Nintendo forcing online membership on solo players!

[thelonewanderer]

I don’t understand the notion that if someone is complaining, that they don’t enjoy the game? Correlation does not equal causation. Likewise, I don’t get why I’m being called a “troll” because I have a strong passion for this game and have a different point of view? I wear my heart on my sleeve, I’m an extremely open person and maybe that rough some people the wrong way or something? Yes, most of my threads are “negative” because the game hasn’t met my expectation yet. And I’m not going to pretend it has.

If I’m so negative, why do people still like my posts/comments? I ask the tough question that other people aren’t willing to ask and be the voice to those that feel the same way I do.

I don’t know what happened to this forum, folks used to be so nice to me and it seems everyone I use to know is gone. Everyone here is so quick to make their mind up about me. Yet when I browse other forums, I see the majority of folks agree with me. So I know it is not only me that has this viewpoint. If anything, I’m wondering why folks on here are so different from the other AC outlet?

Just like people assume I’m trolling because I haven’t replied yet. Trust me when I say this, I read every single person reply. I’m having issues with the site right now and I’m dealing with other personal issues such as summer heat and dehydration and lack of any kind of air conditioner.

And thank you for those who understand that I am passionate about this game or why else would I post so much? If I hate a game, do you think I would post daily? I waited 14 long years for a console AC experience and I have a right to voice my opinion because it hasn’t met my expectation.

I don’t know who John Wick is though I feel I might have seen that name around but I feel bad if he left because of being misjudged.

I love this game just like everyone here. AC has always been my favorite franchise simply for the fact that I can escape reality that no other game seems to be able to do.

 

[moonolotl]

I don’t understand the notion that if someone is complaining, that they don’t enjoy the game? Correlation does not equal causation. Likewise, I don’t get why I’m being called a “troll” because I have a strong passion for this game and have a different point of view? I wear my heart on my sleeve, I’m an extremely open person and maybe that rough some people the wrong way or something? Yes, most of my threads are “negative” because the game hasn’t met my expectation yet. And I’m not going to pretend it has.

If I’m so negative, why do people still like my posts/comments? I ask the tough question that other people aren’t willing to ask and be the voice to those that feel the same way I do.

I don’t know what happened to this forum, folks used to be so nice to me and it seems everyone I use to know is gone. Everyone here is so quick to make their mind up about me. Yet when I browse other forums, I see the majority of folks agree with me. So I know it is not only me that has this viewpoint. If anything, I’m wondering why folks on here are so different from the other AC outlet?

Just like people assume I’m trolling because I haven’t replied yet. Trust me when I say this, I read every single person reply. I’m having issues with the site right now and I’m dealing with other personal issues such as summer heat and dehydration and lack of any kind of air conditioner.

And thank you for those who understand that I am passionate about this game or why else would I post so much? If I hate a game, do you think I would post daily? I waited 14 long years for a console AC experience and I have a right to voice my opinion because it hasn’t met my expectation.

I don’t know who John Wick is though I feel I might have seen that name around but I feel bad if he left because of being misjudged.

I love this game just like everyone here. AC has always been my favorite franchise simply for the fact that I can escape reality that no other game seems to be able to do.

(sorry for the bump lol but i really wanted to respond)
I personally didnt see you as a troll because i can see the passion in what you say. I don't think you hate the game because of that reason either. However the reason why people are so upset is because of the amount of negativity coming from you specifically and the fact that most of the negativity you've been talking about has been either 1. repeated stuff others have said before, and 2. controversial topics people dont really believe in.
I completely get you though. You're passionate about animal crossing and you want to share your hopes for the game/the company. I think the only thing that's holding you back from having a proper discussion with the community about it (if you dont want a lighthearted discussion idk what to say this might not be the best place) is the tone you go into things with. Take that as you will
I do apologise if it seemed like me and many others were going after you. I think many of us are just so sick of ACNH being judged and ridiculed when most of us see it as an incredible game as it is. Like with time travelling, i believe you commented on that? The general opinion is that you should let people play as you want, but you came with the controversial one (which isnt a bad thing, may i add, as long as you present it in the right way).
I respect you for standing your ground, i really do. Thank you for replying!

 

[Annika.]

