Your views on assisted suicide?

[Buttonsy]

May I ask why? Its known now that a person will never overcome mental illnesses, especially those with more extreme cases of schizophrenia or psychosis. A lot of drugs out there for mental illnesses are very heavy sedater so if a person living with mental illness comes to the point of having no quality of life at all, and would like to end that suffering, why not?

Sorry if I'm butting in, but while there are definitely mental illnesses that are incurable, it's not impossible to have a good quality of life even with severe mental illnesses. I think that there is enough hope to improve your quality of life even with a permanent mental illness that assisted suicide may be an extreme option.

 

[Keen]

Sorry if I'm butting in, but while there are definitely mental illnesses that are incurable, it's not impossible to have a good quality of life even with severe mental illnesses. I think that there is enough hope to improve your quality of life even with a permanent mental illness that assisted suicide may be an extreme option.

Yes, in most cases quality of life is able to improved but I'm talking the extreme cases where a person cannot come out of psychosis. I have two clients that come to mind when I think about cases like this. One sees purple demon cats and is terrified of them, the other sleeps 22 out of 24 hours a day. One is on meds while the other is not. I believe any person should have the right to end their life when they are being tortured by such illnesses.

 

[Red Cat]

Yes, in most cases quality of life is able to improved but I'm talking the extreme cases where a person cannot come out of psychosis. I have two clients that come to mind when I think about cases like this. One sees purple demon cats and is terrified of them, the other sleeps 22 out of 24 hours a day. One is on meds while the other is not. I believe any person should have the right to end their life when they are being tortured by such illnesses.

I don't know how someone sees purple demon cats of all the hallucinations a person could have...

Sleeping 22 out of 24 hours a day is better than sleeping 24 out of 24 hours a day.

 

[Red Cat]

Double post...

I could use some assisted suicide right now because Teddy Bridgewater tore his ACL and the Vikings are screwed before the season even starts.

 

[visibleghost]

there are plenty of mental illnesses that cannot be cured through therapy or medication. people with borderline are turned away by psychiatrists because they are deemed too hard to treat / lost causes. people with schizophrenia and psychosis not only struggle with a debilitating illness but also persecuted by society

if people want to commit suicide they'll find a way, whether it's legal or illegal, whether it's assisted or not. euthanasia would just give them the opportunity to do it in a less painful way, and feel validated in their struggle, rather than feeling like their illness is less valid than a physical illness (which is how society treats mental illness anyway)

Yes ik there are incureable mental illnesses too. but people w/ those illnesses can still have good lives. buuut i'm nit saying that people have to keep living if they don't want to. i just think that if the government would support suicide for people who srent literally dying - then that's kind of like encouraging it imo..?
like, to me, that just sounds like giving up on people without trying to help them. if people wish to stop living there are ways to die without the government helping u out. i get that there are plenty of issues with suicides that aren't assisted (traumatizing for other people, someone has to clean it up, trains or other stuff might be late, some ppl decide to take others with them while committing suicide) and that's definitely problematic. those suicides would probably go down if euthanasia was legal.

yeah i knlw many people will find a way to commit suicide if they can't get help to do it. that's not the problem, the problem is that people who were stopped from killing themselves because it was hard to find a good way to do it would commit suicide because they could get euthanasia.
is it right to keep people who want to die alive? no. but in my opinion it is not right to help them kill themselves either, especially if they are in a situation that could get better for them.

there are just too many problems with euthanasia imo. idk but basically i dont think itms a good solution to give up on people who already are a very targeted group.

 

[Psydye]

I'm too lazy to read everyone's responses, but yes, I do believe in assisted suicide!

 

[Hopeless Opus]

i'm against assisted suicide when it is not because of a disease that will lead to death (like in cases with mental illness) because it would only make it easier for mentally ill people to kill themselves. that's not what humanity, as a whole, should want. instead of helping people commit suicide it's much better to get them help :')

honestly some people are beyond the help of others, which is why people go through years of therapy but still end up committing suicide. there's ways of repairing and mending a broken person but mending a person with a mental illness can be very difficult. plus, certain mental illnesses can drive a person to suicide on its own. it's hard to accept but this world is just really cruel and some people like i already said just can't be helped. suicide rates might rise but i don't think anyone should have to suffer. if someone commits suicide or not it's not my decision, i of course would always attempt to help that person in any way possible to talk down their suicidal thoughts but sometimes it gets too much for people. and it just utterly sucks that anyone in this world has to suffer at all.

