Are you a feminist?

[Aniko]

What is a man, what is a woman after all? Biologically, physically and emotionally we are not all the same, we don't belong 100% to a group.

I'm told I'm a woman and yet I'm also told I don't look, act and think as one ??? What do you want society? Not the same thing as I do, that's sure.

 

[seliph]

Yeah English is my first language and I wouldn't have understood that. I've never heard those words before now!

AMAB - Assigned Male At Birth
AFAB - Assigned Female At Birth

English is my first language but even I'd get confused 'cause when it comes to words I'm like ??????what??????

 

[Reindeer]

I'm pretty sure no one is being transphobic, cisnormative sure but it's just way easier than saying "amabs" and "afabs" and is much easier to understand, especially for people whose first language isn't English or have comprehension troubles in general.

I think it's just people that don't spend their time being brainwashed by tumblr.

I have nothing against trans people. All the power to them. But I was speaking biologically. At that point you are just talking about the biological differences between men (those born with a penis) and women (those born with a vagina) and the physical and chemical differences they experience because of their natural gender.
Once you start talking about trans people, you're speaking about people in a psychological and/or social field. There's a difference.

 

[ApolloJusticeAC]

no

they all annoy the heck of me
can't we all be equal?

 

[marinamarina]

AMAB - Assigned Male At Birth
AFAB - Assigned Female At Birth

English is my first language but even I'd get confused 'cause when it comes to words I'm like ??????what??????

Oh that makes sense! Teaching new words to all the speakers of a language is very difficult. and then with gender stuff I feel that english is easier? because in a lot of languages everything is gendered (I know male is default but still) and I imagine it's much harder then, w gender neutral pronouns and such and idk what they do about adjectives

 

[Aniko]

I think it's just people that don't spend their time being brainwashed by tumblr.

I have nothing against trans people. All the power to them. But I was speaking biologically. At that point you are just talking about the biological differences between men (those born with a penis) and women (those born with a vagina) and the physical and chemical differences they experience because of their natural gender.
Once you start talking about trans people, you're speaking about people in a psychological and/or social field. There's a difference.

Not everyone has a penis or vagina at birth.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Oh that makes sense! Teaching new words to all the speakers of a language is very difficult. and then with gender stuff I feel that english is easier? because in a lot of languages everything is gendered (I know male is default but still) and I imagine it's much harder then, w gender neutral pronouns and such and idk what they do about adjectives

Like in French for instance, all of this is getting complicated, I wish it would be one pronoun for all, no gender at all.

 

[seliph]

Oh that makes sense! Teaching new words to all the speakers of a language is very difficult. and then with gender stuff I feel that english is easier? because in a lot of languages everything is gendered (I know male is default but still) and I imagine it's much harder then, w gender neutral pronouns and such and idk what they do about adjectives

Like in French for instance, all of this is getting complicated, I wish it would be one pronoun for all, no gender at all.

I was just gonna say while English is better I envy the languages who just have one pronoun for everything, though at least English isn't like French where objects are "masculine" or "feminine". Like why is this acid feminine, I will never know.

 

[marinamarina]

I was just gonna say while English is better I envy the languages who just have one pronoun for everything, though at least English isn't like French where objects are "masculine" or "feminine". Like why is this acid feminine, I will never know.

As someone who learned French I felt like it wasn't super fun to learn either, and at the beginning I would sometimes use female adjectives (cause that was what I was used to using) for my male friends and they'd get all annoyed haha. But yeah, I wonder how it goes for people who dont identify as male or female? would they use the masculine since that's default

 

[LethalLulu]

no

they all annoy the heck of me
can't we all be equal?

You do realize feminism means equality, right?

 

[Aniko]

I was just gonna say while English is better I envy the languages who just have one pronoun for everything, though at least English isn't like French where objects are "masculine" or "feminine". Like why is this acid feminine, I will never know.

French speakers don't get it either, chair is feminine, sofa is masculine, why? Who decided of that?

 

[seliph]

As someone who learned French I felt like it wasn't super fun to learn either, and at the beginning I would sometimes use female adjectives (cause that was what I was used to using) for my male friends and they'd get all annoyed haha. But yeah, I wonder how it goes for people who dont identify as male or female? would they use the masculine since that's default

I had to take french for like 6 years since it's mandatory in Canada and while it was easy it was suuuuper boring. But yeah I have no idea how they'd refer to nb people.

French speakers don't get it either, chair is feminine, sofa is masculine, why? Who decided of that?

Well I'm glad the French realize that they're ridiculous lool

 

[Aniko]

As someone who learned French I felt like it wasn't super fun to learn either, and at the beginning I would sometimes use female adjectives (cause that was what I was used to using) for my male friends and they'd get all annoyed haha. But yeah, I wonder how it goes for people who dont identify as male or female? would they use the masculine since that's default

I heard that some invented some new ways to say things, but everybody I know just don't bother and go with one or the other.
I think one of the new pronouns is "ille"...but it sounds the same as "il" so...I don't get it.

 

[wassop]

shouldn't everyone be ?

 

[marinamarina]

I heard that some invented some new ways to say things, but everybody I know just don't bother and go with one or the other.
I think one of the new pronouns is "ille"...but it sounds the same as "il" so...I don't get it.

Would they still use masc. adjectives and stuff? Like ille est heureux? that's just what seems complicated to me idk how they could change it, and I see that and I want to pronounce it "ee" like in famille which feels awk to me idk tho

 

[Aniko]

Would they still use masc. adjectives and stuff? Like ille est heureux? that's just what seems complicated to me idk how they could change it, and I see that and I want to pronounce it "ee" like in famille which feels awk to me idk tho

I have no idea, as I said most of people just don't bother even if they are no binary or use plural.

 

[dierefuji]

No, because:
a) It isn't needed in the first world.
b) I don't want to be associated with third wave feminists.
c) The term "feminism" implies exclusive rights for women, when there are problems many men go through, which seemingly all modern feminists ignore.
d) I prefer egalitarianism (see reason C).

 

[Aniko]

No, because:
a) It isn't needed in the first world.
b) I don't want to be associated with third wave feminists.
c) The term "feminism" implies exclusive rights for women, when there are problems many men go through, which seemingly all modern feminists ignore.
d) I prefer egalitarianism (see reason C).

I don't agree with that, there are still inequality in the first world.

 

[dierefuji]

I don't agree with that, there are still inequality in the first world.

Inequality? Yes.
Gender inequality? Yes.
Gender inequality against women? Next to none.
Gender inequality against men? Yes.

 

[Ghost Soda]

Absolutely.

c) The term "feminism" implies exclusive rights for women, when there are problems many men go through, which seemingly all modern feminists ignore.

AFAIK, most of these "man probs" are directly caused by misogyny. And feminism was started for women to get the same rights as men, we're not changing the name just because "wah wah, wat about mennn".

 

[seliph]

Tbh guys save your energy and don't bother with dierefuji lmao