How GORGEOUS is Caitlyn Jenner?!?

[EpicGamer12]

ur a horrible person for defending people who are transphobic

I never defended people who are transphobic. I defined that most of the people in this thread are not transphobic for having a differing opinion than you. If they were out for your blood or verbally abusing you, they would be transphobic. But they are not.

There you go, I put it into little kid terms for the baby

 

[Ashtot]

says the person who thinks it's hilarious to use gender identities and sexualities as a joke. because haha, people suffering from dysphoria and trying to figure their identity out is SO funny right? :)

im not making fun of everyone and the fact that u think im joking about this is triggering me

 

[Capella]

im not making fun of everyone and the fact that u think im joking about this is triggering me

"i am an asexual genderfluid divine oak kin, pls respect me for who i am and i will make sure you wont be smited once i escape my human prison"


Ok

 

[JellyDitto]

"i am an asexual genderfluid divine oak kin, pls respect me for who i am and i will make sure you wont be smited once i escape my human prison"


Ok

Please, dear god, tell me that you don't take other-kin seriously. Please.

 

[Capella]

Please, dear god, tell me that you don't take other-kin seriously. Please.

 

[JellyDitto]

And?

 

[Bowie]

I'm not saying names but there are users here who need to quit being so ridiculous.

 

[LyraVale]

I never defended people who are transphobic. I defined that most of the people in this thread are not transphobic for having a differing opinion than you. If they were out for your blood or verbally abusing you, they would be transphobic. But they are not.

There you go, I put it into little kid terms for the baby

I understand your definition, but I don't agree with a part of it. You're saying that someone who THINKS homophobic thoughts is not to be called out for it because they are not ACTING on those thoughts by physically attacking others. I suppose I see your point there, people have a right to whatever they think or believe.

But you can hurt people without physically assaulting them. What if someone writes "Trans people are wrong. There's something wrong with them. I think they're disgusting." How do you suppose that would make a trans person, or someone who is confused about their gender, or someone who has a friend/family/loved one who is going through it, feel?

I appreciate that you're defending everyone having a right to their own opinion. I just hope you understand why phrases like the one I said above are really hurtful, and cause people to be outraged when they hear those opinions.

For the person who is expressing their opposition, it's just an opinion they are sharing. Their belief.
For the trans person, it's their entire identity and possibly their entire life. The stakes are very high! That's not an easy criticism to take, and say "oh well, that's someone's opinion."

 

[Ashtot]

I understand your definition, but I don't agree with a part of it. You're saying that someone who THINKS homophobic thoughts is not to be called out for it because they are not ACTING on those thoughts by physically attacking others. I suppose I see your point there, people have a right to whatever they think or believe.

But you can hurt people without physically assaulting them. What if someone writes "Trans people are wrong. There's something wrong with them. I think they're disgusting." How do you suppose that would make a trans person, or someone who is confused about their gender, or someone who has a friend/family/loved one who is going through it, feel?

I appreciate that you're defending everyone having a right to their own opinion. I just hope you understand why phrases like the one I said above are really hurtful, and cause people to be outraged when they hear those opinions.

For the person who is expressing their opposition, it's just an opinion they are sharing. Their belief.
For the trans person, it's their entire identity and possibly their entire life. The stakes are very high! That's not an easy criticism to take, and say "oh well, that's someone's opinion."

u cant cater to every person

people need resilience and need to learn to shrug off when people are mean to them i know it shouldnt happen but its the world we live in

 

[rev1175]

I'm not saying names but there are users here who need to quit being so ridiculous.

I agree. For both sides of this argument, really.

 

[PoizonMushro0m]

I'm not saying names but there are users here who need to quit being so ridiculous.

^^^^^^^^So much this^^^^^^^^

 

[Improv]

^^^^^^^^So much this^^^^^^^^

I am done with this discussion.

ok.

 

[Ashtot]

ok.

i didnt realize it was illegal for someone to change their mind

 

[Mahoushoujo]

this is a mess lmao stop being transphobic

 

[Brielle]

She isn't hot but good for her, y'know?

 

[Brackets]

I honestly could not care less about anything related to Jenner/Kardashian/whatever. I'm not going to pretend to like something just because of some "equality" in a magazine for more celebrity garbage.

inb4thetriggering

i think some people forget she was an olympic gold medalist. yeah the rest of that family don't have much to say for themselves but at least caitlyn achieved something

and that fact that she's high profile and famous BEFORE the change I think will help raise awareness and hopefully make a change

 

[Fearthecuteness]

I'm not saying names but there are users here who need to quit being so ridiculous.

I'm now rememebering why I don't come on this site that often.

But on topic, I do think she looked amazing but I'm not surprised. When you have as much as she does it's not exactly hard to get the best surgeons and makeup artists to make you look amazing. I'm not saying as a way to talk down about her but it's true and I don't blame her for making herself the best looking as she can be.
I did see a post on tumblr about how so many people are comparing her looks to Jessica Lange from american horror story and Jessica thinks it's wonderful. I can definitely see that because they both look similar and equially as beautiful. I hope I look even half as good as them two when I'm in my 60s.

 

[Cory]

Ashton ur my hero

 

[EpicGamer12]

I understand your definition, but I don't agree with a part of it. You're saying that someone who THINKS homophobic thoughts is not to be called out for it because they are not ACTING on those thoughts by physically attacking others. I suppose I see your point there, people have a right to whatever they think or believe.

But you can hurt people without physically assaulting them. What if someone writes "Trans people are wrong. There's something wrong with them. I think they're disgusting." How do you suppose that would make a trans person, or someone who is confused about their gender, or someone who has a friend/family/loved one who is going through it, feel?

I appreciate that you're defending everyone having a right to their own opinion. I just hope you understand why phrases like the one I said above are really hurtful, and cause people to be outraged when they hear those opinions.

For the person who is expressing their opposition, it's just an opinion they are sharing. Their belief.
For the trans person, it's their entire identity and possibly their entire life. The stakes are very high! That's not an easy criticism to take, and say "oh well, that's someone's opinion."

I already said in my previous post that it includes verbal abuse as well.

edit: not to mention that getting offended by someone disagreeing with your lifestyle is one of the most hypocritical things you can do. There are so many examples of different lifestyles that some people may agree with and some people may disagree with. Looking at Muslims for example, you get so much hate for belonging to a religion that has been known to cause problems if done on the extremist side. People attack their lifestyle all the time (usually because they don't actually know the Muslim people directly) and no one seems to defend them. But when it's here and you know the people, it's apparently completely different. Just remember that you CAN believe whatever you want, but you are NOT entitled to anything. You can act entitled and self centered, but no one will take you seriously in the real world.

 

[Enderwoman]

This thread has gotten really bad, no offense to anybody posting in here but there just seems to be a whole lot of ignorance concerning trangender people and gender identity here. People saying stuff like "who cares" "she's only doing this for attention" really get on my nerves. If you don't see this as something worth talking about then don't talk about it.

Spoiler: Warning: May offend some audiences...

I think I might be the first on this thread, but I found what he did disgusting. Sex change or not, you are still your previous gender to me. If you feel you need to change your gender, you just need to seek help. The publicity is definitely over-exaggerated and has been blown out of proportion. (I can't even go anywhere on the internet without seeing this.)

If you don't like what I have to say, I'm sorry, but this is the internet and I have every right to my opinions, no one can change them.

This is where it all went wrong. This is all your fault.

Why are you even posting here? If you don't agree with it, then go away. You're acting really badly. If you think Gender Dysphoria is wrong then you're the one who needs help, buddy.

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Ashton ur my hero

And you, shut up