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Fat Acceptance

It's a bit hard to stay civil when you created a thread that allows people to say how horrible they think fat people are, and then you have fat people obviously trying to defend themselves. I would suggest closing the thread if you're against people getting defensive and angry.
Literally no one has said fat people are horrible.
 
Literally no one has said fat people are horrible.

Yeah, no one has literally said "fat people are horrible" word for word, but this thread has plenty of people saying that fat people have "unstable" minds, and that we're lazy and that we're going to die. Would you not agree that that's hateful?
 
Yeah, no one has literally said "fat people are horrible" word for word, but this thread has plenty of people saying that fat people have "unstable" minds, and that we're lazy and that we're going to die. Would you not agree that that's hateful?
You're going to have to learn to not take everything as a personal attack.

I honestly don't care if people disagree. Just that they behave.
 
Yeah, no one has literally said "fat people are horrible" word for word, but this thread has plenty of people saying that fat people have "unstable" minds, and that we're lazy and that we're going to die. Would you not agree that that's hateful?

I agree. But it's kind of bound to happen with these more serious threads because those people wants to be health professors and lecture every one of the site and look cool.

Yes there are a difference between having some fat and being completely unhealthy. Don't go bat**** on them though.
 
It's a bit hard to stay civil when you created a thread that allows people to say how horrible they think fat people are, and then you have fat people obviously trying to defend themselves. I would suggest closing the thread if you're against people getting defensive and angry.

No one is saying fat people are horrible people. Some people say it is often unhealthy, which is true, but that does not equate to them being a horrible person.
 
Usually when people can't afford groceries they're usually spending less than 5 dollars on a meal when they eat fast food.

Not in Canada, you can't. lol
In USA, of course. Everything is so cheap there.
 
Not in Canada, you can't. lol
In USA, of course. Everything is so cheap there.

I live in Canada.
For an average family of four to live in Vancouver, two people in the household have to be working full time making around 22 dollars an hour. This is only to afford necessities (rent, electricity, water, clothing, food)
The current minimum wage within British Columbia is $10.25 an hour.
A junior chicken costs under $2. $2 times 3 times a day equals $6. $6 times 7 days a week equals $42 a week per person for food.
Go to the grocery store, and tell me how much you can afford with $100 because I can guarantee you, you can not buy food with enough nutrients for under $100 that will last you a week.
 
I live in Canada.
For an average family of four to live in Vancouver, two people in the household have to be working full time making around 22 dollars an hour. This is only to afford necessities (rent, electricity, water, clothing, food)
The current minimum wage within British Columbia is $10.25 an hour.
A junior chicken costs under $2. $2 times 3 times a day equals $6. $6 times 7 days a week equals $42 a week per person for food.
Go to the grocery store, and tell me how much you can afford with $100 because I can guarantee you, you can not buy food with enough nutrients for under $100 that will last you a week.

(I would even take out the breakfast because you can buy a box of cereal for $4 that will last for a while, and you can eat so many better breakfasts than that if you actually bought groceries)
 
You're going to have to learn to not take everything as a personal attack.

I honestly don't care if people disagree. Just that they behave.

And you're going to have to learn not to speak so condescendingly. How do you expect fat people reading this thread to take these comments? If a person of color read "(Race of) people are unhealthy and have unstable minds," would you expect them not to react as if they've been personally attacked?

Being overweight has the potential to be unhealthy, absolutely. But at no point does a fat person deserve to be told they have problems, nor should their personal judgment come into question. That's what is happening in this thread. If you didn't want people to get pissed off, you shouldn't have made it.
 
(I would even take out the breakfast because you can buy a box of cereal for $4 that will last for a while, and you can eat so many better breakfasts than that if you actually bought groceries)

Yeah definitely, but then we also have to add the cost of milk which is insane.
We can also factor in things like you said, like instant noodles, frozen meals, etc. This is a rough estimate, but point being it is cheaper for a family that is struggling (which is 50% of the population in BC mind you) to feed their family fast food.

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And you're going to have to learn not to speak so condescendingly. How do you expect fat people reading this thread to take these comments? If a person of color read "(Race of) people are unhealthy and have unstable minds," would you expect them not to react as if they've been personally attacked?

Being overweight has the potential to be unhealthy, absolutely. But at no point does a fat person deserve to be told they have problems, nor should their personal judgment come into question. That's what is happening in this thread. If you didn't want people to get pissed off, you shouldn't have made it.

Where did someone say fat people have unhealthy or unstable minds?
Please stop assuming Jess is speaking condescendingly, she's been civil as have most people in the thread been.
 
