What Are Your Political Views?

[-Apples-]

Not to derail the thread, but I hope this does not get into a bad argument like the villager wars on the AC forums.

Back on topic. I see that abortion is a controversy that will never be settled down to a compromise point. Same with gay marriage.

 

[Princess Weeb]

Not to derail the thread, but I hope this does not get into a bad argument like the villager wars on the AC forums.

Back on topic. I see that abortion is a controversy that will never be settled down to a compromise point. Same with gay marriage.

People are always going to have different opinions but it's getting better.
I suppose you could have said the same for racism pre-60s, though.

 

[Alienfish]

Not to derail the thread, but I hope this does not get into a bad argument like the villager wars on the AC forums.

Back on topic. I see that abortion is a controversy that will never be settled down to a compromise point. Same with gay marriage.

Well if the other wants to take away the rights just because you happen to be a woman.

For people against gays I'm not even gonna argue here

 

[Brackets]

I think the NHS is one of the best things about the UK and I really hope it doesn't get privatised. I would NOT want to work in a healthcare system that leaves poorer people unable to get the treatment they need, or have people worrying to go to the doctor because of bills.

 

[Alienfish]

I think the NHS is one of the best things about the UK and I really hope it doesn't get privatised. I would NOT want to work in a healthcare system that leaves poorer people unable to get the treatment they need, or have people worrying to go to the doctor because of bills.

This, or rich people getting all the help they can because they "happen" to be rich no matter how.

 

[-Apples-]

I think the NHS is one of the best things about the UK and I really hope it doesn't get privatised. I would NOT want to work in a healthcare system that leaves poorer people unable to get the treatment they need, or have people worrying to go to the doctor because of bills.

Would you mind waiting in line for healthcare?

 

[Dustmop]

Well if the other wants to take away the rights just because you happen to be a woman.

For people against gays I'm not even gonna argue here

Thank you. This is one of those things I'll just never understand. Laws that restrict basic freedoms and civil rights.

If it doesn't physically affect you, or obviously endanger the public, why should you care what other people do with their lives and their bodies?

Live and let live.


Though I'm not entirely sure where I fall on the political map these days.. little things just make me feel like I'm stuck in the middle. I'm for civil rights, but I'm also for things most liberals don't agree with, like bringing back The Chair?.
At the very least, stop wasting our sterile medical supplies on dead people.

 

[Alienfish]

Would you mind waiting in line for healthcare?

If it's handled and it gives me a better chance because I'm poor yes. It's not fair for anyone to go before in line just because they money. That's because I'm against making stuff private because then they know how to handle the thing in a bad way and the pay-to-be-cared for make it so only rich people can afford it anyways because both concurrence and they win on it.

 

[-Apples-]

I still oppose universal healthcare (also known as CommuCare). It's better privatized than socialized. And long waiting lines for healthcare is a major reason why I'm against CommuCare (portmanteau of communist and healthcare). Everybody needs healthcare. Doctors should not have a maximum wage. If no maximum wage appears, they will do as much operations as they can.

 

[Alienfish]

Thank you. This is one of those things I'll just never understand. Laws that restrict basic freedoms and civil rights.

If it doesn't physically affect you, or obviously endanger the public, why should you care what other people do with their lives and their bodies?

Live and let live.


Though I'm not entirely sure where I fall on the political map these days.. little things just make me feel like I'm stuck in the middle. I'm for civil rights, but I'm also for things most liberals don't agree with, like bringing back The Chair™.
At the very least, stop wasting our sterile medical supplies on dead people.

Yeah. If it was the other way around people would care much more because they are men and they can do what they want.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Everybody needs healthcare. .

And still you are for privatization. I sense a problem here.

 

[Princess Weeb]

If I'm going to be honest, at least at my GP the doctors are absolutely useless. I'd certainly not pay for healthcare to be turned away constantly by people that are too lazy to even bother looking into problems I have.

Maybe it's just my area but they are ridiculously stingy, have repeatedly misdiagnosed me/people around me or dismissed me/people around me while overlooking serious medical conditions.


