Debate: Vaccines
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Mon the Biff.
hmm really? I thought they were saying otherwise, because they said it alongside GBS and autoimmune diseases, which definitely HAVEN'T been eradicated by vaccines. But if I have mis-interpreted, then my bad!
do you honestly think that people who are too young or too immunocompromised to be vaccinated are only in a nursery or a retirement home????????????????????????
spoiler they're not
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Mon the Biff.
please please be being sarcastic
because that's literally the same as saying 'i've never worn my seatbelt and i'm fine, i guess people shouldn't have to wear seatbelts'
Check your reading comprehension because not once did I state that just because I turned out fine, no one else should be vaccinated.
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Mon the Biff.
What was your point then? Btw do you have any medical reasons for not being vaccinated, because i really do recommend it
Am I not allowed to comment on my experience with the whole vaccination thing?
My mom is a doctor and never wanted me to be vaccinated. I don't remember her exact reasons.
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Mon the Biff.
well it would be nice to hear more. like why aren't you vaccinated?
Edited my post to include why. I haven't bothered with the flu shot or whatever because my grandpa's health went extremely downhill after he got his, so I've been wary. I've done my own research on the whole thing and for the past decade or so it's just been an on-going debate over it--I don't know why it's been so prevalent this year. I guess because of the random measles thing.
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Mon the Biff.
wow well ask her
seriously get vaccinated i don't know a single doctor who would advise against it
and i'm sorry about your grandpa but remember correlation doesn't always equal causation
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I know of plenty. When I have time to do my own research maybe then I'll bother. Until then, I'm not going to just go out to get vaccinated because it's the new thing to be all up in arms about over a rare disease more prevalent in children.
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Mon the Biff.
Mate, it's rare because people vaccinate against it
Ech I can't believe people really think it's not important to get vaccinated
What, do these people want measles and polio? I hate when people say vaccines cause autism because they DON'T. There is literally zero evidence of this and people need to stop ignoring facts
What, do these people want measles and polio? I hate when people say vaccines cause autism because they DON'T. There is literally zero evidence of this and people need to stop ignoring facts
Once upon a time, and there still is, evidence linking mercury and other **** found in vaccines to autism. You can't call people idiots for being wary of the ever-changing "facts."
The fact of the matter is that there's evidence for both sides of the argument. There's nothing 100% conclusive yet. You can't be putting people down for not being sure of what's right, especially people with little medical knowledge.
The fact of the matter is that there's evidence for both sides of the argument. There's nothing 100% conclusive yet. You can't be putting people down for not being sure of what's right, especially people with little medical knowledge.
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Dustmop
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Thanks for zeroing in on one thing and then telling me I have no idea what a vaccine is. That's cool. Now granted, most of my knowledge is based on vaccinations for animals given my history in vet medicine -- but my questions were brought up, specifically, because of the other comments in the thread. I stated that. Twice.
I mentioned Polio because Gardasil had "caused" Polio in a bunch of young girls last I heard. And death, but that's an aside. But of course, no one will every verify that it caused it, just like they say it's "entirely plausible and possible" that the Hep vaccine causes MS and there's a clear link between the two, but there's never enough "evidence" when it comes to vaccines.
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Mon the Biff.
No. Just no. I'm sorry, but not one scientific paper has shown that vaccines are harmful or related to anything like autism, brain death etc. It's all propaganda. Mercury? No scientific evidence linked the trace amounts with any side effects, and it isn't even used in vaccines anymore.
Nothing is 100% conclusive? Ok, let's try this again -
These are some children with polio. They are inside an iron lung because the disease would paralyse their chest muscles.
Polio is now almost eradicated.
But I guess there's not conclusive evidence that vaccines work.
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Mon the Biff.
Thanks for zeroing in on one thing and then telling me I have no idea what a vaccine is. That's cool. Now granted, most of my knowledge is based on vaccinations for animals given my history in vet medicine -- but my questions were brought up, specifically, because of the other comments in the thread. I stated that. Twice.
I mentioned Polio because Gardasil had "caused" Polio in a bunch of young girls last I heard. And death, but that's an aside. But of course, no one will every verify that it caused it, just like they say it's "entirely plausible and possible" that the Hep vaccine causes MS and there's a clear link between the two, but there's never enough "evidence" when it comes to vaccines.
Again, no studies have found links between vaccines and getting conditions. If i remember correctly there used to be a slightly more aggressive vaccine for polio that could very rarely cause polio, but they quickly altered it. Because there was actually evidence that they were related. Because doctors and scientists don't want to harm people, so they changed it.
And who exactly said it was plausible that Hep vaccine causes MS?
Correlation does not equal causation. Just to give an anecdote of this, I remember reading about a man who went with his young son to get his vaccinations (I think it was for whooping cough). However the queue was so long that he decided to go another day and went home. That night, his son died in his sleep. If the man had got his son the vaccination that day, he probably would have assumed the vaccine caused it. But unfortunately, horrible things like that just happen. People get autism. People get seizures. People die.
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