Where did someone say fat people have unhealthy or unstable minds?
Please stop assuming Jess is speaking condescendingly, she's been civil as have most people in the thread been.

I've looked through this thread and can't find the exact post I'm referencing, so I can only assume it's been edited out. However, while I'm paraphrasing (obviously I can't quote what I originally read), the post said something along the lines of the user not "trusting" fat people, and not wanting to be friends with them because if they have such unhealthy bodies than "clearly" they have unhealthy minds as well, and are therefore unstable.

As far as Jess being condescending, condescension is based is perception. It's not "assuming" anyone is or isn't being condescending; it's how you perceive their comment. Jess saying "you need to learn to..." was a condescending remark, and that's how I perceived it.

EDIT: the post is on page 3 by a user names Jarrad.
 
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I don't really have an issue with fat people, since I'm not exactly skinny myself.

Though if you're like morbidly obese then it makes me question your psychological state of mind and whether or not building a friend ship with you would be a healthy decision for myself, since it can be quite damaging being around people that have little control over themselves.

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when you talk about Nichole Arbour then all of your points are good, regardless of who you are lol

like I could say she's a pile of **** and my self and lots of others would consider that a very "good" point about her :)

I believe this is the post - but they're saying "morbidly obese", not just fat people?
 
I've looked through this thread and can't find the exact post I'm referencing, so I can only assume it's been edited out. However, while I'm paraphrasing (obviously I can't quote what I originally read), the post said something along the lines of the user not "trusting" fat people, and not wanting to be friends with them because if they have such unhealthy bodies than "clearly" they have unhealthy minds as well, and are therefore unstable.

As far as Jess being condescending, condescension is based is perception. It's not "assuming" anyone is or isn't being condescending; it's how you perceive their comment. Jess saying "you need to learn to..." was a condescending remark, and that's how I perceived it.

If it's edited then usually it says it's edited, but regardless, mostly everyone in the thread has been p respectful, and I'm sorry that you've felt otherwise. I kind of feel like you're upset and you're viewing some of these posts in an...offensive manner? Maybe it's best to re-read some posts.

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I believe this is the post - but they're saying "morbidly obese", not just fat people?

Ah thank you crystal!
I think Jarrad here is just stating his perception of a certain population (the morbidly obese). Similarly, to how some people don't want to associate with some individuals whom they believe are partaking in extreme reckless behaviour. Note Jarrad said morbidly obese, not obese people, or simply just "fat" people.
 
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It doesn't matter if they're fat, morbidly obese, skinny, tall, short. That's the problem. The issue is that even morbidly obese people are still people and they don't deserve to be spoken about in this manner!
 
It doesn't matter if they're fat, morbidly obese, skinny, tall, short. That's the problem. The issue is that even morbidly obese people are still people and they don't deserve to be spoken about in this manner!

I agree that we shouldn't make fun of them and hurt their feelings, however, being morbidly obese is not something to be praised or be deemed as "okay."
 
I agree that we shouldn't make fun of them and hurt their feelings, however, being morbidly obese is not something to be praised or be deemed as "okay."
Morbid obesity is a medical condition just like any other, but if a morbidly obese person chooses not to lose weight, or can't, that's their business and their prerogative. It's not up to other people, certainly not thin people who have no idea what being fat in western society is even like, to determine whether that individual is cognitively sound or if they're worth positive attention at all.
 
Okay I guess it's also okay to let an anorexic person to slowly waste their bodies away as well since it's their body who cares if they're slowly dying it's their body I mean if it's okay to let a morbidly obese person to let their body suffer physical health issues then it's okay for anorexic people too huh?

Look people have died from both it's not an opinion it's fact but hey it's their body who cares about the people who care for them who desperately tried to help them But couldn't because the person reused to listen. But hey it was rude of those people to even try to help I mean it's not their body.

Also again with the whole it's their body thing but with another issue does this also mean we shouldn't stop someone from cutting their selves or burning their selves because if it's okay to let an anorexic or obese person to also hurt their own bodies then people shouldn't be told to stop Any other unhealthy habit

Cause that's what it sounds like
 
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Morbid obesity is a medical condition just like any other, but if a morbidly obese person chooses not to lose weight, or can't, that's their business and their prerogative. It's not up to other people, certainly not thin people who have no idea what being fat in western society is even like, to determine whether that individual is cognitively sound or if they're worth positive attention at all.

People don't have to be rude to them but I don't see any shame in trying to help them because you care about them. It's the same with any other medical issue, there will always be people who just want what's best for the people in question.

Also, it doesn't matter what body type you have, it doesn't allow you not to be able to comment or have an opinion about it because "you don't know what it's like."
 
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