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Debate: Vaccines

Annachie said:
Actually there's no evidence anywhere to suggest that vaccines EVER causes autism. The original paper was found to be full of holes and irresponsible research and was discredited from the Lancet.
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That's good that there is no evidence. It must've been a fallacy.

Saying that vaccines causes autism is like saying that riding an elevator makes you evil. I don't see how riding an elevator makes people evil (and no, nobody has said that before).
 
Apple2012 said:
That's good that there is no evidence. It must've been a fallacy.

Saying that vaccines causes autism is like saying that riding an elevator makes you evil. I don't see how riding an elevator makes people evil (and no, nobody has said that before).
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Yes, the whole autism thing was a very good example of 'correlation does not always equal causation'.
 
Pietro:)100 said:
I think they should be compulsory, unless the person has any special (religious ext.) reasons to not have the vaccine. It would be bad to force them. In fact maybe not compulsory at all! Just really highly recommended?
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There are a lot of good decisions people should make that we don't force them to because we have morals and respect their human rights.
 
Apple2012 said:
I don't see what's wrong with autism. I have ASD.

Giving vaccines will not always cause autism. That's to some cases. Some people say that it's occuring more often because they are being born too early.

In my opinion, I support vaccination because they did a good job on preventing deadly diseases.
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I never said it was bad... I just said what I said because that's seriously a reason why some people dont' vaccinate.
LoveMcQueen said:
Isn't that something you are born with?
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Lol, it's a "side effect" on vaccines - so most people don't want to take the chances ????
 
Pietro:)100 said:
I think they should be compulsory, unless the person has any special (religious ext.) reasons to not have the vaccine. It would be bad to force them. In fact maybe not compulsory at all! Just really highly recommended?
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I don't think religious reasons are good enough to put you, your children and other children at risk. It's like jehovah's witnesses refusing blood transfusions for their child on religious grounds, it makes me sick.
 
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Annachie said:
I don't religious reasons are good enough to put you, your children and other children at risk. It's like jehovah's witnesses refusing blood transfusions for their child on religious grounds, it makes me sick.
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The state doesn't own children though. It's the parents' decision to make.
 
gnoixaim said:
I never said it was bad... I just said what I said because that's seriously a reason why some people dont' vaccinate.
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My argument is not just for you, but it's for everyone who's deciding on whether or not they can have vaccines.

I read a few Bible verses about vaccination, but it said nothing about being vaccinated. But there are some religions that do not allow vaccines, which is sad.
 
I'm for vaccinations. What amazes me is the excuses these parents come up with when confronted with the fact that they are putting other children at risk.

In one interview I watched, when asked about this, the mother said she didn't feel bad at all because her children don't get sick. That they are incredibly healthy and have strong immune systems because she breastfed them. So they are obviously no risk to other children.

How reassuring.
 
I really don't understand why people would not get their children vaccinated. And the whole "vaccines cause autism" is a huge misconception. It's just the fact that when babies get most of their vaccinations, it happens to coincide with the time that babies begin to show symptoms of autism.

Furthermore, they need to realize that if they don't vaccinate their kids, its not only their child that they're affecting, but also the people around them who can contract the diseases.
 
I'm all about vaccinations. I don't understand why in the world we are still having a "vaccine debate" when these diseases have been eradicated by vaccines. It's so selfish that these parents would rather have a dead child than have one with autism, even though science has proven countless times that vaccinations aren't even connected to autism. The doctor who wrote the discredited paper has been stripped of his medical license. I don't understand why people would want to compromise people who are immunocompromised. The only way for them to fight is for people in their surroundings to be vaccinated. It's amazing how people in third world countries would jump at the opportunity to get a vaccination miles away. People are dying from diseases that could have been prevented.
 
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computertrash said:
people who dont vaccine are so dumb
like
???????????/
thats your kids life???????? not yours?????????/
why put them in danger bc of your strange ways of thinking

also this is funny (its from an episode of house)

[House walks away. Cut to the clinic and House is in an exam room with a young mother and her baby.]

Young Mother: No formula, just mommy?s healthy natural breast milk.

House: Yummy.

Young Mother: Her whole face just got swollen like this overnight.

House: Mmhmm. No fever, glands normal, missing her vaccination dates.

Young Mother: We?re not vaccinating.


Young Mother: [Takes a toy frog and starts to make frog sounds] Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. [Giggles]

[Baby smiles and giggles too]

House: Think they don?t work?

Young Mother: I think some multinational pharmaceutical company wants me to think they work. Pad their bottom line.

House: Mmmm. May I? [He takes the frog and starts to do the gribbit noise with the baby]

Young Mother: [Whispered] Sure.

House: Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. [The baby laughs] All natural no dyes. That?s a good business: all-natural children?s toys. Those toy companies, they don?t arbitrarily mark up their frogs. They don?t lie about how much they spend in research and development. The worst a toy company can be accused of is making a really boring frog.

[Young Mother laughs and so does House. The baby giggles again]

House: Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. You know another really good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins. You can get them in frog green or fire engine red. Really. The antibodies in yummy mummy only protect the kid for 6 months, which is why these companies think they can gouge you. They think that you?ll spend whatever they ask to keep your kid alive. Want to change things? Prove them wrong. A few hundred parents like you decide they?d rather let their kid die then cough up 40 bucks for a vaccination, believe me, prices will drop REALLY fast. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit.

Young Mother: Tell me what she has.

House: A cold.

[Cut to House leaving the clinic.]​
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Found it. hehehe. Figured it'd be on tumblar
 
Roshan said:
hhhhhh its all because of religion (inb4 huge **** storm because of my opinion) I think religion is bad. It kills people, it causes ****storms, real life ****storms, people kill other people because they have a different religion, people let their child die because of religion (like not giving them vaccines, let them die because god made them sick etc)

Tired of seeing it in the news
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good on you, m8. after all, it's not like stupidity causes all this and religion is just a dumb excuse or anything!
 
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