculation. I'm not trying to say this is what definitively happened, it's just a possibility. I do think people who hack or own hacked items need to be wiser and not broadcast their activities to the world. a lot of people were using these trees without really understanding what they were doing, and now they're mad that Nintendo patched them out without realizing that Nintendo owns the code and other people aren't allowed to mess with it. idk. I wish people would take this as a learning lesson; if you're gonna violate a company's ToS, you need to be sneaky about it, not brag about it on Twitter.
edit: also people saying "they fixed this, why don't they fix [extremely hard thing to fix] and [thing that doesn't need to be "fixed" because it's part of the developer's vision]" are out of their minds lol
I wonder if Nintendo wasn't trying to look the other way? but with dream addresses being shared and more and more people posting pics of their star trees, they couldn't ignore it anymore. so they ultimately decided to patch it.
this is just speculation. I'm not trying to say this is what definitively happened, it's just a possibility. I do think people who hack or own hacked items need to be wiser and not broadcast their activities to the world. a lot of people were using these trees without really understanding what they were doing, and now they're mad that Nintendo patched them out without realizing that Nintendo owns the code and other people aren't allowed to mess with it. idk. I wish people would take this as a learning lesson; if you're gonna violate a company's ToS, you need to be sneaky about it, not brag about it on Twitter.
edit: also people saying "they fixed this, why don't they fix [extremely hard thing to fix] and [thing that doesn't need to be "fixed" because it's part of the developer's vision]" are out of their minds lol
They probably focused on the bigger glitches that happened during the initial release of the game first. But that said, maybe they didn't actually know about the star trees until they became more popular through social media. The dreams only adding to that.
definitely possible, and if that's the case that's why I think people have themselves to blame. if people had been more quiet about it Nintendo might've let it slip by. there's other visual glitches in the game that don't get a lot of attention because they're not as "aesthetic" so they don't get talked about much in social media, and so far Nintendo hasn't acknowledged them. but you don't want your userbase to broadcast the holes in your code to the world.
I think you're definitely right which is why I still firmly believe that once something gets popular, it usually destroys itself.
I almost feel sorry for people that paid real money for them, but actually, nah
their own fault if they paid for hacked wares
their own fault if they paid for hacked wares
FRANS_PLAYER
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I don't blame Nintendo for patching it, as that is their job and they are supposed to keep all elements in the game under the ToS, but if I had a star frag. tree, I would feel pretty bummed :/
Edit: Also want to acknowledge that most people selling their "services" to plant star frag. trees were being EXTREMELY unfair about it and charging inflated prices of NMTs and even irl money
Edit: Also want to acknowledge that most people selling their "services" to plant star frag. trees were being EXTREMELY unfair about it and charging inflated prices of NMTs and even irl money
not sure if you've been answered yet, (reading this thread slowly lol) but they actually have - newer switches don't have a vulnerability that old switches could exploit to be modded. Instead there's a different hoop they have to jump through but I'll cut this line here since I don't want to promote hacking.
however, as the patched units are new, physically produced units, with a different piece of hardware that makes it more difficult to hack, older switches are still vulnerable.
nintendo also does provide firmware updates, but as long as you just never update your switch (ie. just disconnect it from the internet forever after purchasing) then you can still hack.
hopefully that helps clarify that a bit.
Toska
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Yeah, it makes since that Nintendo did it. I never had them, and probably never would. They did add a nice element to the game, though. Hopefully they add them as an actual item that isn't considered "cheating."
It's nice that they replaced them with Bells, rather than taking them away entirely.
