Sporge, Hobo love to think that he knows everything about me and Andrew. All of his information relies on his troll accounts and pretty much every bit of information he claims to "know" does. I like to see if Jyeforce post stuff about this but Hobo does.Mr_Hobo said:
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SilentHopes
Swag Master
I searched myself, and got nothing. I at least get my facebook when I use google
Actually that is an interesting thought, Google gets me my facebook on first hit... 2nd is a club at my school.... 3rd is wrong first name on myspace...Rorato said:
Cuil .... suggests I use a different last name changing an e to an o, then first hit is condos and affordable homes, followed by a site I never go on, and actually surprised to see.... and third is a news article for someone in baseball who has my last name...
SilentHopes
Swag Master
Well, you're doing better than me....Sporge27 said:
1st. Amazon.com
2nd. Pro Moto Billet
3rd. MetroplexG
4th. Peterborough League
5th. Some french gallery
Shadow Jolteon
Senior Member
The thing isn't their advertising itself, but the way they go about it. Their advertising, mainly on their own websites, has gotten pretty intrusive, cramming them in everywhere. The news of replacing billboards and other real-life with it in Street View is just insane, if you ask me. Plus, they don't provide too good a quality product for those who advertise for them off-site.Jak said:
For AdSense users, they give a snippet of HTML to put on your page that you are absolutely not allowed to edit, the punishment being barred from the advertising program. This normally would not be a problem, but it is because Google provides invalid HTML for their ads, which causes your webpages to look unprofessional and can mess with other things on your page, as well as making it a bit harder to develop client side scripts for your pages.
As for stimulating the economy, they buy the cheapest computers available and just swap them out when they burn out. It's an extremely money saving way of going about making servers, and it's pretty easy the way they have it set up. They're also trying to keep from paying electrical bills now, they've recently filed to become an energy trader, meaning that they'd essentially become their own power company for their own "private internet".
They're also going as far as to screw over other companies behind their backs, their own partners, mostly for the Android project. Not to mention they're becoming worse than Apple is with the iTunes App Store with Google Chrome OS applications, severely limiting their developers and doesn't seem to get that the point of HTML 5 is to finally be rid of all the different video formats, and no longer having to have your users install a bunch of plugins, such as Adobe Flash or Microsoft Silverlight, just to view certain webpages and use features.
_________________________________________________tl;dr version: I don't think there is a problem with Google making a ton of money, I just find their advertising to be becoming over-intrusive, and they aren't supporting the economy as well as you'd think, nor are they helping out web developers and other people who support them anywhere as well as they used to.
Google is still a nice company, and they treat their employees very nicely. They're just starting to go down a different path, and don't seem to know where to stop. Just look at what they've been doing to YouTube; they've made it glitchier than ever, and have crammed so many advertisements into the site that it's hard to navigate. Not to mention the obnoxious advertisements that now pop up inside of the videos at certain points through them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdSense#XHTML_compatibility
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/08/google_as_energy_trader/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/08/google_nexus_partner_friendly/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/24/google_chrome_os_and_native_clent/
Plugins are a core to certain internet sites, especially one like flash. Heck most of the time I bet you here people talking aobut playing flash games rather than something like games on the internet. Homestar runs off it if I remember right... I'm doing my capstone game in flash...
Inserting ads to where ads are in real life on there street view really doesn't seem that bad, an ads an ad.
I never found I minded the ads that much, but that is me. I honestly can't say much about YouTubes glitchiness as I never really got on it that much, it seems about the same to me except for the ad that pops up on the video, that does annoy a bit.
From that energy article it doesn't look like they want to avoid paying electricity so much as they want to make their own green energy, wind, solar, ect. Or buy only that electricity or something, either way lots of companies have energy divisions...
Let's see third article, I hate to say it but I kinda hate copyrights... let's people get lazy and prevents future improvements from occurring more rapidly. That third article is what brings this up and really the guy sounds fairly right winged... I still support net neutrality, at least its core (there are a few points in it I think can be changed, but getting the bandwidth you paid for no matter the program is what I'm concerned about). Here is what I like about google though, they do keep a lot behind closed doors but so does every software company out there. What google does is toss a bone to chew on for those of us into dissecting programs and making mods, some companies coughmicrosoftcough hardly ever provide something for free and open like that. C# is a language that you have to pay to use made by microsoft, its ridiculous. Apple has improved, but I'm still angry about my locked itunes songs I had to go through weird lengths to unlock to play on audiosurf....
