Nintendo forcing online membership on solo players!

[DJStarstryker]

I play offline (don't have an online membership) and I've so far made profits every single week except 1 (a constantly decreasing week). If you read this paper that discusses how turnips work in this game and then use something like Turnip Prophet (which uses the data from same paper), then you should be able to track your town's turnip prices and do pretty decent at it. Sure, you won't have 500 bell profits every single week, but you don't need it either to be able to make profits.

I honestly don't feel like I'm forced to have an online membership. In fact, I bet I could get the small number of things I'm looking to trade for (fruits I don't have, alternate Nook Miles furniture, etc) within the 7 day free trial whenever I sign up for it. Everything else I feel like I can eventually get on my own.

 

[Raz]

they might not be in season? they spawn from hybrids normally
maybe the spawn rates are even lower in southern hemisphere april

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Its not a competitive game, no. but the balance is important because its an economy and it also affects how quickly you progress. If you get too much money too quickly people might end up growing bored, is what i imagine theyre thinking
And they did focus on bugs/glitches, they didnt completely ignore them

You're right!

 

[moonolotl]

You're right!

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I knew it! i visited a southern hemisphere island today and didnt see any at all so i had a feeling they probably werent in season
also i had no idea you were brazilian/from brazil lol hi im half brazilian! (the ad gave me a hint)

 

[Raz]

I knew it! i visited a southern hemisphere island today and didnt see any at all so i had a feeling they probably werent in season
also i had no idea you were brazilian/from brazil lol hi im half brazilian! (the ad gave me a hint)

I had to check on the app hahaha. I also tried for days to find a Jewel Beetle before consulting the app about it's availability, just to see they're only available on the northern hemisphere right now haha

Do you speak Portuguese? That was kinda impressive to figure that out just from the ad hahah

 

[moonolotl]

I had to check on the app hahaha. I also tried for days to find a Jewel Beetle before consulting the app about it's availability, just to see they're only available on the northern hemisphere right now haha

Do you speak Portuguese? That was kinda impressive to figure that out just from the ad hahah

i honestly feel bad for southern hemisphere players because most of the info/conversation going on is all about northern hemisphere situations

and yeah i used to be fluent in it, just havent spoken it in a while so im definitely rusty. Not gonna lie i did cheat a little and check your profile to make sure i was right before i said anything haha

 

[Annika.]

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[Red Cat]

Its not a competitive game, no. but the balance is important because its an economy and it also affects how quickly you progress. If you get too much money too quickly people might end up growing bored, is what i imagine theyre thinking
And they did focus on bugs/glitches, they didnt completely ignore them

If Nintendo were really interested in preventing people from "progressing" too fast, they would have gone after the #1 bell maker in the game which are turnips. Nerfing peacocks didn't balance bell making; it just widened the gap between turnips and catching bugs. I guess they don't want you to progress too fast by catching butterflies, but if you're paying for NO, it's okay if you make all the bells you need in a single day by TTing and selling turnips in other peoples' towns.

If Nintendo wants more people to play online, they should have used the carrot and added features to the multiplayer experience to make it better, but instead they lazily used the stick to hurt the solo experience.

 

[moonolotl]

I just wanted to report that I just successfully created a tarantula island. My last axe broke halfway through, so I still had like 40% of the island covered with bamboo trees. This makes me think that the spawn rate may decrease when no trees exist, but maybe I was unlucky the first time.

They spawned like every 3rd circle, but never two at once.

honestly some might consider that a good thing since 2 at once always seems to = fainting for me

If Nintendo were really interested in preventing people from "progressing" too fast, they would have gone after the #1 bell maker in the game which are turnips. Nerfing peacocks didn't balance bell making; it just widened the gap between turnips and catching bugs. I guess they don't want you to progress too fast by catching butterflies, but if you're paying for NO, it's okay if you make all the bells you need in a single day by TTing and selling turnips in other peoples' towns.