You aren't the first (or 50th, honestly) person to complain about the membership, not every opinion needs a thread. There's no discussion value when you only care about your opinion. You can be passionate in general discussion threads, but you rather push your view to the frontpage and forum page to attract more views to it. The message doesn't matter if it's delivered in a constant negative and trolling way.

 

[R. Planet]

I'll say this.

It's amazing to see people claim to feel that the spawn rate on peacock butterflies was totally normal before the update. Maybe they just didn't have the experience I did.

It was an insane goldmine. The kind of thing that never happens in AC when it comes to bugs and fish. In my hybrid garden I would just catch one after another after another after another. I could rack up dozens in no time at all. It was literally getting to the point where it was taking the fun out of bug hunting.

Just a total fish in a barrel situation. Glad Nintendo fixed it.

 

[Annika.]

I saw peacock butterflies with barely any hybrids, I can't imagine how many you could have grinded if you filled your entire island with hybrids.

 

[Corrie]

yo what app is this? Looks super useful! c:

I almost screamed when I saw the screenie too! I've been waiting for something like this to track my bugs and fish!

It's called Guide for Animal Crossing New Horizons (ACNH) by Gene Sy. It has a light green icon with the leaf in the middle in white.

 

[Annika.]

I almost screamed when I saw the screenie too! I've been waiting for something like this to track my bugs and fish!

It's called Guide for Animal Crossing New Horizons (ACNH) by Gene Sy. It has a light green icon with the leaf in the middle in white.

The app is so incredibly helpful, it even tells you the size of the shadow for fish. I always use it when I want to fish for profit.

 

[JKDOS]

Nintendo online isn't needed to play the Stalk Market. It's only needed to make a guaranteed 600% profit.

Using the turnip price predictors, unless you get stuck with a decreasing pattern, you should always be able to make a profit, even if small. And those weeks you lose the profit, you aren't losing too much that you're unable to recover.

Catching fish may not be fun, but there is definitely potential to make up to 150,000 bells an hour do it. This is infact how I made my money during the 1st week of the game's release, and was making 500,000 bells a day by just playing a few hours. If you run east to west and west to east on the beach, you can catch 30 fish in 20 minutes. Just keep count and fix your fishing pole after 29 fish, or buy a new rod at NC and upgrade it with iron after every sell trip.

 

[thelonewanderer]

(sorry for the bump lol but i really wanted to respond)
I personally didnt see you as a troll because i can see the passion in what you say. I don't think you hate the game because of that reason either. However the reason why people are so upset is because of the amount of negativity coming from you specifically and the fact that most of the negativity you've been talking about has been either 1. repeated stuff others have said before, and 2. controversial topics people dont really believe in.
I completely get you though. You're passionate about animal crossing and you want to share your hopes for the game/the company. I think the only thing that's holding you back from having a proper discussion with the community about it (if you dont want a lighthearted discussion idk what to say this might not be the best place) is the tone you go into things with. Take that as you will
I do apologise if it seemed like me and many others were going after you. I think many of us are just so sick of ACNH being judged and ridiculed when most of us see it as an incredible game as it is. Like with time travelling, i believe you commented on that? The general opinion is that you should let people play as you want, but you came with the controversial one (which isnt a bad thing, may i add, as long as you present it in the right way).
I respect you for standing your ground, i really do. Thank you for replying!

No, thank you for the bump so people can see that I actually wrote a reply back.

I guess when I write “controversial topic”, I don’t really see it as controversial, at least not when I post it. Whatever comes to my mind, I write right away so I don’t forget. I don’t really think when I write something down.

And yes I realize after I wrote my post and based on some of the replies that I have a habit of saying stuff without doing any research.

I hear people like yourself mention my tone, but I feel it's more of my writing style. I’m not in the angry mood (that people think) when I write these posts, in fact I’m pretty much relaxed most of the time. Like real life, if I’m angry, you wouldn’t know it, likewise, if I’m happy, you wouldn’t know it, and if I’m sad, I’ll crack jokes without realizing that I am doing that.

Thank you for understanding.

 

[Red Cat]

Nintendo online isn't needed to play the Stalk Market. It's only needed to make a guaranteed 600% profit.

Using the turnip price predictors, unless you get stuck with a decreasing pattern, you should always be able to make a profit, even if small. And those weeks you lose the profit, you aren't losing too much that you're unable to recover.