I don't think I like this news site... it is really negative... they have some good points but most sounds more like opinion than based on evidence...
Inserting ads to where ads are in real life on there street view really doesn't seem that bad, an ads an ad.
I never found I minded the ads that much, but that is me. I honestly can't say much about YouTubes glitchiness as I never really got on it that much, it seems about the same to me except for the ad that pops up on the video, that does annoy a bit.
From that energy article it doesn't look like they want to avoid paying electricity so much as they want to make their own green energy, wind, solar, ect. Or buy only that electricity or something, either way lots of companies have energy divisions...
Let's see third article, I hate to say it but I kinda hate copyrights... let's people get lazy and prevents future improvements from occurring more rapidly. That third article is what brings this up and really the guy sounds fairly right winged... I still support net neutrality, at least its core (there are a few points in it I think can be changed, but getting the bandwidth you paid for no matter the program is what I'm concerned about). Here is what I like about google though, they do keep a lot behind closed doors but so does every software company out there. What google does is toss a bone to chew on for those of us into dissecting programs and making mods, some companies coughmicrosoftcough hardly ever provide something for free and open like that. C# is a language that you have to pay to use made by microsoft, its ridiculous. Apple has improved, but I'm still angry about my locked itunes songs I had to go through weird lengths to unlock to play on audiosurf....
I don't think I like this news site... it is really negative... they have some good points but most sounds more like opinion than based on evidence...
Shadow Jolteon
Senior Member
Plugins are a pain, to both users and developers. I don't mean all plugins, only those that are REQUIRED to view a webpage. The solution to this is making standards, so that when you write a webpage, the content works the same on all web browsers, without the need for a bunch of plugins. HTML 5 is meant to fix these issues, specifying a standard video format, and a standard way of including videos in a webpage, rather than the current way, which is rather sloppy, and there are several different formats used now, and many more that aren't often used, but still pop up. HTML 5 will have one video format as a standard format, which is being debated at the W3C between Mozilla (OGG) and Apple (H.264).
Normal plugins are fine, though, those that are for the end user and are not required for them to use basic features of the web. Flash isn't particularly a plugin considered in this (yet), since it is a proprietary format, isn't that great a format to use for playing normal videos, and is basically an animation application with slight programming aspects.
I usually don't mind advertisements much, myself, but when they are crammed into webpages in a way that's intrusive, especially in the case of animated sound-making ads, then I start minding them. I am actually for advertisements, since they are a main source of income for many websites.
Normal plugins are fine, though, those that are for the end user and are not required for them to use basic features of the web. Flash isn't particularly a plugin considered in this (yet), since it is a proprietary format, isn't that great a format to use for playing normal videos, and is basically an animation application with slight programming aspects.
I usually don't mind advertisements much, myself, but when they are crammed into webpages in a way that's intrusive, especially in the case of animated sound-making ads, then I start minding them. I am actually for advertisements, since they are a main source of income for many websites.
Here's the problem a standard stifles innovation, it limits people to a certain design that gets old and eventually obsolete. Besides that people war over standards all the time and get no where, its why there are so many types of linux, and why not everything is on windows, and why there is C++, Java, Python, ect.Shadow Jolteon said:
Shadow Jolteon
Senior Member
Standards don't stop innovation, they can speed it up, since everyone is working on the same page of standards. If it weren't for standards, we'd still be working like it were in the days of Internet Exploder VS Netscape, everything having to be coded for each and every single web browser and every version requires you to do it over again.
When you have standards like this, it means you can do everything easier and not have to ask your users to download a bunch of stuff, because it's already in the browser. Plus, companies can still work on new versions of the standards to submit to the W3C for debate on improvements to existing standards, since they'll likely be open-source.
When you have standards like this, it means you can do everything easier and not have to ask your users to download a bunch of stuff, because it's already in the browser. Plus, companies can still work on new versions of the standards to submit to the W3C for debate on improvements to existing standards, since they'll likely be open-source.
Ron Ronaldo
Seer of Heart :33
Ahh can't understand technobabble. @_@
It looks cool. It's a shame it doesn't seem to do images. (Or maybe I just didn't find the right button?)
It looks cool. It's a shame it doesn't seem to do images. (Or maybe I just didn't find the right button?)
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