It's nice that they replaced them with Bells, rather than taking them away entirely.
also, sorry for spamming this thread lol but it really bothers me that people are like "OMG Nintendo took out the star trees because a white man told them to, but they won't add more skin colors or textured hair for poc!!" on Twitter and I need to vent
1. as I mentioned there's no reason to think a team of Japanese devs cares at all what a mediocre youtuber does with his free time. it's likely that they decided to patch this now because the dream suite really was bringing attention to star trees
2. it is so outrageously fake woke and performative to talk about things like more inclusivity options for people of color now that Nintendo removed star trees. you're sad that Nintendo took your pretty trees. I understand that. but don't try to act like this is about people of color. if you cared so much about this game not treating poc correctly you wouldn't have supported Nintendo by paying $60 for it. if you cared so much you wouldn't constantly broadcast your support for this game on social media, and try to get clout for having a pretty island. but now that they take your trees, now you care? stop using the voices of people of color to amplify your petty complaints. stop acting like you care about them when this is entirely about being mad that Nintendo took your aesthetic trees away from you. this is 100% performative wokeness and it is driving me insane.
1. as I mentioned there's no reason to think a team of Japanese devs cares at all what a mediocre youtuber does with his free time. it's likely that they decided to patch this now because the dream suite really was bringing attention to star trees
2. it is so outrageously fake woke and performative to talk about things like more inclusivity options for people of color now that Nintendo removed star trees. you're sad that Nintendo took your pretty trees. I understand that. but don't try to act like this is about people of color. if you cared so much about this game not treating poc correctly you wouldn't have supported Nintendo by paying $60 for it. if you cared so much you wouldn't constantly broadcast your support for this game on social media, and try to get clout for having a pretty island. but now that they take your trees, now you care? stop using the voices of people of color to amplify your petty complaints. stop acting like you care about them when this is entirely about being mad that Nintendo took your aesthetic trees away from you. this is 100% performative wokeness and it is driving me insane.
SpaceTokki77
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For 1 star tree?! That isn't fair. If you're that desperate for a star tree, just buy one for real money. Not saying anyone should, or promoting buying one, but 240 NMT for one tree is extremely outrageous and overpriced. I feel really bad for that person. They literally paid 240 NMT for a money tree.
saucySheep
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das sad :C i was really hoping to buy one at some point
SpaceTokki77
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One thing I was thinking about:
AC:NH and pretty much any other game hackers know what they're doing. Tbh, i've thought that maybe some hackers might find a way around this patch. Within a little while, they'll probably find a new way to create star trees or maybe some new hack.
AC:NH and pretty much any other game hackers know what they're doing. Tbh, i've thought that maybe some hackers might find a way around this patch. Within a little while, they'll probably find a new way to create star trees or maybe some new hack.
More like “if you’re that desperate for a star tree, consider your life choices and feel free to read the TOS because it applies to you too.” I admit to not feeling too bad for the person who bought it. I mean, how do you not know that the tree wasn’t a legit in-game item?
What’s truly absurd is how some of the same people complain about Nintendo’s possible monetization strategies for AC and say they would never, ever pay for DLC of any kind. Then they turn around and pay real money for one hex-edited tree. Lord.
I still remember how harmful hacking was when Wild World was around, and honestly I'm glad nintendo is so strict on it and discouraging it. I'm surprised that people are so angry at Nintendo for this, too. This is exactly in line with their policies against hacking in all their products. I also don't think the star/item trees added much to the game. People make losing them seem like such a big deal, and I don't really get it? I get being angry at how harsh the report feature is, because I don't like how it can ban people's dream addresses for random, small things, but even without them being reported I think Nintendo would have done this eventually too.
Goodness, people, no one said Nintendo paid specific attention to what people on Youtube were doing. But they almost certainly have some kind of moderation for reports (some DAs with star trees were up for too long which sort of rules out autobans, but there's always things you can't catch with algorithms, like inappropriate designs), and those YT folks apparently did stream reporting sprees. So it's not really too farfetched to think that if the moderators get a noticeable influx of hacking reports, they'll look into the matter and see it's mostly star trees. And on the community side, it looks like the YT kid being a jerk was successful.
Your Local Wild Child
Matty the smarting-nosed “reindeer”
I feel like those are the people who just buy the trees to “show Nintendo their place.” I find it kinda ridiculous.
