Fat Acceptance

It seems the general consensus of this thread is that no one agrees with the idea that people who are "fat" are any less than anyone who isn't. (It would be ludicrous to believe otherwise) Everyone seems to agree with the notion of promoting a healthy lifestyle, while simultaneously not degrading others who don't appear "fit."
 
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personally, I've perceived a majority of the responses more light-heartedly, however what they have in common is the belief that being fat relies on the person's personal choices, whereas in reality, that's not always the case.
I think what everyone is trying to say - at least, if my perception serves me correctly - is that they would not judge someone for their size, nor do they encourage people of such size to feel shame for their body, but do believe that obesity is a common and important health issue that can lead to further issues, and that it's important that if someone CAN reduce these risks that they do, purely out of concern and not to pick on fat people.
Therefore, I think that these people are not being rude, but while accepting fat people, they also acknowledge that it is an issue and it shouldn't be promoted or celebrated, but acceptance of it should.

Then again, it probably is impossible to contribute to this thread without someone taking it the wrong way, and while I disagree, I can see why you'd be offended, and really hope that these comments don't make you feel bad! have a nice day c:

EDIT: this is referring to morbid obesity, being generally overweight is hardly an issue.

I can understand what you mean, but I would disagree with the perception that people aren't being rude, because they are. I would also disagree that most people are well-intentioned, and only mean to help. I think most people hate fat people more than they let on, and maybe even more than they themselves know.
 
I had no intention or arguing with you and still don't. You responded to me, I responded to you, vice versa. If you don't want to carry on the conversation, then don't.
Do you not see how that applies to what you're doing?
 
Double post.

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Do you not see how that applies to what you're doing?

Certainly, it applies. However, in each of your replies to me, you've been accusatory or asking a question, so I've responded accordingly.
 
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No, you've been hostile. To everyone. While everyone else has been patient.

My hostility stems from seeing so many people accusing fat people of being lazy and pathetic. Am I supposed to not be hostile? What is your recommended reaction for this scenario?
 
My hostility stems from seeing so many people accusing fat people of being lazy and pathetic. Am I supposed to not be hostile? What is your recommended reaction for this scenario?
Literally no one has attacked you. Several people have pointed out that you are taking remarks far too much to heart. In fact, the majority of this thread has been positive about FA. I'm not sure why you are so insistent on being angry, but this victim complex is going to start some sort of flame war and I don't want this thread closed because of that.
 
My hostility stems from seeing so many people accusing fat people of being lazy and pathetic. Am I supposed to not be hostile? What is your recommended reaction for this scenario?

Ha. The thing is the only person who ever mentioned fat people being lazy or pathetic was you. Those words only ever were posted by you in this thread.

What are you even talking about any more?

I see no hostility at all except coming from you.
 
Literally no one has attacked you. Several people have pointed out that you are taking remarks far too much to heart. In fact, the majority of this thread has been positive about FA. I'm not sure why you are so insistent on being angry, but this victim complex is going to start some sort of flame war and I don't want this thread closed because of that.

There are tons of people who are very fat accepting in this thread. That's correct. However, there's just as many who are chastising fat people for being fat. Almost every bit of acceptance in this thread has been followed by "but fat people are unearthly and slowly killing themselves." Maybe not word for word that exact example, but that's the general idea. And that's frustrating because fat people (or anyone) shouldn't have to justify their experience. Posts in this thread are giving the impression of "you can be fat, but also realize and acknowledge you're unhealthy." Why can't someone just BE fat? Why do they have to be satisfied with "being unhealthy"? These are things I'm still wondering and it's discourse I care about, seeing as I'm in the involved group. That's all.
 
Ain't got a problem with them, just don't claim benefits.
And don't blame it on other things unless you have a medical condition.
 
There are tons of people who are very fat accepting in this thread. That's correct. However, there's just as many who are chastising fat people for being fat. Almost every bit of acceptance in this thread has been followed by "but fat people are unearthly and slowly killing themselves." Maybe not word for word that exact example, but that's the general idea. And that's frustrating because fat people (or anyone) shouldn't have to justify their experience. Posts in this thread are giving the impression of "you can be fat, but also realize and acknowledge you're unhealthy." Why can't someone just BE fat? Why do they have to be satisfied with "being unhealthy"? These are things I'm still wondering and it's discourse I care about, seeing as I'm in the involved group. That's all.

Just stop. Stop making stuff up.

This has not been the case at all. Go ahead and prove it. Prove that for every accepting post there's a hateful one. You won't be able to. But go ahead. Do it.

Quote an accepting post.

Then quote a hateful one.

Accepting.

Hateful.

Alternating like that until you've quoted every post in this thread. You won't be able to because nobody here has said anything remotely similar to "but fat people are unearthly and slowly killing themselves."

If you're going to put something in "quotes" like that, you're supposed to be directly quoting something, not completely making up BS. If you're paraphrasing, just drop the quotes. But the fact that it's completely made up still stands.

Nobody asked you justify any experiences. We're asking you to take a step back, breathe, and then go back through these posts in a more rational, objective way. You're way too emotionally invested in this and losing your grip over it.

Why can't someone just BE fat? Why do they have to be satisfied with "being unhealthy"?

I said in my posts that you can't tell if someone is healthy just by looking at them or knowing their weight and I've also said that if you've chosen an unhealthy lifestyle that's all you just keep it to yourself.

