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Debate: Vaccines

Just gonna post these little things here that I got from a leaflet I read at the doctors today about the effects of mumps, measels and rubella in adults, please feel free to correct me if I get any of these wrong:
-A rubella infection of a pregnant woman within the first 20 weeks of pregnancy can be serious as it can increase the risk of miscarriage or the child being born with congenital rubella syndrome, which entails a range of serious, incurable illnesses. (Such as sensorineural deafness, eye abnormalities, congenital heart diseases, etc.) so the unvaccinated mother is also risking the life of their unborn child/lowering the quality of life of their unborn child, though the chances of the unborn child being born with congenital rubella syndrome varies from 51% (if the mother is infected with rubella in 0-12 weeks after conception) to 23% (13-26 weeks)
-Mumps infections in adult men can cause testicular swelling, which can lead to sterility. The symptoms are also much more severe in adults.
-Measles in pregnant women can increase the risk of miscarriage, stillbirth or premature birth.
Btw, I got this from an NHS leaflet so I'm going to go with this information being trustworthy, but if anyone with actual medical knowledge can correct me if this is wrong that would be good.

I wasn't the only adult going in for the MMR vaccination today (turned out I didn't need it, there was a fault in the surgerys computer system saying I hadn't had the vaccination at all but my paper records showed that I did, computers these days :P still got my tetanus booster though) there was a woman planning on having a baby and didn't want to risk the above things and a few people my age who didn't like that their parents chose not to give them the vaccine, plus a fair few school kids and babies.
 
my family doesnt rly do them and we wont start just because some butt is tellin us to

'MURICA. No one can take our freedom away from us! Vaccines?!?! The GOVURMENT! Won't do it! No one can take ma FREEDUM away from me! MURICA! MURICA!
 
i mean its not like its the hobo from the next alley over telling u to vaccinate ur children

doctors tell us to do it and everyone knows that doctors go through 5 years of medical school and 8+ more years of training in order to kill people
 
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doctors tell us to do it and everyone knows that doctors go through 5 years of medical school and 8+ more years of training in order to kill people

mango isnt vaccinated

mango is clearly autistic

therefore lack of vaccinations causes autism

QED

cya guys
 
doctors tell us to do it and everyone knows that doctors go through 5 years of medical school and 8+ more years of training in order to kill people

Those fools! I can achieve the same killing results with no school or training and a large hammer!
 
Forgive me for the dumb question but, say a kid doesn't get vaccinated for some bad disease, and he ends up being a carrier of said disease. This kid goes to school with a bunch of other kids who got vaccinated for this disease. Wouldn't their vaccines protect them from the kid that's carrying the disease?

I know there are unvaccinated carriers spreading stuff like measles and such, but if people are vaccinated, shouldn't they be protected?
 
Vaccinations need to be mandatory. Nt only are you risking your child's life when you refuse them, you are endangering those around you who are too young or weak to get a vaccine against the disease. It is irresponsible parenting.
 
Forgive me for the dumb question but, say a kid doesn't get vaccinated for some bad disease, and he ends up being a carrier of said disease. This kid goes to school with a bunch of other kids who got vaccinated for this disease. Wouldn't their vaccines protect them from the kid that's carrying the disease?

I know there are unvaccinated carriers spreading stuff like measles and such, but if people are vaccinated, shouldn't they be protected?

not 100%
 
Forgive me for the dumb question but, say a kid doesn't get vaccinated for some bad disease, and he ends up being a carrier of said disease. This kid goes to school with a bunch of other kids who got vaccinated for this disease. Wouldn't their vaccines protect them from the kid that's carrying the disease?

I know there are unvaccinated carriers spreading stuff like measles and such, but if people are vaccinated, shouldn't they be protected?

it was brought up some pages earlier:

No. Some people are either too young or too immuno-compromised to be vaccinated. They are therefore relying on herd immunity to protect themselves.
 
mango isnt vaccinated

mango is clearly autistic

therefore lack of vaccinations causes autism

QED

cya guys

LOL GG
and on the topic of post quality something something vaccinations something something everyone over reacts about everything
 
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Why is this even up for debate?
1.Vaccines are dead viruses. They can't hurt you.
2.There are worse chemicals in your snacks than in vaccines, which are in extremely small quantities anyway.
3. Andrew Wakefield, the scientist who originally claimed that vaccines cause autism has admitted to fabricating his data and has been completely discredited.
Not everyone can get vaccinated. Don't be an assclown. You could kill or seriously hurt someone.
 
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tHeres a reason its called a DEAD virus. It's not harmful.

This exactly. Like do people really think doctors are going to deliberately try and harm you with vaccines? It's depressing, so much work has gone into vaccines, they've been tested and proven to work yet people still believe the propaganda of wackos over people with actual medical and science training

Also, fun fact: as part of my degree we have to learn research studies and be able to evaluate and analyse research papers. Andrew Wakefield's paper was given to us to study as an example of BAD research
 
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I know, but it's still a virus and I don't want one in my body.

But what's going to happen when you contract the ACTUAL virus and your immune system hasn't been exposed to it before, and is lacking antibodies to help fight it? You're going to be so much more sick than if you had built up immunity beforehand by getting the vaccine.
 
But what's going to happen when you contract the ACTUAL virus and your immune system hasn't been exposed to it before, and is lacking antibodies to help fight it? You're going to be so much more sick than if you had built up immunity beforehand by getting the vaccine.

I'd get a vaccine for diseases that kill most of the people that come in contact with it, but for the others, no thank you.
 
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