Why are Time Travelers frowned upon?..

[oath2order]

Most people like to play the game at the slow pace.

Honestly, most threads I see about time travelling are started by Time Travellers whining about how it's frowned upon, even though there are very few threads about it in the first place.

 

[VonTreece]

Most people like to play the game at the slow pace.

Honestly, most threads I see about time travelling are started by Time Travellers whining about how it's frowned upon, even though there are very few threads about it in the first place.

I did state that it was a rant.. But i'm hardly whining.
I just wish to understand why they are frowned upon. Which is why this thread was initially created..

And yes, most people do like to play the game at a slower pace. There's nothing wrong with that!
But just because the majority do something a certain way doesn't make it correct nor incorrect.

To each their own.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

I'm just ticked with people saying that TTers cheat and don't play right. I'm not whining. I'm just angry. No one is perfect. Animal Crossing is a place you can be yourself in. You can escape from the world and do what you like in Animal Crossing. But people give us crap and it makes me think. I think this: "If you aren't yourself in Animal Crossing, you're holding yourself back." I'm not saying legit players aren't being themselves. We're all ourselves in Animal Crossing, where we're in charge, and TTers are only being themselves. If they enjoy it, they enjoy all the AC has to offer. Same with non-TTers, hackers and even cheaters. If you enjoy it, you're being yourself and no one should make you think you're not playing right. It doesn't matter if you do or don't agree, I'm only stating what I believe.

 

[jessicafae]

I honestly only TT to trade villagers or if its late at night, I will change a day ahead to have more things to do. I was afraid at first but it was worth it because I got a dream villager of mine, Ankha.

 

[pocky]

It's kind of like cheating the game, but that's just my opinion. Personally, I feel like time-traveling takes away from the game. Sure it's a pain to wait for things, but the reward is what makes it worth while.

I don't really care if people Time Travel. But they ones who do and brag about all the cool stuff they got or the things they did, that's what gets me mad. Because they didn't really work for it or wait for it, all they did was skip ahead. Idk.

Just because somebody time travels doesn't mean that they don't work hard for their items. Bells don't fall from the sky when you time travel, you still have to work to earn items. I personally find it ridiculous that some people actually consider it cheating. If anything... I would say that some Time Travelers work harder than people who don't TT at all.

For example...

NON-TTer's routine: gets on the game, weeds their town, waters flowers, picks up fossils, trash, talks to villagers, then spends the day farming bells so socializing with other players.

My routine: I get on the game, weed my town, water all of my flowers (hundreds of them), I pick up fossils, trash, I talk to my villagers to make sure that they're happy and spend some time socializing with players. THEN I change the time and repeat the steps all over again, sometimes several times in a real day.

Bragging of any kind is rude. But it's also rude to assume that TTers are lazy and that they don't work hard for what they have :/

 

[Lemons]

I'm not going to quote everyone I'm answering so sorry if it gets confusing.

@Lemons: It's pretty disrespectful to say TTers are playing the game wrong. Animal Crossing was never meant to played in one way. Like some others, you're talking as if there is only one way to play. Some people enjoy time traveling, like me. Others do it for missed events. If TTing didn't exist, half the people who play AC wouldn't exist either. Me and all TTers have our ways, you have yours. We respect you, you should respect us. Does it matter if we TT? Are we any different from the rest of Animal Crossing fans?

I don't think I'm disrespecting anyone.
But just think about it: If you're not playing the game as it is meant to be played (real time), then you're simply not playing it right. If you say it's ok to TT and acknowledge that it was made to be played in real time, you're also saying it's ok to hack, abuse glitches or anything like it. Afterall, it's possible even though it's not meant to be. Hacking is just another way to play the game, right?!
I respect you, as long as it doesn't bother me. It doesn't, I'm just expressing my views, since that's why the thread was made: to listen to people's opinion. I am sorry if I offended anyone somehow, though, it was definitely not my intention. Also, I stated several timed: doesn't matter, doesn't bother me, as long as it doesn't affect me, and it's not.