Those were two separate statements. You're not paying attention to what you're reading, and you're lumping everything together in one pot, stirring it up, and making it into what you want to hear because you want a reason to be so angry.
 
if the person who is overweight accepts the health risks and doesnt mind being overweight, let them. if they're happy that way then let them be happy. its not your problem so dont make it your problem. if they dont want to be overweight, encourage them or even help them instead of judging them. its not that hard
 
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There are tons of people who are very fat accepting in this thread. That's correct. However, there's just as many who are chastising fat people for being fat. Almost every bit of acceptance in this thread has been followed by "but fat people are unearthly and slowly killing themselves." Maybe not word for word that exact example, but that's the general idea. And that's frustrating because fat people (or anyone) shouldn't have to justify their experience. Posts in this thread are giving the impression of "you can be fat, but also realize and acknowledge you're unhealthy." Why can't someone just BE fat? Why do they have to be satisfied with "being unhealthy"? These are things I'm still wondering and it's discourse I care about, seeing as I'm in the involved group. That's all.
You kee saying "not word for word." It is no one's fault or responsibility how you decide to interpret words. People have told you what intentions were time and time again. You refuse to accept the truth. There is nothing that anyone can do for you at this point.
 
Ikr. Me too. :P

it makes me sad :^'(
Also gasp I forgot to mention druggies and alcoholic guess we shouldn't help them either it's their body not ours or what about someone who wants to kill themselves should we help lol nope its their body if they want die why stop then it's their choice you should respect that.

seriously not everything a person chooses to do with their body isn't always good for it. And this includes being anorexic and obese

Also on a small note isn't it more nicer to be concerned and someone's health cause it shows that you really care about someone and Don't want anything bad to happen opposed from someone not giving a Crap at all

Also telling someone they could die is not saying they should die because they shouldn't but death by anorexia and obesity has happened. And yes they are people this is true we aren't saying they're not but like I said isn't it more better to be worried or is it better to not give a f!ck about someone's health?
 
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i dont mind it but i really dont like the skinny (or fat) shamers. i hate seeing those posts saying "men dont like skin and bones, men like meat on their women" like ok you just made yourself sound like a steak. but all in all i dont mind if youre overweight, underweight or just right. as long as you take care of yourself, dont put down others and you feel okay with it, do what you want :D
 
I'm sorry I didn't read the whole thread and comments but here is my take on fat acceptance. I think that fat acceptance shouldn't really be a thing because there has been body acceptance campaigns running for an extremely long time and "fat acceptance" should go into that category. Even if your body has some extra cushion that doesn't mean you are unhealthy or have an unacceptable body figure.

However, if you have some health condition that you happen to have because of having excess weight and can be reversed or the outcome can be prolonged then you should try to go the extra mile to change your lifestyle and/or daily habits to become a healthier person. This also goes for those that are on the skinny side. Being skinny doesn't automatically mean you are healthy, there is such a thing as being "skinny fat". I get extremely annoyed when people comment on other's health and how their weight is affecting it when the person speaking isn't in such great shape either. I think that people are kind of hurting standards as to what healthy is and what "too big" is. I've read a lot of articles and seen many posts and videos about fat acceptance and calling every "big" person curvy, there are very attractive, curvy individuals out there but when they are unable to say that they aren't suffering from weight related health issues we should not encourage this lifestyle. Media has encouraged and kind of brain washed us to believe that being stick-photoshopped skinny is acceptable, and now they are encouraging us that excessive weight isn't a problem when indeed it is. I know that there are people who have genetic related weight issues and I'm not at all trying to say that they aren't trying to be healthy.

In America, people are getting more accustomed to bigger portions and many don't realize how much energy they're putting in their bodies and how much energy they're using. I know I've become a lazier person due to some personal issues and a past relationship that was very limiting on me being able to do things on my own. I have been trying more often to change my eating and work out habits so I know that it isn't as easy as pie but it's definitely a good goal to go towards. It's very hard to convince other people, especially my family that they need to realize that they overeat and never exercise. I always tell my mom to at least get 2 lb weights to work out while she sits at her laptop but she just gets too distracted by her work. My grandmother takes a anti-depressant pill that is known to cause sugar cravings and makes her feel tired more often, sure she walks but she will want to sit down every 10 steps.

A lot of my negative emotions comes from the realization that our country is out of shape and there are so many people on their devices, eating ridiculous portions and not being as active as they should, I get especially sad when I realize that I'm falling into these bad habits and it's very difficult to get out of them once you have lived the lifestyle for awhile. Honestly in my opinion it's not necessarily bad if you're fat, skinny or somewhere in between as long as you're healthy or as long as you are trying to make a change to be healthy then I will be rooting for you.

Also sorry if there's typos.
 
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Why can't someone just BE fat?

let's turn this around a bit - since you seem to be offended by the dreadful oppression delivered by many posters, i'm going to make it about a similar situation, just a different weight (morbidly obese to harmfully skinny)
if an anorexic person is unhappy with their weight and going to dangerous precautions to satisfy themselves, and someone told them it wasn't safe, and that person said 'why can't I just be SKINNY?', the obvious answer is because it could potentially threaten their wellbeing and safety.

I agree that many people chastise fat people, but certainly not on this thread. I've seen people say 'morbidly obese people are unhealthy', but not 'fat people are unhealthy'.
sorry if you feel that way though, and have a nice day :)
 
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