If Nintendo wants more people to play online, they should have used the carrot and added features to the multiplayer experience to make it better, but instead they lazily used the stick to hurt the solo experience.

idk man they just thought the butterflies were too much idk what to tell you
turnips have always been present and have always been able to go that high, from what im aware of. Patching them out now would cause an uproar imo. Butterflies were never this easy to catch, again, from what im aware of. Do you see what im getting at here?
I dont disagree with your points, i do think its weird, but i see why it was done
Also 1. butterflies arent completely gone and you can still make good money off them, you kinda act like they just dont exist anymore lol and 2. sadly its kinda up to nintendo what they feel the game needs. We have an input, but we dont know their vision for the game as well as they do. They didnt intend to hinder the solo experience either, and im sure many people dont think they did. Obviously it did hinder some people though

 

[Raz]

i honestly feel bad for southern hemisphere players because most of the info/conversation going on is all about northern hemisphere situations

and yeah i used to be fluent in it, just havent spoken it in a while so im definitely rusty. Not gonna lie i did cheat a little and check your profile to make sure i was right before i said anything haha

Yeah i was thinking about how the updates are coming and how they're focused on the northern hemisphere.

With winter approaching (coming in June), I think we'll not see any winter-related event until they come out by the end of the year in the north. The silver lining is that we'll see the winter bugs and fish (and snowmen) first hahah

 

[stitchmaker]

I have online and have only used it to buy some flowers. That got fixed with Lief appearing in town.
I'm happy that the bug like tarantulas got lowered. Those are rare bugs that should be hard to catch. Catching 3 on the first night shouldn't be happening.
It's not the new CEO. Nintendo said there would be paid online membership when the switch was released. They told us paid online would start summer 2017. They delayed paid online membership and we didn't pay until Pokemon Let's Go came out.

 

[Annika.]

Also to add to the other discussion: Nobody should get flak for posting negative opinions and airing out their issues. But constantly making threads about your opinions and then not replying to them to discuss it with people is trolling. It doesn't matter if it's negative or not, we have general threads for a reason. Imagine if the 1000+ posts from the ACNH rant thread were all individual threads. It has become ill-intended spam.

Discussing the morals of having a paid online subscription while one of your free apps generated $3B really is not a topic relevant to Animal Crossing. Does solo play disadvantage you? No. You can get all fruits eventually. Nintendo made Leif give us our missing flowers. Every item is available to you, even if you're stick with a single color. You can decorate to change most of the furniture anyway, that's more than previous Animal Crossing titles did. Turnip prices are a gamble and the game is more or less intended to be played with friends to help each other out and trade stuff, like Pokémon did since 1996. At least there's not a New Horizons and New Skylines edition with version-exclusive furniture.

 

[Raz]

Also to add to the other discussion: Nobody should get flak for posting negative opinions and airing out their issues. But constantly making threads about your opinions and then not replying to them to discuss it with people is trolling. It doesn't matter if it's negative or not, we have general threads for a reason. Imagine if the 1000+ posts from the ACNH rant thread were all individual threads. It has become ill-intended spam.

Discussing the morals of having a paid online subscription while one of your free apps generated $3B really is not a topic relevant to Animal Crossing. Does solo play disadvantage you? No. You can get all fruits eventually. Nintendo made Leif give us our missing flowers. Every item is available to you, even if you're stick with a single color. You can decorate to change most of the furniture anyway, that's more than previous Animal Crossing titles did. Turnip prices are a gamble and the game is more or less intended to be played with friends to help each other out and trade stuff, like Pokémon did since 1996. At least there's not a New Horizons and New Skylines edition with version-exclusive furniture.

I'll be honest, I kinda hope that they eventually release a "complete version" of the game in cartridge form. Like the Welcome Amiibo version of NL. The reason being, currently, ACNH is exactly like Street Fighter V: the disc/cartridge only comes with the most basic data for the game, and as they used the same approach (something similar to "games as a service"), there's a huge problem down the road where, if they never release a cartridge containing all the update data, ACNH's carts will always be an unfinished game (because of its marketing model). It's bad for those who have the carts but it's even worse for the preservation of the media.

