Amiibo cards are tripling in price :(

[Krissi2197]

Again, you're rationalizing theft as morally subjective. It's really not.

I used the baseball card analogy as a way to compare scarcity, not function. Nintendo never intended on printing the same amount of each villager, and I can guarantee there's a direct correlation between villager tier and sale price of villager Amiibo.

So are scalpers who bought the amiibo card packs for 5.99 per pack of 6 and is reselling them for 30+ dollars... Is that theft as well? Since they're potentially "stealing" revenue that Nintendo could have gotten by reselling at a much, much higher price?

 

[trashpedia]

It’s crazy. I am so happy that I got Apollo’s amiibo card days before the game came out for around $15 USD with shipping. Now they’re pretty scattered, with around $30~ USD being the lowest (if you aren’t bidding) and $50~ USD being the average.

The ones that are dirt cheap are villagers such as Beardo or Limberg, and it’s pretty interesting to see how their prices compare to the popular ones such as Merengue or Erik.

 

[Sanaki]

Good lord I can't believe there's even a heated debate about theft with amiibo cards.

 

[meggtheegg]

It’s crazy. I am so happy that I got Apollo’s amiibo card days before the game came out for around $15 USD with shipping. Now they’re pretty scattered, with around $30~ USD being the lowest (if you aren’t bidding) and $50~ USD being the average.

The ones that are dirt cheap are villagers such as Beardo or Limberg, and it’s pretty interesting to see how their prices compare to the popular ones such as Merengue or Erik.

i've been browsing ebay a LOT the past two weeks just seeing the differences in price between low and high tier villagers, it's super interesting. the spike in prices was also wild. they were super cheap with the first move in glitch, then the glitch got patched, and the prices shot up the next morning

 

[Jared:3]

I'm assuming you say the same about banks, right? Stealing is stealing.



So advocate paying a thief so you can save money. Seems righteous. Stick it to the big bad companies that employ and insure millions of people.



I'm not the one pointing blame. Us "scalpers" are apparently at fault for the rising price of villager cards. Forget the fact that the most important variable of capitalism is supply and demand. Prices wouldn't be so high if consumers didn't demand them.



What do you want Nintendo to do, send a complete set of 400 Amiibo cards to every single person as a purchase bonus? That's really the only "fair" way to do this.



But you're supporting a criminal. I suppose that's okay, right? There's a reason you have to resort to unmonitored sites like Etsy for these purchases. Listings like these don't exist for very long on eBay, at least nowhere near the volume they do elsewhere.

Judging by the responses, very few people here have ever dabbled in baseball cards. Topps, Panini, Upper Deck and the likes aren't going to produce more of a set simply because there aren't enough. Amiibo cards are an optional, voluntary aspect of Animal Crossing. You buy packs because there's a chance you can get the card you want. I bought 18 looking for Stitches, and I got him once. If Nintendo wanted to be fair, he would have been in all 18.

You can rationalize your immorality/unethical nature away all you want, but at the end of the day, the purchase you made is from someone that stole the data in the first place. It's your karma, not mine.

So would you buy an Ankha card for 90$ at this time?

 

[tajikey]

So are scalpers who bought the amiibo card packs for 5.99 per pack of 6 and is reselling them for 30+ dollars... Is that theft as well? Since they're potentially "stealing" revenue that Nintendo could have gotten by reselling at a much, much higher price?

Now you're just being ridiculous. Just as Topps, Panini, and Upper Deck sell packs of cards, Nintendo did the same. I never took a product or service Nintendo offered, copied it, then sold it as if I own the rights. That's what these stickers are, plagiarized version of a product Nintendo sold.

You just don't understand the concept because it doesn't seem fair, when in reality, it's as "fair" as Nintendo intended it to be.

 

[John Wick]

Wow, I just saw Fang's card for $129.

Or.. I can pay $28 on Etsy for a fan made card.

$28 is too much too.

 

[tajikey]

So would you buy an Ankha card for 90$ at this time?

Nope, not at all, reasons being A) Because I couldn't care less about Ankha, and B) That seems like a lot of money to pay for a single villager.

But it doesn't remove the absolute fact that purchasing an Amiibo in a form other than the officially licensed product of Nintendo is stealing.

