How GORGEOUS is Caitlyn Jenner?!?

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overall I'm happy someone, even at the age of 65, is finally able to live their life the way they want to. I'm sure it must have been so hard to be so much in the media because of your family. it definitely took a lot of courage, I'm happy for her and the overall positive support and reaction she's receiving. better late than never, she can finally live.

transgendered people don't affect my life, I have no reason to have any type of animosity towards them. anyone that finds disgust in a persons lifestyle, a lifestyle that doesn't affect or harm the life of others, is very silly.
but people have a right to an opinion, theres also a bad side to every beautiful right, and freedom of speech literally means a freedom to believe and say what you feel. I understand how defensive people are getting over PoisonMushrooms opinion but it's his opinion and even though most of us wish it would change, we can't make it. That's just how some people are raised and view it.
my parents are homophobic and find this Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner story "absolutely disgusting and sick" but I'm not going to hate my own parents for this view. I mean why? that's them. that's not me. I still love them for all they do for me.
 
Tessie said:
overall I'm happy someone, even at the age of 65, is finally able to live their life the way they want to. I'm sure it must have been so hard to be so much in the media because of your family. it definitely took a lot of courage, I'm happy for her and the overall positive support and reaction she's receiving. better late than never, she can finally live.

transgendered people don't affect my life, I have no reason to have any type of animosity towards them. anyone that finds disgust in a persons lifestyle, a lifestyle that doesn't affect or harm the life of others, is very silly.
but people have a right to an opinion, theres also a bad side to every beautiful right, and freedom of speech literally means a freedom to believe and say what you feel. I understand how defensive people are getting over PoisonMushrooms opinion but it's his opinion and even though most of us wish it would change, we can't make it. That's just how some people are raised and view it.
my parents are homophobic and find this Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner story "absolutely disgusting and sick" but I'm not going to hate my own parents for this view. I mean why? that's them. that's not me. I still love them for all they do for me.
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u see a just because someone went to prison doesnt mean he hasnt done good things
 
Enderwoman said:
This thread has gotten really bad, no offense to anybody posting in here but there just seems to be a whole lot of ignorance concerning trangender people and gender identity here. People saying stuff like "who cares" "she's only doing this for attention" really get on my nerves. If you don't see this as something worth talking about then don't talk about it.



This is where it all went wrong. This is all your fault.

Why are you even posting here? If you don't agree with it, then go away. You're acting really badly. If you think Gender Dysphoria is wrong then you're the one who needs help, buddy.

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And you, shut up
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Jet fuel can't melt steel beams m8
 
Tessie said:
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wat?
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basically what im saying is just because someone has an opinion that is unpopular or wrong doesn't mean that a person is terrible and should die.

just because someone did something wrong and went to prison, doesn't necessarily mean that they haven't done good in the world

we all do stupid things and make bad decisions, but if we seriously treat each other like we're terrible for those things, it just creates an atmosphere of hate and nothing will progress
 
Well if your opinion is disrespecting other people, then it is clearly not a very good opinion to have. But if you don't mind seeming like an inconsiderate person just because of your beliefs and your attitudes towards certain people, then fine. x3

Also, why are people defending what PoisonMushrooms said or whoever else? Sorry but if you're on their side then you are surely just as bad. TO be honest, if you are disrespectful of other people and their choices in life (which aren't even affecting you), then you aren't a very nice person. And yes, bad people CAN do good things. That still doesn't justify their opinions, though. Just my thoughts on the matter, since it is upsetting to see so many people just stirring arguments like this all the time. We should all at least be respectful of one another, and respectfully debate our opinions...
 
Celestefey said:
Well if your opinion is disrespecting other people, then it is clearly not a very good opinion to have. But if you don't mind seeming like an inconsiderate person just because of your beliefs and your attitudes towards certain people, then fine. x3

Also, why are people defending what PoisonMushrooms said or whoever else? Sorry but if you're on their side then you are surely just as bad. TO be honest, if you are disrespectful of other people and their choices in life (which aren't even affecting you), then you aren't a very nice person. And yes, bad people CAN do good things. That still doesn't justify their opinions, though. Just my thoughts on the matter, since it is upsetting to see so many people just stirring arguments like this all the time. We should all at least be respectful of one another, and respectfully debate our opinions...
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yes we should respect one another, but the world is a cruel place filled with many gators
 
this thread is a mess

i think people really tend to forget about the poor trans people who will never be able to afford this surgery. yes im absolutely glad about caitlyn. im proud of her. but everyone tends to forget about the ones who dont pass, about the ones who cant afford surgery, about the ones who arent already famous.

i really want to get surgery, but i know ill never be able to afford it no matter what i do. and this is a story for many other trans people.

i just hope while were cheering for visibility we dont forget the rest who cant pass.
 
I came here to be like 'YASSS' but I had a feeling skipping to the last page there would be some discrepancies.

Anyway! I am so glad she is finally doing what is right for her after 65 years! Imagine. She looks great and you know we're going to see a whole new life in her.
 
justice said:
this thread is a mess

i think people really tend to forget about the poor trans people who will never be able to afford this surgery. yes im absolutely glad about caitlyn. im proud of her. but everyone tends to forget about the ones who dont pass, about the ones who cant afford surgery, about the ones who arent already famous.

i really want to get surgery, but i know ill never be able to afford it no matter what i do. and this is a story for many other trans people.

i just hope while were cheering for visibility we dont forget the rest who cant pass.
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I never really thought about that, until I started reading comments like yours on this thread.

That's another positive that comes from a celebrity transitioning...it gets people to have conversations and learn.

I really hope you find a way to get the surgery at some point, if that's what would make you happy. And if not, I hope you find happiness and self-acceptance in who you are, no matter what. <3

(I hope that doesn't sound preachy. I tell myself this every day too. Like most people, I'm always trying to improve myself to my ideal of who I'd like to be too. I always have to stop and remind myself that along the way, I'm still a worthy, valid person, just as I am. It's kind of the paradox between accepting yourself as you are and also trying always to be just a little better version everyday.)
 
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