Catching fish may not be fun, but there is definitely potential to make up to 150,000 bells an hour do it. This is infact how I made my money during the 1st week of the game's release, and was making 500,000 bells a day by just playing a few hours. If you run east to west and west to east on the beach, you can catch 30 fish in 20 minutes. Just keep count and fix your fishing pole after 29 fish, or buy a new rod at NC and upgrade it with iron after every sell trip.

It's true you don't need NO to play the stalk market, but if you don't have NO, you either have to have the free time to check the turnip prices every day in the morning and afternoon or have to be willing to TT, and I don't fall into either of those categories, so that's why the bug nerf really upsets me.

Fishing may have the potential to make 150k / hour, but I don't find it that reliable. Other than red snappers and the big bell making fish, fishing is hit or miss. Not everyone can spend several hours a day to grind for bells by fishing to pay for expensive things like the home loans, bridges, inclines, and moving buildings around.

Beyond that, there are the daily fixed income sources like the money tree, money rock, wasps, fossils, hot items, and fruit orchards, but those sources are limited and it takes a long time using those methods to make enough bells to pay for terraforming projects.

Some of us feel like we're really being pushed into a corner by the peacock and tarantula spawn rate drops, since it feels like it's either TT or online trading to make enough bells. It's nice that Nintendo is giving us more ways to play the game with the updates, but it stinks that they're also adding new restrictions in those updates to the way we're able to play the game by lowering ABD interest and reducing rare bug spawn rates.

 

[Annika.]

No, thank you for the bump so people can see that I actually wrote a reply back.

I guess when I write “controversial topic”, I don’t really see it as controversial, at least not when I post it. Whatever comes to my mind, I write right away so I don’t forget. I don’t really think when I write something down.

And yes I realize after I wrote my post and based on some of the replies that I have a habit of saying stuff without doing any research.

I hear people like yourself mention my tone, but I feel it's more of my writing style. I’m not in the angry mood (that people think) when I write these posts, in fact I’m pretty much relaxed most of the time. Like real life, if I’m angry, you wouldn’t know it, likewise, if I’m happy, you wouldn’t know it, and if I’m sad, I’ll crack jokes without realizing that I am doing that.

Thank you for understanding.

Yeah, it's really difficult to get the right tone across online. People shouldn't make fun of your opinions, but for example it's a little bit hypocritical to say grinding tarantulas is bad when you were grinding peacock butterflies, you know. Both of these things got nerfed, you shouldn't talk down to other players' way of playing when Nintendo made that decision to balance the game. It disadvantages all of us, it's okay to be mad but at some point you're just riling up people with the way you phrase and express your personal opinions.

Also "dry" responses come across as passive aggressive pretty easily. And controversial statements don't help, but you also got a lot of **** just because people decided you deserve it which isn't fair at all. I'm sorry if my posts contributed to that, but I just like to challenge people's views.

 

[thelonewanderer]

Yeah, it's really difficult to get the right tone across online. People shouldn't make fun of your opinions, but for example it's a little bit hypocritical to say grinding tarantulas is bad when you were grinding peacock butterflies, you know. Both of these things got nerfed, you shouldn't talk down to other players' way of playing when Nintendo made that decision to balance the game. It disadvantages all of us, it's okay to be mad but at some point you're just riling up people with the way you phrase and express your personal opinions.

Also "dry" responses come across as passive aggressive pretty easily. And controversial statements don't help, but you also got a lot of **** just because people decided you deserve it which isn't fair at all. I'm sorry if my posts contributed to that, but I just like to challenge people's views.

Yeah that whole Tarantula thing was me not thinking and was hoping people would forget. I wanted to get my point across without realizing the effect it had on others folks. Which many others who generally agree with me turned on me. But like everything on the internet, it's hard to take back something once it's posted.

My intention was to show that “how other people play does in fact affect your game”, it wasn’t meant to put down people who farm tarantula ( I don’t think it's wrong), but I did write otherwise to get a point across. But people can only assume what your intentions are by the way you write. My posts tend to be all over the place so I wanted something to connect back to my point and Tarantula farming just happened to be the first thing that crosses my mind. I always post or have a habit of always posting what is on my mind so everything always seems out of place.