(I'm not suggesting all doctors are like this, but certainly 99% of the ones I've come into contact with are, though)

 

[Brackets]

Would you mind waiting in line for healthcare?

No, if it's fair and everyone else is waiting in line too. Why should someone get quicker treatment if they have money, even though there might be poorer people who are even more ill? Plus, there's guidelines for these sort of things, in the NHS at least. Depending on your referral, you have to be seen within a certain number of weeks.

Also I'm not quite sure what you're saying about maximum wage, but I think it's good they have a maximum wage, so that a) they don't get ridiculous amounts of money and b) they don't have an incentive to rip people off and do unnecessary operations

 

[Alienfish]

No, if it's fair and everyone else is waiting in line too. Why should someone get quicker treatment if they have money, even though there might be poorer people who are even more ill? Plus, there's guidelines for these sort of things, in the NHS at least. Depending on your referral, you have to be seen within a certain number of weeks.

Also I'm not quite sure what you're saying about maximum wage, but I think it's good they have a maximum wage, so that a) they don't get ridiculous amounts of money and b) they don't have an incentive to rip people off and do unnecessary operations

Yeah why should anyone get before just because they have money, that's even more unfair than waiting in line.

Yeah the problem here is they get too little money actually.

 

[KarlaKGB]

No, if it's fair and everyone else is waiting in line too. Why should someone get quicker treatment if they have money, even though there might be poorer people who are even more ill?

u mean private healthcare, right?

 

[-Apples-]

No, if it's fair and everyone else is waiting in line too. Why should someone get quicker treatment if they have money, even though there might be poorer people who are even more ill? Plus, there's guidelines for these sort of things, in the NHS at least. Depending on your referral, you have to be seen within a certain number of weeks.

Also I'm not quite sure what you're saying about maximum wage, but I think it's good they have a maximum wage, so that a) they don't get ridiculous amounts of money and b) they don't have an incentive to rip people off and do unnecessary operations

The maximum wages are the reason why healthcare waiting lines are long. With a maximum wage, they would work up to it, then stop when they achieve it. They try to do as little as possible, which is why waiting lines are so long.

 

[Brackets]

The maximum wages are the reason why healthcare waiting lines are long. With a maximum wage, they would work up to it, then stop when they achieve it. They try to do as little as possible, which is why waiting lines are so long.

That is NOT true, that's not how wages work. So do you think doctors just get to I don't know, October or something and then just stop working for the year? Of course not, that it ridiculous. If a doctor does no work they won't get paid, they'll get fired. Doctors are very busy and most do as much as they can to treat people, as do the nurses and physios and all the staff.

 

[-Apples-]

That is NOT true, that's not how wages work. So do you think doctors just get to I don't know, October or something and then just stop working for the year? Of course not, that it ridiculous. If a doctor does no work they won't get paid, they'll get fired. Doctors are very busy and most do as much as they can to treat people, as do the nurses and physios and all the staff.

I'm talking per day, not per year or per month.

 

[Brackets]

I'm talking per day, not per year or per month.

You obviously have no idea how it works. Most doctors, at least at the hospital I work at, are in all day or night. They're not paid by the patient. They have a yearly salary. They work until all their patients are tended to, or until their shift ends and in that case the patients are handed over to the next shift of doctors.

 

[-Apples-]

You obviously have no idea how it works. Most doctors, at least at the hospital I work at, are in all day or night. They're not paid by the patient. They have a yearly salary. They work until all their patients are tended to, or until their shift ends and in that case the patients are handed over to the next shift of doctors.

Here in the US, they are paid by patient. They don't operate on people all the time just to be rich. They operate on a lot because everybody needs healthcare.

 

[Brackets]

Here in the US, they are paid by patient. They don't operate on people all the time just to be rich. They operate on a lot because everybody needs healthcare.

That makes no sense? You're saying everyone needs healthcare but your society makes people PAY for their healthcare. Doctors in your country are paid by patient, so that means they're probably more likely to operate more so that they will be rich...Here, the doctors are usually paid the same no matter what, so they do their best for the patient. Doctors are much less well off here.