Can you elaborate on all of this
Are you a feminist?
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Can you elaborate on all of this
ahahahahhahahahahahahahhahah you even said in that whole paragraph "We should both be treated fairly" and "Women should be treated with honor" but lmao you say we shouldn't be treated the same
That Zephyr Guy
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"Women should be treated with honor"
I think he just meant in comparison to how crappily they're treated today but I am also confused as to how you can say "People should be treated fairly" and then "Some jobs are for x group, and some jobs are for y group" in the same post.
I am confused as well. I believe women can hold any job they want, and men should be able to as well. Men can be house-husbands, take care of kids, run daycares, and work in spaces for females if they truly want to. I believe women are just as strong as men to be in the military, and they can be astronauts, or any other job they prefer. I can sort of see why you believe men should primarily be working in the military, but not every woman is scrawny or not tough. Like men, there are many different types of woman out there. I can see why some jobs would be reserved for certain genders, but honestly I believe there shouldn't be a line, and everyone should go out there and do whatever they want to. And technically, not to be rude I promise but I just wanted to point it out, feminism is not the same thing as equalism, so it technically does not make logical sense to prefer one term over another when they are in different categories.
I was born a feminist (in terms of what feminism stands for), but I don't call myself one simply because I don't go out and actively fight for the cause. It is something that has always been a part of me even before I learned that feminism exist.
lostineverfreeforest
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Feminism in the sense that women should be entitled to equal rights, equal opportunity, and equal treatment? If that makes me a feminist, sure. Biology doesn't need to dictate everything, if you can perform as well as somebody else why should you be denied the same opportunity?
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Knew I'd have to go on.
I believe that men and women shouldn't be in combat, together, side-by-side, for several reasons. I believe that women are capable of combat, but unless they were somehow kept separate (which would be a pain in the butt, especially on the battlefield) things could get messy. here's an article that I found recently that basically sums up what would be the issue: http://warontherocks.com/2014/11/heres-why-women-in-combat-units-is-a-bad-idea/ I certainly think that women can serve in some instances, but keeping men and women together in long-term combat units is a no-go.
As for everything else, I don't think we should be segregated into "women do A, men do B" but I do believe that men and women are created differently, with different strengths and weaknesses, and to not take advantage of our differences is to kill something beautiful.
Here's a question: If a perfect equality/feminist society were to develop, what differences between men and women would still exist? are there some things that you would prefer didn't change, or should we be exactly the same, with literally 0 special treatment for men or women?
I believe that men and women shouldn't be in combat, together, side-by-side, for several reasons. I believe that women are capable of combat, but unless they were somehow kept separate (which would be a pain in the butt, especially on the battlefield) things could get messy. here's an article that I found recently that basically sums up what would be the issue: http://warontherocks.com/2014/11/heres-why-women-in-combat-units-is-a-bad-idea/ I certainly think that women can serve in some instances, but keeping men and women together in long-term combat units is a no-go.
As for everything else, I don't think we should be segregated into "women do A, men do B" but I do believe that men and women are created differently, with different strengths and weaknesses, and to not take advantage of our differences is to kill something beautiful.
Here's a question: If a perfect equality/feminist society were to develop, what differences between men and women would still exist? are there some things that you would prefer didn't change, or should we be exactly the same, with literally 0 special treatment for men or women?
tl;dr but maybe someone should teach men to keep it in their ****ing pants and act like adults rather than highschool boys.
The "male brain" and the "female brain" are a myth. Brain wiring and re-wiring is easy and the only reason for the false idea of gendered brains is that girls and boys are typically raised and socialized differently since birth ergo they learn to do different things at different times.
In terms of how the world and society treats them: There would be no differences, no special treatment, and I fail to see how that's a bad thing.
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I feel if I ever said that with the sexes reversed, I would get a good amount of backlash.
But I guess there's a difference between 'stuffing' and 'being stuffed'.
Feminism is a huge thing for me. A lot of my social media is dedicated to activism, primarily intersectional feminism and veganism. A lot of my time is dedicated to learning about issues that different groups of people face. Being queer, LGBT+ rights is a huge area of feminism that is super important to me. I believe that although we've come a long way in regards to women's rights, there is still a long way to go in terms of equal rights for all.
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omg this thread isn't locked yet is this a miracle that a discussion thread isn't locked after one night
lol gender doesn't exist thanks to sexism smh.
people can still be women but they don't have to be treated with any less respect than men. they're still women. easy!!!
gender stereotypes should burn in hell honestly. gender would still exist without them, and it would be so miuch better for everyone !!! yay.
just because ppl of all genders would get equally paid (at least if they were of the same race, smh racism still exists.......) for doing the same job or because women wouldnt be harrassed every day on the street doesnt mean that gender stops existing lmao
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your talk about a females and males being made for different stuff is gross and rly transphobic k bye
also, not quoting that bit because i didnt read all of it, but the article you linked is cishet normative, sexist and not a good reason to why women shouldnt be in combat with men lmaooooo
lol gender doesn't exist thanks to sexism smh.
people can still be women but they don't have to be treated with any less respect than men. they're still women. easy!!!
gender stereotypes should burn in hell honestly. gender would still exist without them, and it would be so miuch better for everyone !!! yay.
just because ppl of all genders would get equally paid (at least if they were of the same race, smh racism still exists.......) for doing the same job or because women wouldnt be harrassed every day on the street doesnt mean that gender stops existing lmao
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your talk about a females and males being made for different stuff is gross and rly transphobic k bye
also, not quoting that bit because i didnt read all of it, but the article you linked is cishet normative, sexist and not a good reason to why women shouldnt be in combat with men lmaooooo
visibleghost
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is gender real anymore
no1 knows
honestly i think gender, as a concept, is rly hard to understand and not rly super obvious. also gender is probably very different for different ppl. most ppl probably need to understand that gender isn't just "HeLL O MY GENDER IS MALE" or " HI MY GENDER IS FEMALE!" and that's it. gender can b a sht ton of stuff and i honestly think we need to get rid of our society's view of gender that we have 2day.
i dunno tho
How are women and men created differently? Anyone can do anything regardless of gender, women don't have any "strengths" over men and men don't have any "strengths" over women, nor does anyone else. I understand what you are saying but honestly there are no differences, other than how people are raised, society, etc. (and those need to go asap) but no biological differences in how we are created, at all.
In my opinion, none. I feel like all the differences between men and women were constructed by society or are ingrained on people as children and none of them are actually necessary. We're all people and I find the separation of "men" and "women" harmful and unnecessary, but sadly I doubt it'll ever change.
is gender real anymore
yes (but I think it's more complex than that)
I agree 100%
I believe in equal rights for everyone, no matter what sex, gender, religion, age, color of skin, hair and eyes etc.
I just choose not to call it feminism or anything else for that matter. It shouldn't even have a name. It should just be common sense quite frankly.
I just choose not to call it feminism or anything else for that matter. It shouldn't even have a name. It should just be common sense quite frankly.
I support women having equal rights and everything, but I'm not really a feminist so to speak since I wouldn't ever attend any rallies or anything. But I kinda agree, gender-stereotyping isn't always a given fact when it comes to people, and although it's probably gonna be a long time before it doesn't exist anymore, it's just one of those things that needs to eventually die out or change. Women can be whoever they want to be, same with men, and lowering women's pay or preventing them things just because they're female is really stupid. Honestly, why can't all people just be equal asides from the rich and the poor? It's stupid if you ask me...
Then again, I'm not female, and it doesn't really affect me, so my opinion on this doesn't really count.
Then again, I'm not female, and it doesn't really affect me, so my opinion on this doesn't really count.
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