What do you mean by “dry” response? It's okay as long as you can see that I’m passionate. Like me or hate me, prefer the former, but don’t call me a troll (not saying you or if you did or not) because I’m passionate. I mean this is the only game I’m playing and I plan on playing this game until the next AC comes out so if I hate this game, then I probably hate all games.

Yeah people give me unfair heat, but these threads also inadvertently let me know who understands me and who are quick to judge. As such, I’ll have close friends when I go online. Or get an idea who shares the same mindset as me.

I do apologize for the whole Tarantula thing, it was only after I posted that I realized just how bad that post really was and how it pisses a lot of people off.

 

[N a t]

I don't feel that way at all. If anything it just felt like things might be more of a grind and that it may encourage more game play from the players who want to put in the work. Because of the changes to bug spawns and the decrease in ABD interest, it'll just take a slightly longer time or more work to get certain things such as bells or expensive furniture. I don't mind. It isn't great, but I'm not too upset really. I already play this game a lot. I did earn the majority of my bells from trading with others on here but I don't do it too often so I'm kinda broke these days Haha. Oh well!

 

[thelonewanderer]

I don't feel that way at all. If anything it just felt like things might be more of a grind and that it may encourage more game play from the players who want to put in the work. Because of the changes to bug spawns and the decrease in ABD interest, it'll just take a slightly longer time or more work to get certain things such as bells or expensive furniture. I don't mind. It isn't great, but I'm not too upset really. I already play this game a lot. I did earn the majority of my bells from trading with others on here but I don't do it too often so I'm kinda broke these days Haha. Oh well!

You’re right but I don’t find the common butterflies or any other bugs to be sold for much. I feel it the same price you get from picking up seashells. I also fish but I don’t make anywhere as much as those who say they make good money with it. Bass sells for 400 and Mackerel are 180 I believe and I mostly get those two. Clown fish are also very low price as well. I don’t get red snapper often and very rarely get a Barred Knifejaw.

It will be different in the summer when we have beetles and sharks. But right now, all the big money maker are rare fishes like Marlin, Tuna, Oarfish, Barreleyes, Coelacanth, and etc… Also don’t have any rivers or ponds right now due to terraforming.

 

[Annika.]

Yeah that whole Tarantula thing was me not thinking and was hoping people would forget. I wanted to get my point across without realizing the effect it had on others folks. Which many others who generally agree with me turned on me. But like everything on the internet, it's hard to take back something once it's posted.

My intention was to show that “how other people play does in fact affect your game”, it wasn’t meant to put down people who farm tarantula ( I don’t think it's wrong), but I did write otherwise to get a point across. But people can only assume what your intentions are by the way you write. My posts tend to be all over the place so I wanted something to connect back to my point and Tarantula farming just happened to be the first thing that crosses my mind. I always post or have a habit of always posting what is on my mind so everything always seems out of place.

What do you mean by “dry” response? It's okay as long as you can see that I’m passionate. Like me or hate me, prefer the former, but don’t call me a troll (not saying you or if you did or not) because I’m passionate. I mean this is the only game I’m playing and I plan on playing this game until the next AC comes out so if I hate this game, then I probably hate all games.

Yeah people give me unfair heat, but these threads also inadvertently let me know who understands me and who are quick to judge. As such, I’ll have close friends when I go online. Or get an idea who shares the same mindset as me.

I do apologize for the whole Tarantula thing, it was only after I posted that I realized just how bad that post really was and how it pisses a lot of people off.

Yeah, but the bugs were unbalanced from the beginning, you can't really blame people for catching them. It had to be fixed either way.

I just think a text without any kind of emotion (like "I feel like", "I think" or any emoticons) can just easily be taken as cold. It is a weird phenomenon, but I think it's just part of the chat lingo or rather behaviour we're used to. Well-written text without emotion just comes off as academic and unpersonal in a sense. And people on this forum tend to be younger as well, so they tend to be more emotional toward texts.

But this is all very off-topic. Different personalities always clash, especially online when you're expected to behave a certain way. I think it's more important for people to focus on the message of your posts, rather than for you to change how you type and express yourself online.

 

[N a t]

You’re right but I don’t find the common butterflies or any other bugs to be sold for much. I feel it the same price you get from picking up seashells. I also fish but I don’t make anywhere as much as those who say they make good money with it. Bass sells for 400 and Mackerel are 180 I believe and I mostly get those two. Clown fish are also very low price as well. I don’t get red snapper often and very rarely get a Barred Knifejaw.