 

[Eirrinn]

Look. I’m not trying to be rude I’m really not but you NEED to take a break from animal crossing, or just the forums either one I’m starting to get worried that you’ll burst a blood vessel over how angry you sound 24/7 making threads like this.
As for the topic, no. They aren’t forcing multiplayer you can still play fine alone. I still get nice pea butterfly spawns from my hybrids along with man faced stink bugs and tarantulas

 

[Annika.]

I'll be honest, I kinda hope that they eventually release a "complete version" of the game in cartridge form. Like the Welcome Amiibo version of NL.

Me too! It would suck if people with terrible (or no) internet connection couldn't enjoy the game in its entirety. I understand keeping stuff out because of spoilers, but we really should see a complete edition in a year from now. I tried to load up an old New Leaf cartridge to see if it works and the game wouldn't allow me to start it unless I downloaded the Welcome Amiibo update, but I couldn't update it without a SD card.

 

[Raz]

Me too! It would suck if people with terrible (or no) internet connection couldn't enjoy the game in its entirety. I understand keeping stuff out because of spoilers, but we really should see a complete edition in a year from now. I tried to load up an old New Leaf cartridge to see if it works and the game wouldn't allow me to start it unless I downloaded the Welcome Amiibo update, but I couldn't update it without a SD card.

Now imagine how it's gonna be once Nintendo inevitably cuts down the internet support for the 3ds. My NL cartridge isn't the Welcome Amiibo version, and I'm trying to find a copy that contains the update just to be safe.

 

[moonolotl]

Me too! It would suck if people with terrible (or no) internet connection couldn't enjoy the game in its entirety. I understand keeping stuff out because of spoilers, but we really should see a complete edition in a year from now. I tried to load up an old New Leaf cartridge to see if it works and the game wouldn't allow me to start it unless I downloaded the Welcome Amiibo update, but I couldn't update it without a SD card.

the toilet trick doesnt work in the first versions of ACNH, it would be a sin for nintendo to keep pooping away from the future generations

 

[Tako]

Someone help me understand this because I'm really having trouble wrapping my mind around it.

Why is everyone constantly in a rush to get millions or billions of bells..? What else is there to pay for with so much money after you've paid off all your house loans? The cost of items aren't too bad, I've seen a few items in the store selling for 300,000 before but it's not like you need millions to buy them. And relocating buildings will not cost more than 100,000.

Similarly, bridges and inclines can only be ordered once a day and it's completely possible to get even the most expensive ones paid off in a day or two.

So I'm really not getting why everyone is so mad about this so called "nerf". I've never bothered with tarantula Islands or going to a stranger's island to sell turnips because I didn't see a need to. And I'm still earning as much bells as I was before daily after the patch.

What am I missing here?

 

[Lellyna]

I mean if your whole family loves animal crossing sadly mine there is a family subscription where we all split the cost for 12 months xD

Edit: There’s no reason to make millions and millions of bells and the stalk market has it’s limits yes turnips are good money but at what cost? You can’t store them you have to place on the floor and you only have so much floor space, yes you can place outside but then would you open yours gates knowing you got turnips outside, and also you have to make more then once trip which is time consuming and tedious if turnips was op they would nerf the amount that can stack in my opinion

 

[Jeremy]

Hi all. We have a few reports from this thread and I want to point out that we don't allow personal attacks towards other users. Many of the posts here have been directed at specific users rather than the topic itself. Some people can be more negative than others and we have certainly seen that over the last few months. We may all be Animal Crossing fans, but New Horizons is brand new and may not appeal to everyone in the same way. Out of the thousands of people here, we're bound to see some strong opinions once in a while. It's okay to disagree, but please refrain from targeting them. In extreme cases, we recently added a rule about constant negativity. This may be hard to determine, but feel free to report posts if you'd like us to look into it more. However, if you do believe someone is trolling, the best thing you can do is not post in their threads at all.

 

[Hay]

You're right!

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yo what app is this? Looks super useful! c: