Are you a feminist?

[Brackets]

Yes I'm a feminist. I never thought about it much before uni, but going from an all-girls-school to university gave me a massive shock at how women were treated and talked about by men. On my first night out I was sexually harassed by multiple men and I was just like wtf?!?

Another thing at uni that made me become feminist was how I'm treated in the medical field. My male colleagues are always treated with respect and are taken seriously, but patients often make dirty comments and flirt at me and other female med students and make me uncomfortable. I know this isn't too big a deal, I get over it, but it was just something that got me thinking.

And no, being feminist doesn't mean I don't care about men's issues or think women should be superior. For example I don't believe baby boys should be circumcised, and I don't believe women should get shorter prison sentences. etc

 

[Buttonsy]

Yep. Due to my disabilities, I cannot be a super duper active feminist, but I agree with the majority of intersectional feminist opinions and try my best to contribute to activism when I can.

 

[Reindeer]

How are women and men created differently? Anyone can do anything regardless of gender, women don't have any "strengths" over men and men don't have any "strengths" over women, nor does anyone else. I understand what you are saying but honestly there are no differences, other than how people are raised, society, etc. (and those need to go asap) but no biological differences in how we are created, at all.

Men are naturally stronger physically. If you look at world records held by people, in most categories men place better times and distances than women do (though there are some that women excel in more than men). This is also why officials might sometimes feel the need to verify a person's gender, because of the natural differences that occur in male and female bodies.
Psychologically there are also many differences. Men are generally more logical while women are generally more emotional. Women are better multitaskers than men are. There are more differences, which you can find here.
Bottom line is: biologically we are different, so people don't have equal chances. Men and women both miss out on opportunities that the other sex does get.



As for the topic on hand: I'm for equal rights for all people, within certain bounds (by which I mean taking into account physical and psychological differences). Nowadays I see so many stupid complaints (like manspreading) that just make me assume the people complaining about it are wholly uneducated.

 

[visibleghost]

Men are naturally stronger physically. If you look at world records held by people, in most categories men place better times and distances than women do (though there are some that women excel in more than men). This is also why officials might sometimes feel the need to verify a person's gender, because of the natural differences that occur in male and female bodies.
Psychologically there are also many differences. Men are generally more logical while women are generally more emotional. Women are better multitaskers than men are. There are more differences, which you can find here.
Bottom line is: biologically we are different, so people don't have equal chances. Men and women both miss out on opportunities that the other sex does get.



As for the topic on hand: I'm for equal rights for all people, within certain bounds (by which I mean taking into account physical and psychological differences). Nowadays I see so many stupid complaints (like manspreading) that just make me assume the people complaining about it are wholly uneducated.

alright but can you pls stop using "men" and "women" while talking about sex? it's really transphobic.

 

[Reindeer]

alright but can you pls stop using "men" and "women" while talking about sex? it's really transphobic.

I'm talking about their born sex. Unless you know people that were born without something that resembles a penis or a vagina, then I don't see how it's transphobic.
And if I say "male" and "female" it'll be called "dehumanizing".
So no.

 

[focus]

alright but can you pls stop using "men" and "women" while talking about sex? it's really transphobic.

how is that in any way, shape or form transphobic

 

[seliph]

I feel if I ever said that with the sexes reversed, I would get a good amount of backlash.


But I guess there's a difference between 'stuffing' and 'being stuffed'.

I don't think so but I haven't ever heard of anyone say "Men should be kept out of x because women flail themselves at them" so I'd just ask why you think that

Men are naturally stronger physically. If you look at world records held by people, in most categories men place better times and distances than women do (though there are some that women excel in more than men). This is also why officials might sometimes feel the need to verify a person's gender, because of the natural differences that occur in male and female bodies.

They aren't though, I know women who can ****ing bench press me. There are more stronger men than women because, again, societal expectations and gender roles.

Psychologically there are also many differences. Men are generally more logical while women are generally more emotional. Women are better multitaskers than men are. There are more differences, which you can find here.
Bottom line is: biologically we are different, so people don't have equal chances. Men and women both miss out on opportunities that the other sex does get.

Again, this is untrue. Neither sex is naturally more this or naturally more that, it is all based on how people are raised. Women are more "emotional" because they are socialized since birth to take care of everyone and be "nice" and "nurturing" and never make anyone angry. On the other hand, boys are taught that showing a teaspoon of emotion makes them weak. Because of these societal expectations that heavily influence the wiring of peoples' brains, it's impossible to study and prove gender (or sex) differences in regards to peoples brains work.

As for logic VS emotion (also known as left brain VS right brain), another myth. Literally everyone is primarily emotion-driven because that part of your brain always reacts quicker.

 

[Geoni]

Yeah, I'm feminist. The only rights I think men are in need of is the right to not be a part of the selective service and given they're not the sole breadwinners anymore, better custody trends in divorce courts.

But the rights women need more are even more problematic. Wage, for example. That's completely unfair. Another example is dress codes in different places. Sports is another example. The over-representation of men has legitimate sexual dimorphism roots, but needs to expand more for women. I think one of the functional reasons sports are so popular with males is that it builds male bonding through comradery and prepares them for the warrior role whereas women bonded through more domestic means, so having a life in sports should be just as mainstream for women. Then again, when attempts are made such as 'women's football' I cringe because of how sexualized they are. And when it comes to women internationally? Rough stuff out there. Feminism is most important internationally. While Hinduism is a nice exception, religion being inherently patriarchal is inherently about men dominating and controlling women by preventing them from having what can be culturally perceived as the greatest status a human can achieve in their involvement in religion (I'm talking high positions in religions).

Also wtf is manspreading?

 

[seliph]

Also wtf is manspreading?

Behold, the manspread:

Spoiler

Pretty much a non-issue, but still ****ing annoying nonetheless.

 

[Gregriii]

nope

 

[Geoni]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manspreading

Oh lol I manspread all the time. It's been symbolically interacted into me since I was a kid I guess. It's an open body language thing though. I guess I get the public transportation complaint.

 

[Gregriii]

alright but can you pls stop using "men" and "women" while talking about sex? it's really transphobic.

I see you're a typical tumblr user

 

[seliph]

I see you're a typical tumblr user

I see you still contribute nothing to any discussion

 

[Gregriii]

I see you still contribute nothing to any discussion

I did

nope

 

[Geoni]

Hey if a man is manspreading and a woman is she-bagging, just have the woman put the purse in front of the man's manspread and everyone can win. #equality #genderissuesolved

 

[seliph]

Hey if a man is manspreading and a woman is she-bagging, just have the woman put the purse in front of the man's manspread and everyone can win. #equality #genderissuesolved

The patriarchy is smashed
Feminism is saved
We can all sit down

 

[Tao]

how is that in any way, shape or form transphobic

I've seen it used so much [by them] that I'm pretty sure "that's transphobic" is just their catchphrase.

It's not as good as "yabadaba doo" or "zoiks" though.

I don't think so but I haven't ever heard of anyone say "Men should be kept out of x because women flail themselves at them" so I'd just ask why you think that

Well since you said TL: DR in regard to the article, I assumed you either didn't read it or just skimmed it and tried to 'get the jist'. I 'skimmed it' (because I wasn't reading all that either) and seemed to me it was pointing out why women being in the army would be an issue because of both sexes causing issues, not solely because men try to constantly screw them.

Just seemed like a "men trying to screw something are disgusting, a woman is breaking new boundaries" type deal.

For the record, on the actual topic that was being discussed, I don't see why a woman shouldn't be allowed in the army. I thought a lot of the points in the article were stupid (at least the ones I read) and that if they can pass the physical and mental tests that are set in place to join the armed forces that men also have to pass, there's absolutely no reason they're not fit for the job simply because they've got a vajay-jay.

There are more stronger men than women because, again, societal expectations and gender roles.

And testosterone, among other natural things men tend to naturally have more of thanks to their nuts.

The average man is stronger than the average woman. That's just the result of having different parts. Sure, there's going to be weaker guys out there and there are women who could crush the average man, but somebody like Ronda Rousey isn't the 'average' woman.

And looking at a few records, Olympic male weight lifters are/were getting totals between 305kg-472kg. Women are between 212kg-333kg.
Source

These people train specifically to do this stuff and set out to be the best at it, so I doubt social expectations and getting a Barbie for their 12 birthday is accountable for that higher end 139kg difference.

 

[seliph]

Well since you said TLR in regard to the article, I assumed you either didn't read it or just skimmed it and tried to 'get the jist'. I 'skimmed it' (because I wasn't reading all that either) and seemed to me it was pointing out why women being in the army would be an issue because of both sexes causing issues, not solely because men try to constantly screw them.

Just seemed like a "men trying to screw something are disgusting, a woman is breaking new boundaries" type deal.

For the record, on the actual topic that was being discussed, I don't see why a woman shouldn't be allowed in the army. I thought a lot of the points in the article were stupid (at least the ones I read) and that if they can pass the physical and mental tests that are set in place to join the armed forces that men also have to pass, there's absolutely no reason they're not fit for the job simply because they've got a vajay-jay.

I read the first half 'cause ain't no one can expect me to read All That ****™ but what I did read was "Women shouldn't be in the army (with men) because the guys will compete for her rather than doing their job, and also men cheat on their wives". While sure that's pretty garbage I really don't think the solution is separating them like school kids. If a man (or woman) is scummy they're gonna be scummy regardless of whether they're in the army with the opposite sex or not.

But yeah I agree, I don't see why women shouldn't be in the army if they're physically and mentally prepared enough.

 

[Geoni]

Reading up on the military inequality issues I used to understand and I just found out that women can and are joining the Navy Seals and Marine Corps Infantry now. Seeing arguments about 'women distracting' and 'women requring seperate sleeping quarters and cameras (as a result $). Which are bad arguments. It just needs some time for the right women to prove themselves alongside the men for them not to be socially distracting. They made the same arguments against homosexuals. Also in regards to the cameras and sleeping quarters, over 50% of sexual assault in the military is male on male so...

 

[Bowie]

over 50% of sexual assault in the military is male on male so...

Is that true? I wouldn't have imagined.