Anyway, for the people saying that Nintendo say "it's ok", what about this?
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/animalcrossing-newleaf/0/1

I'm sure there are plenty of players who have fiddled with the clock when playing the game, but this is a shame as a really nice aspect of Animal Crossing is the sense of unity that comes from time passing in sync with the real world. It means that everyone gets to share that sense of the seasons and the time passing, so we were keen to retain that element of the game.

It's not encouraged at all. It is possible and a lot of people would complain it Nintendo forbid time traveling, and I still think it's not worth the trouble to change that (if they don't even make patch for a lot of glitches, or stop hacking, why would they bother with TT?!), but it still means you're not playing it as it was meant to be played. And if you're not playing as it was meant to be played, then you're not playing it right.

Why some Time travers care so much about what other people think anyway? If you're playing it "wrong" and enjoying it, just keep doing it.

As for the prices of seasonal stuff, you've got a point. From the prices said, it's not really exploiting for bells, but the issue of not waiting for the seasons, and enjoying it in their time is still taken away. I may think twice about calling it cheating though, thanks for the nice explanation!

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

We're fine with it, it's like I said earlier. People give us crap and it makes us feel bad and gets on our nerves. No one likes being told they're "cheating". Also, as I said, you're only being yourself. Cheaters, hackers, TTers, non-TTers, if they enjoy it, there's no point arguing unless they have done damage to your town.

 

[Bea]

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What if instant gratification is their chosen play-style?.. Is that so wrong?
I understand that it may take away from the spirit of the game, but it's up to the player to decide what they feel is the right way to play.

There's nothing wrong with it, however it's clear that a Public Works Project is intended by the developers to take a day to build. The game is designed to make you wait for things you want, you can't grind and earn anything in one sitting without going around the real time system. If the developers had geared the game towards a more instant-gratification model they would have made the in game time something like Harvest Moon. When you Time Travel - which is fine it's your game - you're not followed the intended game play. If that's what you enjoy, by all means knock yourself out, but it's important to recognize that you weren't intended to play that way.

 

[VonTreece]

Just because somebody time travels doesn't mean that they don't work hard for their items. Bells don't fall from the sky when you time travel, you still have to work to earn items. I personally find it ridiculous that some people actually consider it cheating. If anything... I would say that some Time Travelers work harder than people who don't TT at all.

For example...

NON-TTer's routine: gets on the game, weeds their town, waters flowers, picks up fossils, trash, talks to villagers, then spends the day farming bells so socializing with other players.

My routine: I get on the game, weed my town, water all of my flowers (hundreds of them), I pick up fossils, trash, I talk to my villagers to make sure that they're happy and spend some time socializing with players. THEN I change the time and repeat the steps all over again, sometimes several times in a real day.

Bragging of any kind is rude. But it's also rude to assume that TTers are lazy and that they don't work hard for what they have :/

Can I add you?! I need more people like you on my friend's list.. d; haha

I'm not going to quote everyone I'm answering so sorry if it gets confusing.



I don't think I'm disrespecting anyone.
But just think about it: If you're not playing the game as it is meant to be played (real time), then you're simply not playing it right. If you say it's ok to TT and acknowledge that it was made to be played in real time, you're also saying it's ok to hack, abuse glitches or anything like it. Afterall, it's possible even though it's not meant to be. Hacking is just another way to play the game, right?!
I respect you, as long as it doesn't bother me. It doesn't, I'm just expressing my views, since that's why the thread was made: to listen to people's opinion. I am sorry if I offended anyone somehow, though, it was definitely not my intention. Also, I stated several timed: doesn't matter, doesn't bother me, as long as it doesn't affect me, and it's not.


Anyway, for the people saying that Nintendo say "it's ok", what about this?
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/animalcrossing-newleaf/0/1

I'm sure there are plenty of players who have fiddled with the clock when playing the game, but this is a shame as a really nice aspect of Animal Crossing is the sense of unity that comes from time passing in sync with the real world. It means that everyone gets to share that sense of the seasons and the time passing, so we were keen to retain that element of the game.