I have a friend that makes the stickers. I'm not sure if they sell them, but they offered to make me Merengue, Stitches, and Molly. I told them no, turned around and bought 18 packs of Series 4 (pulling one authentic Stitches), and traded three other cards I pulled for Merengue and Molly. I bought the other 7 Amiibos I wanted - keyword is wanted - from eBay.

 

[mocha.]

I ordered a handmade card from Etsy for around £3/£4? And honestly I can’t really tell the difference between that and my normal ones. Plus it came with a really nice protective case!
Unless you’re a purist, the handmade cards are definitely the way forward.

 

[Jared:3]

Nope, not at all, reasons being A) Because I couldn't care less about Ankha, and B) That seems like a lot of money to pay for a single villager.

But it doesn't remove the absolute fact that purchasing an Amiibo in a form other than the officially licensed product of Nintendo is stealing.

I have a friend that makes the stickers. I'm not sure if they sell them, but they offered to make me Merengue, Stitches, and Molly. I told them no, turned around and bought 18 packs of Series 4 (pulling one authentic Stitches), and traded three other cards I pulled for Merengue and Molly. I bought the other 7 Amiibos I wanted - keyword is wanted - from eBay.

that's the whole point you just said it "THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY TO PAY FOR A SINGLE VILLAGER" ya think LOL!!!

 

[trashpedia]

Good lord I can't believe there's even a heated debate about theft with amiibo cards.

Spoiler

Ngl as someone who frequently visits gossip/nitpicking forums like Pretty Ugly Little Liar or GuruGossiper, the fights here on TBT are much more wild and that's saying something lmaoooooo.

i've been browsing ebay a LOT the past two weeks just seeing the differences in price between low and high tier villagers, it's super interesting. the spike in prices was also wild. they were super cheap with the first move in glitch, then the glitch got patched, and the prices shot up the next morning

Ikrrr there's a listing to get Raymond for ebay around $50 USD and then you have Merengue's amiibo card that's around $90 USD at most.

 

[meggtheegg]

Spoiler

Ngl as someone who frequently visits gossip/nitpicking forums like Pretty Ugly Little Liar or GuruGossiper, the fights here on TBT are much more wild and that's saying something lmaoooooo.

Ikrrr there's a listing to get Raymond for ebay around $50 USD and then you have Merengue's amiibo card that's around $90 USD at most.

asijozjksdlsjkd my little sister wanted merengue's amiibo for her birthday on the 25th last month and i took one look on ebay and was like ....... im sorry kid LMAO i got her melba's, fuschia's, papi's, and winnie's cards for her though all at a really decent price. honestly, unless you love only the tier 1s you can find some decently priced less looked at amiibos on ebay still. i've been enjoying finding little steals. Picked up a bunch of lovely villager amiibos (like ken, nan, celia, hazel, marcel, etc) all under 5$ it brings me such a serotonin rush :')

 

[Aleigh]

I'm assuming you say the same about banks, right? Stealing is stealing.



So advocate paying a thief so you can save money. Seems righteous. Stick it to the big bad companies that employ and insure millions of people.



I'm not the one pointing blame. Us "scalpers" are apparently at fault for the rising price of villager cards. Forget the fact that the most important variable of capitalism is supply and demand. Prices wouldn't be so high if consumers didn't demand them.



What do you want Nintendo to do, send a complete set of 400 Amiibo cards to every single person as a purchase bonus? That's really the only "fair" way to do this.



But you're supporting a criminal. I suppose that's okay, right? There's a reason you have to resort to unmonitored sites like Etsy for these purchases. Listings like these don't exist for very long on eBay, at least nowhere near the volume they do elsewhere.

Judging by the responses, very few people here have ever dabbled in baseball cards. Topps, Panini, Upper Deck and the likes aren't going to produce more of a set simply because there aren't enough. Amiibo cards are an optional, voluntary aspect of Animal Crossing. You buy packs because there's a chance you can get the card you want. I bought 18 looking for Stitches, and I got him once. If Nintendo wanted to be fair, he would have been in all 18.

You can rationalize your immorality/unethical nature away all you want, but at the end of the day, the purchase you made is from someone that stole the data in the first place. It's your karma, not mine.