 

[visibleghost]

honestly some people are beyond the help of others, which is why people go through years of therapy but still end up committing suicide. there's ways of repairing and mending a broken person but mending a person with a mental illness can be very difficult. plus, certain mental illnesses can drive a person to suicide on its own. it's hard to accept but this world is just really cruel and some people like i already said just can't be helped. suicide rates might rise but i don't think anyone should have to suffer. if someone commits suicide or not it's not my decision, i of course would always attempt to help that person in any way possible to talk down their suicidal thoughts but sometimes it gets too much for people. and it just utterly sucks that anyone in this world has to suffer at all.

yes i know and understand that, i'm not trying to say that people should never commit suicide or anything like that. but i think there can be a lot of problems with assisted suicide so idk.

 

[Hopeless Opus]

yes i know and understand that, i'm not trying to say that people should never commit suicide or anything like that. but i think there can be a lot of problems with assisted suicide so idk.

i get you. personally if i had a hand in an assisted suicide i'd die of guilt but if others want to do it then i mean i can't stop them or anything really

 

[visibleghost]

i get you. personally if i had a hand in an assisted suicide i'd die of guilt but if others want to do it then i mean i can't stop them or anything really

yeah it really is a difficult issue tbh. i am kind of split because i see good and bad things about both legalizing it and not legalizing it but idk

 

[RedTropicalPeachyFish]

I feel this is impractical proposition, based on the theory which doesn't consider actual risk that someone who'd take advantage of it could be involved if this is really legalized.
Plus, the thought that we human SHOULD BE ABLE TO control life is wrong. That's what I think of. There are really, really lots of unreasonable things while have to face to we live life. And things keep changing. What we can find in there...even if "I" was terminally ill, is exactly the meaning we live life.

 

[LinkToTheWorld]

I don't think everybody can really make their minds up on something like this a lot of the time until faced with that situation. It's just not a black and white thing. I can see how legalising it could potentially cause problems if things were not handled correctly, but under the right circumstances I think it should most definitely be available everywhere.
Switzerland manage things very well and have a good system in place, if that was used everywhere and everybody was reading from the same page I think any unwanted consequences could be avoided

 

[Chris]

I'm fully in support of euthanasia. Back in 2013-2014 I actually made a short film (25 mins) on the subject of a British man of sound mind who wanted to, but couldn't afford, to get the procedure done with Dignitas in Switzerland.

 

[Red Cat]

honestly some people are beyond the help of others, which is why people go through years of therapy but still end up committing suicide. there's ways of repairing and mending a broken person but mending a person with a mental illness can be very difficult. plus, certain mental illnesses can drive a person to suicide on its own. it's hard to accept but this world is just really cruel and some people like i already said just can't be helped. suicide rates might rise but i don't think anyone should have to suffer. if someone commits suicide or not it's not my decision, i of course would always attempt to help that person in any way possible to talk down their suicidal thoughts but sometimes it gets too much for people. and it just utterly sucks that anyone in this world has to suffer at all.

I see where you're coming from, but this is a dangerous line of thinking. Suicide can be a result of mental illness, but it is not a cure for mental illness. Yes, there will always be people who commit suicide, but making assisted suicide available for mentally ill people sends the wrong message to them at a time when they need as much motivation as they can get to keep going instead of an "easy" way out. It also creates a problem at the societal level where people could view assisted suicide as a "solution" to deal with mentally ill people instead of investing in treatment and other programs to help people.

 

[cornimer]

I agree with it. I think everyone should have the right to be able to die with dignity instead of spending months or even years suffering. But of course I think there should be regulations, like they should only be able to make the decision if they are of stable metal health and there is no chance of recovery.

 

[reririx]

I'm a nursing student and we speak a lot about this, along with many other ethical issues HCPs may encounter. I personally support euthanasia but to an extent. I believe it is the individual who has a say in their life, after all... the patient can decide what their treatment will be (e.g., some patients may be DNR or refuse to take their medications for whatever reason). We believe, in health care, to involve our patients in their care and respect the decisions they make in regards to their care. That being said, shouldn't we wish their desire to die? Obviously it is to an extent. Is the individual terminally ill, physically and mentally hurting a lot, and this one is really big... mentally competent to make an informed decision.

A lot of thoughts go into this type of topic. I again support it but I stress that I don't support it blindly. There are limitations and exceptions etc...

 

[KaydeeKrunk]

Same as you, I feel that it should be legalized but there should be psych evaluations and stuff that determine if the person is mentally well enough to make the decision. Because a lot of people who have lost the quality of life due to illnesses basically have to suffer until they die, usually with ongoing grueling treatments and such just to keep them alive a bit longer, so I think they should be able to make the choice to end it if they can't have the quality of life that's worth living for.