It's not encouraged at all. It is possible and a lot of people would complain it Nintendo forbid time traveling, and I still think it's not worth the trouble to change that (if they don't even make patch for a lot of glitches, or stop hacking, why would they bother with TT?!), but it still means you're not playing it as it was meant to be played. And if you're not playing as it was meant to be played, then you're not playing it right.

Why some Time travers care so much about what other people think anyway? If you're playing it "wrong" and enjoying it, just keep doing it.

As for the prices of seasonal stuff, you've got a point. From the prices said, it's not really exploiting for bells, but the issue of not waiting for the seasons, and enjoying it in their time is still taken away. I may think twice about calling it cheating though, thanks for the nice explanation!

Regardless of if a Nintendo staff member stated that, it's her opinion.

It's not an official fact or rule.

For all we know, other Nintendo employees may feel completely different about the topic!

Can't say for sure.

Like I said, if they were avidly against TTing, it wouldn't be hard to prevent it.

I've stated this before as well..

"There's no doubt that the intended nature of the game is to play in real-time and experience the world of Animal Crossing day by day.. But the key word there is "intended".. It's not a fact. It's not required. It's not cheating or breaking any rules."

There is no "correct" and "incorrect" way to play.. There are just preferences and opinions.

But it is wrong to knock down other players simply because of how they chose to play a game.

 

[oath2order]

There's nothing wrong with it, however it's clear that a Public Works Project is intended by the developers to take a day to build. The game is designed to make you wait for things you want, you can't grind and earn anything in one sitting without going around the real time system. If the developers had geared the game towards a more instant-gratification model they would have made the in game time something like Harvest Moon. When you Time Travel - which is fine it's your game - you're not followed the intended game play. If that's what you enjoy, by all means knock yourself out, but it's important to recognize that you weren't intended to play that way.

THIS pretty much sums up the argument against TT

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Spoiler: silly large image

I go away for a few hours and suddenly TT is the hottest topic. I really didn't think it was such a big issue really. D: Honestly, just play the way you want to play. Your game, have at it. Do I personally think it cheating? Just a wee bit, but I'm not going to call ya out for it unless your gains were all ill-gotten that way. Did I TT? Yeah back with the older games just to get the store or home upgrade right away, but with New Leaf I just want to take it day by day.

Really looking through the thread this whole thing seems rather silly. :[

 

[Bea]

THIS pretty much sums up the argument against TT

It's not that I'm against TTing. I don't personally do it but if that's how someone wants to play their game they have every right. My only point is that in doing so it still does go against the nature of the game; which I think Resetti has made pretty clear over the years .

 

[Lemons]

We're fine with it, it's like I said earlier. People give us crap and it makes us feel bad and gets on our nerves. No one likes being told they're "cheating". Also, as I said, you're only being yourself. Cheaters, hackers, TTers, non-TTers, if they enjoy it, there's no point arguing unless they have done damage to your town.

...if you're doing anything that might be considered cheating you should be prepared to be called a cheater. If you don't like to hear it that much, then don't do it? It can be considered cheating in the sense you're just skipping hours of the game to play it faster, but by doing that you're only "cheating" for yourself. Not bothering others, harmless kind of cheating? Sure. But still cheating. Just try not caring that much about it and your nerves will be fine.
Hackers are the same, even worse as it may ruin other people's experience a lot more.

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It's not that I'm against TTing. I don't personally do it but if that's how someone wants to play their game they have every right. My only point is that in doing so it still does go against the nature of the game; which I think Resetti has made pretty clear over the years .

This.
Resetting the game is cheating too, so I guess we're all cheaters

 

[Rose]

"It's frustrating to those who wait because it shows an inability to walk around, see what's going on, just be in your own little synced world and have a nice time -- all of that is a huge part of enjoying an Animal Crossing game to the majority of loyal players."

VonTreece, you're putting words in my mouth and therefore misinterpreting the meaning of what I really said. It seems you're only offending yourself by refusing to take a breather and understand you are arguing with someone who agrees with you.

"It is frustrating to those who wait and the majority of loyal players."
I was saying that people who are long-term fans of the series are more sensitive to what others choose to do with their games.

