on the community? i dont know, i don't get involved in the communities. (im ace)
all i know related to it is that tumblr really hates us lmao
Why? I don't use tumblr.
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Why? I don't use tumblr.
on the community? i dont know, i don't get involved in the communities. (im ace)
all i know related to it is that tumblr really hates us lmao
Tumblr doesn't hate you. There's a small portion of people who are general jerkwads towards ace people (including ace people putting down other ace people) but it's not a very significant amount.
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quite a few people on tumblr think ace and aro people should be excluded from the lgbt+ community because we're "basically het" and don't face oppression.
Seriously, people are so ignorant. : P
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I am fairly certain nobody has ever been killed because they were asexual.
Were did that come from?
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They said that ace people didn't feel oppression, and I took the tone they had as "well that's not right, ace people DO experience oppression".
Which I just don't think is true.
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They were saying that people think we should be excluded because were basically het & we don't feel oppression, that's not what they believe, I think....
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i have never said ace people face oppression..? we don't. lmao what are you getting at i've literally written in the thread before that i know we do not face oppression
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Oh well forgive me for not reading every single post! God forbid someone accidentally misreads something!
Speak for yourself.
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wait what
i am
or....., do you mean that you think we are oppressed..? because honestly that's not the case. yeah we get called freaks or robots or weird, but no one is killed because they're aro or ace. no one is denied a job or called satan's offspring because they're ace or aro. we aren't oppressed because we are ace or aro, yes we are treated badly because of it but we're not facing "aphobia". most things that are said about ace and aro people is actually based on sexist and ableist ideas.
Discrimination and oppression are not the same thing. Ace people face discrimination and prejudice yes, but not oppression. Society isn't out to get ace people and kill them.
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I believe asexuals are valid and must be respected. I have many asexual friends, and it's a shame that they are barely represented in media.
but if ur not,,,sga or trans, ur not queer though or really in lgbt as there is no specific oppression, but that just my opinion tho.
They are many different types of oppression though, it doesn't always revolve around murder.
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Serious question, not trying to troll. How are you supposed to properly represent asexuals in media, while still having them be well-written characters that aren't solely defined by their asexuality?
I'm really getting the urge now to ask some questions. What do people that are part of the LGBT+ community actually think the goal/purpose of a community - like the LGBT+ one - is? To me, your comment makes it sounds like members of the LGBT+ community think a community is only there to comfort people that face oppression. I'm getting a very different vibe when I read comments earlier in this thread, explaining why having people around you that can relate to you besides accepting you is great.
When I read through all of your comments, it seems like there are a lot of, very different perspectives on what a community, like the LGBT+ community, her purpose(s) should be. And now I'm not saying it's acceptable that LGBT+ members are trying to exclude asexual individuals, but it's definetly understandable in my opinion, if all members seem to think the LGBT+ community should be there for a different reason.
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I highly doubt that asexuals are denied job opportunities, promotions, housing opportunities, or public services solely due to their asexuality.
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well yeah ace or aro people aren't queer. and i agree that it's weird that we're in the community that exists because of discrimination and oppression when we don't face oppression and the discrimination we face isn't as bad as trans people or sga people do.
but at the same time, i kinda think we should just be allowed to stay..? because, like, as long as we're aware that being ace and/or aro doesn't equal being queer or facing oppression i don't really see any harm in us being there? just as how sga people understand that just because they're sga doesn't mean they face transphobia lmao.
and kicking us out of the community kind of. ... i mean... it has already started a lot of negativity and drama and people being very "us and them" and, like, idk it's just really negative and bad..?
the community is so very big and as long as we i guess "know our place" i don't really ... . see why we're harmful.. lmao...
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well lol i'm not only aro ace, i'm trans too, and i still think it's good to have a community for acceptance and being around people that are like yourself. obviously with the trans community it's also about being able to achieve stuff, like getting rid of bad laws, giving us more rights etc which isn't a thing in the ace community. in the ace community it's more about trying to spread the word that ace and aro people exist.
so i guess if people think the lgbt+ community is there to stop the murders and stuff of lgbt+ people then ace and aro people don't really belong..? but from what i know the lgbt+ community is really big and varied and it can work to achieve a lot of stuff, ranging from trying to change laws, having pride parades, and just having nice support groups where everyone feels like they're alright and not broken. idk but yhhh ...
