uhhhh.. not exactly.
Ferguson: Your Thoughts.
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uhhhh.. not exactly.
That would be the police department that has ties with the KKK
Also this thread is not about america being racist or not but mike browns unjust death and the crimes of Darren Wilson if you would like to provide sources I'd gladly look through them and have a debate about the contents
-Apples-
Apple Imperialist
Now here is a question that this thread ponders. Is Darren Wilson worse than George Zimmerman? Both did the same thing. Racial profiling, shooting an un-armed black person in the teen years, and getting away with what they did. Who do you think is worse?
theyre both scumbags and i want to watch them burn. theyre equally as bad. why would you ask this question lol? you think just because zimmerman isnt white i would let him off a little more?
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Sukuna my beloved
They both took someone's life. They are both terrible people for that reason.
What exactly are you trying to prove?
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sway
^^^^
Zimmerman still shot a totally innocent kid who did nothing wrong other than walk in his neighborhood in the dark. Zimmerman preyed on Treyvon Martin and acted like a vigilante when it wasn't his place to do so, even after the 911 operator told him to back off.
Wilson is bad because he was charged with protecting the citizens of his city, not shooting them for allegedly stealing a box of cigars.
As far as I'm concerned, they are equal in guilt.
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Sukuna my beloved
I think that Apple may think some people think Wilson is worse than Zimmerman (because Wilson is white, and Zimmerman isn't.) It's certainly that way with my family.
-Apples-
Apple Imperialist
Well I think Zimmerman was worse. Even if they both did the same thing, Zimmerman already had a criminal record before. Then we hear about the incidents with his wife and girlfriend. Wilson was nothing like that.
I know I may sound uncivil if I say this, but I believed that the real bad guys between the shooter and the victim in both incidents are the people who radically support the victim. Not only they make the shooter (the one who defends himself) look like a hate criminal, they are also ruining the lives of people who opposed the victim for being a criminal. So I'm not taking any sides, but the ones who radically support one side needs to stop attacking the other side or those who are indifferent.
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Sukuna my beloved
I personally feel regardless of if you did anything before killing someone, as soon as you do kill a person, you are literal scum who needs to die.
Darren only because he's a cop and supposed to protect citizens not murder them.
Ah the Zimmerman case. Something I can actually contribute more to than "I don't know" because I lived in the area and knew a couple of the kids friends.
In Zimmerman's case, the man thought he was doing the right thing by protecting the neighborhood (regardless of what the kid actually did or not) and the kid wasn't completely innocent either. HOWEVER, it was proven the kid wasn't doing anything that night and his friends thought it to be excessively out of character for him to even be attacking someone else. He was mostly a pacifist. He wasn't completely innocent all the time, but I really think that was a 'wrong place at the wrong time' kind of thing.
Ocala/Apopka is a rough area of Florida. It's no Detroit, but drive by's and shootings/stabbings/murders happen all the time. In that case, I can see why Zimmerman would carry a gun with him. However, the man was also completely unstable, using it towards his own family and friends and being caught playing neighborhood watch more than he should have. When I worked in an acupuncture clinic up in the Apopka area, it was actually not all that uncommon to hear his friends and family had come in, and usually when you're getting needles driven into you, you're asked what's stressing you out. He was a big topic of discussion.
In that case, I think I can agree that Zimmerman should have been charged. And honestly the cases aren't all that unrelated besides the fact that one guy thought he was a cop while the other actually was one.
In Zimmerman's case, the man thought he was doing the right thing by protecting the neighborhood (regardless of what the kid actually did or not) and the kid wasn't completely innocent either. HOWEVER, it was proven the kid wasn't doing anything that night and his friends thought it to be excessively out of character for him to even be attacking someone else. He was mostly a pacifist. He wasn't completely innocent all the time, but I really think that was a 'wrong place at the wrong time' kind of thing.
Ocala/Apopka is a rough area of Florida. It's no Detroit, but drive by's and shootings/stabbings/murders happen all the time. In that case, I can see why Zimmerman would carry a gun with him. However, the man was also completely unstable, using it towards his own family and friends and being caught playing neighborhood watch more than he should have. When I worked in an acupuncture clinic up in the Apopka area, it was actually not all that uncommon to hear his friends and family had come in, and usually when you're getting needles driven into you, you're asked what's stressing you out. He was a big topic of discussion.
In that case, I think I can agree that Zimmerman should have been charged. And honestly the cases aren't all that unrelated besides the fact that one guy thought he was a cop while the other actually was one.
Well I can't argue with that, though I also don't remember this being stated or even implied here.
Though that being said, that mindset is just as toxic imo. There's plenty of scummy white people, but there's also more than a fair share of scummy people of other ethnicities. Which by the same token, there's also plenty of genuinely good people from all different backgrounds.
Racial profiling (especially against blacks) has become a heavy issue due to this and other recent incidents, but as a whole, the fair and just human rights treatment needed should apply to everyone; regardless of race, gender, religion, social background, etc.
Maybe in a millennium we'll have made actual progress with this, assuming we don't all cause our extinction beforehand.
-Apples-
Apple Imperialist
Now I hope that nobody hates me for simply supporting Wilson. I'm not supporting murder, racial profiling, or police brutality, but I still don't believe that Wilson did all that.
Why do you think it's humane to hate Wilson supporters?
Why do you think it's humane to hate Wilson supporters?
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nobody ever said or implied anything about that
like ever
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(at least here, I can't speak for other outlets)
nobody ever said or implied anything about that
like ever
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(at least here, I can't speak for other outlets)
why do you keep asking questions like this
Did you read a few pages back the sources and mounds of information? If you like I can quote the parts that pin-point murder, police brutality and racial profiling. Also I'd like sources on your side as well, why do you believe he's innocent? What news outlets have you been getting your research from?
Also, your question is far too vague to be answered properly.
While their are surely supporters I'd dislike, it also depends on exactly WHY they're supporting him.
But really, since when was simply not liking someone inhumane?
While their are surely supporters I'd dislike, it also depends on exactly WHY they're supporting him.
But really, since when was simply not liking someone inhumane?
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