It will be different in the summer when we have beetles and sharks. But right now, all the big money maker are rare fishes like Marlin, Tuna, Oarfish, Barreleyes, Coelacanth, and etc… Also don’t have any rivers or ponds right now due to terraforming.

I agree with you there. I feel like I'm more indifferent because of the fact that I don't normally find a ton of things I want to spend my bells on, so when I'm not trading with others I am usually very poor in game. So I guess I don't feel a demand for bells, but I also know it'll be harder to make them. It both does and does not hurt me in a sense. I actually just saw my first peacock butterfly today since the update! I miss having them everywhere but I'm also not super upset I guess. Very mixed feelings about it. I'll probably either have to work harder or have to use online more often now. While I do not think that Nintendo is forcing its online service on solo players, I do understand your frustration because it will be harder for you. I can't complain very much because I DO use online. I do get what you're saying though, and we can all look forward to beetle season, I know I am! My house isn't gonna pay itself off!

 

[Red Cat]

Yeah, but the bugs were unbalanced from the beginning, you can't really blame people for catching them. It had to be fixed either way.

Except it didn't have to be fixed. It's not like peacock butterflies were so common you couldn't see where you were going because they were constantly flying in your face. Yes, they were unusually common for their value, but that wasn't a bad thing and it was a nice reward for breeding hybrids. They were inferior to turnips for making bells so they weren't game-breaking; they were just an alternative way to make bells which has now been significantly nerfed.

I can see reducing tarantula spawn rates because they can be an annoyance on your island if you're not trying to make bells, but basically no one is hurt by too many peacock butterflies and if you think they make getting bells too easy, then just don't catch them. I can't imagine anyone was saying "I hate all of these peacock butterflies appearing on my island. I just want more common, yellow, tiger, and bluebottle butterflies. And more stinkbugs please!" If the player base wasn't asking for this change, then why make the change unless the goal was not to satisfy players but instead to drive people to make bells using Nintendo Online?

 

[Annika.]

Except it didn't have to be fixed.

I guess that's true. If they can sell common furniture for 100.000 bells they shouldn't be bothered by us making a lot of bells easily.

I'd like to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt on this one though, they gave us exclusive colors to encourage trading so I don't see why they would bother with bells for the same reason. Going from like 100k to possibly 30k an hour isn't going to affect our progress a lot, I'd be more willing to think they changed it to get people to buy NSO if they got rid of money rocks and money balloons. They definitely nerfed money balloons in some capacity, but I did get 30.000 bells from one earlier today. But there was definitely no real reason to nerf bugs like this.

 

[Yoshisaur]

Bro the online is worth it for the NES & SNES games

 

[thelonewanderer]

Yeah, but the bugs were unbalanced from the beginning, you can't really blame people for catching them. It had to be fixed either way.

I just think a text without any kind of emotion (like "I feel like", "I think" or any emoticons) can just easily be taken as cold. It is a weird phenomenon, but I think it's just part of the chat lingo or rather behaviour we're used to. Well-written text without emotion just comes off as academic and unpersonal in a sense. And people on this forum tend to be younger as well, so they tend to be more emotional toward texts.

But this is all very off-topic. Different personalities always clash, especially online when you're expected to behave a certain way. I think it's more important for people to focus on the message of your posts, rather than for you to change how you type and express yourself online.

Yes the bugs were very unbalanced and I only discovered them thanks to my hybrid. But I can’t tell you how happy and joyful I was when I saw them. I wasn’t sure how much they were sold for but they look pretty, and pretty things tend to be worth something. Beside the bell costs, they look so pretty flying over my flower gardens.

Yeah It's really hard to write if you don’t include emotion. Like if I say Time Travelers and I don’t write “some” before it, people will take notice and give me some heat for it. I only dislike those who exploit the marketplace, not all time travelers.

If I was talking to people in person, just by my tone, they can tell I don’t mean all Time Travelers. I always prefer talking on the phone than via text or mail because I always get paranoid worrying if people are going to misunderstand me and take it the wrong way. Most of the time people don’t care but it still gives me deja vu.

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Bro the online is worth it for the NES & SNES games

Wait what?!?! They have NES and SNES game online for free? Or do you have to pay? I'm confuse?