Look man, not all of us have hundreds of dollars to spend on a piece of paper. Especially during times like these where a lot of people are out of a job. If Nintendo was really worried about it, they'd make it harder to copy or easier to come across. It's an amiibo card of an animal, not a driver's license. I myself haven't bought any, nor am I planning on it, but I can see how a lot of people would rather "support a criminal"

 

[Fuzzysaurus Rex]

It is morally justified to buy homemade Amiibo cards or coins off Etsy in these trying times. Seriously, that's why I did. Never give in to scalpers.



And remember: bad times are just times that are bad.

 

[tajikey]

Look man, not all of us have hundreds of dollars to spend on a piece of paper. Especially during times like these where a lot of people are out of a job. If Nintendo was really worried about it, they'd make it harder to copy or easier to come across. It's an amiibo card of an animal, not a driver's license. I myself haven't bought any, nor am I planning on it, but I can see how a lot of people would rather "support a criminal"

The whole argument started because someone called resellers "scalpers," questioning the morality of supply and demand in a Capitalist economy (totally legal). Meanwhile, they, along with a bunch of others here, see nothing wrong with paying someone money for hacked copies of genuine products (totally illegal).

If someone wants to pay me $20 for Lobo within 10 minutes of my listing going live, it means the demand was high, and supply was low, and a 100% legal, tax-applicable transaction occurred.

I'm not holier than thou, I'm just able to better discern morality/ethics, at least in this sense.

I also don't have hundreds of dollars to play a game how I want, but there are plenty of people in the world that do.

 

[Underneath The Stars]

this heated debate lmfaooooooooooo both are obviously wrong period. but in this situation, people would go for what is more logical. simple physics!

 

[thatveryawkwardmayor]

The whole argument started because someone called resellers "scalpers," questioning the morality of supply and demand in a Capitalist economy (totally legal). Meanwhile, they, along with a bunch of others here, see nothing wrong with paying someone money for hacked copies of genuine products (totally illegal).

If someone wants to pay me $20 for Lobo within 10 minutes of my listing going live, it means the demand was high, and supply was low, and a 100% legal, tax-applicable transaction occurred.

I'm not holier than thou, I'm just able to better discern morality/ethics, at least in this sense.

I also don't have hundreds of dollars to play a game how I want, but there are plenty of people in the world that do.

there is no ethical consumption under captialism

 

[meggtheegg]

The whole argument started because someone called resellers "scalpers," questioning the morality of supply and demand in a Capitalist economy (totally legal). Meanwhile, they, along with a bunch of others here, see nothing wrong with paying someone money for hacked copies of genuine products (totally illegal).

If someone wants to pay me $20 for Lobo within 10 minutes of my listing going live, it means the demand was high, and supply was low, and a 100% legal, tax-applicable transaction occurred.

I'm not holier than thou, I'm just able to better discern morality/ethics, at least in this sense

no, see you're confused. you started your argument not based on legality but based on morals. which are two totally different things here. of course homemade tags aren't legal. no one here is claiming they're legal. legality is objective, and not one single person here is arguing otherwise. but the thing is, morality and ethics ARE subjective. Which means your distinction of morality/ethics isn't "better" than anyone else here, because it literally can't be. It's just *different* than others here. And to think otherwise *is* a "holier than thou" statement.

no one came here to get into a debate about whether or not homemade tags are legal. and not everyone on ebay is a scalper. in *my opinion*, taking a card i got in a 10$ pack and selling it for 90$ is immoral. But it isn't illegal. People have a right to do so if they want. So I don't go around outwardly calling these people objectively immoral and dishonest and implying that they lack intelligence. i know you dont think so, but i do, unfortunately, understand capitalism. i'm not confused on why these cards are selling for such high prices. I mind my business and buy amiibo cards in a way that I'm comfortable with.

 

[alitwick]

Look at this guy try to make resellers on this market look good.

If you’re really all about being just and morally responsible, why not sell that Lobo card for what it’s actually worth? You obviously have no issues with charging a higher cost. After all, you set the price yourself. But nah, you just want to make money.

Not saying making money in the general sense is a bad thing, but maybe you’re not in the best position to be talking about what’s moral and what isn’t.

 

[0orchid]

Wow this makes me grateful I bought 3 packs on Amazon a while ago for $25. I just checked the same product and now it's selling for 2x that amount, definitely wouldn't have wanted to buy that