What if instant gratification is their chosen play-style?.. Is that so wrong?
I understand that it may take away from the spirit of the game, but it's up to the player to decide what they feel is the right way to play.

I never said it was "so wrong," that is just another case of you making poor assumptions.

And? Is there a problem with that?

I feel that every single thing I say is quoted by you and promptly challenged with "and what's your problem with that?" when I never had one to begin with. I am speaking of other people to answer your thread title, I can only reiterate this so many times.

It's there to match the pace of the player. Maybe their play-style is to rush through and perfect their town as fast as they can. Who are you to say that it isn't right?

I didn't say it wasn't right.

I was under the impression from the thread's title that you were asking for answers to your question. I figured that in a thread about opinions, there wasn't a "wrong answer" that would end with someone challenging every word I speak with a dictionary in their hand.

I am going to respectfully bow out of this discussion. I think it's apparent at this point that you're only going to hear what you want to hear, which makes for a very unfair and silly argument.

 

[VonTreece]

THIS pretty much sums up the argument against TT

I understand the points of the argument, but..

You could also say that they added in the time change feature because they anticipated that players may want to have a speedier game play..
It's there to match the pace of the player. Maybe their play-style is to rush through and perfect their town as fast as they can. Who are you to say that it isn't right?
I am well aware of how the game is intended to be played.. But it's intended - not demanded. And a time traveler is no less of a player than a non-time traveler.

 

[Wish]

because people can't get over themselves and let people play however the **** they want

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

I want just let this out. It probably won't stop any arguing and opinions but it's worth a try.

People in real life are normally stressed. They have lives, jobs and they are, in many cases, hard at work, with piles of paperwork. For some people, video games is the way to relieve their stress and work. Animal Crossing is a game where you do what you want, when you want, where you want. We have styles of play and what makes us happy to escape from real-world troubles. As we play, we find new ways to enjoy gaming, whether it be cheating, hacking or going hardcore. We become ourselves, and do our gaming in unique styles. We are only trying to get away from work and stress. If we find something that helps us forget all about it, then why should we listen to other people's criticism on styles of play? In Animal Crossing, whether it be time traveling, going in real time, or hacking, you are you, and what makes you happy is all that matters.

I know it is stupid, but I hope that helps us all out. I hate fighting over silly little things, and I just hope what I wrote makes sense. I'm no guru, and I'm not goody-goody. So, just be mature about all of this time traveling stuff!

 

[VonTreece]

VonTreece, you're putting words in my mouth and therefore misinterpreting the meaning of what I really said. It seems you're only offending yourself by refusing to take a breather and understand you are arguing with someone who agrees with you.

"It is frustrating to those who wait and the majority of loyal players."
I was saying that people who are long-term fans of the series are more sensitive to what others choose to do with their games.


I never said it was "so wrong," that is just another case of you making poor assumptions.


I feel that every single thing I say is quoted by you and promptly challenged with "and what's your problem with that?" when I never had one to begin with. I am speaking of other people to answer your thread title, I can only reiterate this so many times.


I didn't say it wasn't right.

I was under the impression from the thread's title that you were asking for answers to your question. I figured that in a thread about opinions, there wasn't a "wrong answer" that would end with someone challenging every word I speak with a dictionary in their hand.

I am going to respectfully bow out of this discussion. I think it's apparent at this point that you're only going to hear what you want to hear, which makes for a very unfair and silly argument.

I apologize for misinterpreting the meaning of your posts.
I took them in a much different and near-hostile manner and after reading over our little conversation, I see that you were simply stating your views just as I was.
I'd also like to apologize if I seemed at all hostile in my questioning. I didn't mean it in the least!

I am happy to hear your opinion and i'm enjoying this thread very much.
It's helped understand a bit on why other players are against time traveling.

With that, I think i'm going to back out of this thread as well.
I believe I got my point across through my numerous posts as well as hear the opinions of many others.

It's time for me to get back to playing some animal crossing!

Thanks again for all the input everyone!

/out

 

[Meltd0wn]

It's not that I'm against TTing. I don't personally do it but if that's how someone wants to play their game they have every right. My only point is that in doing so it still does go against the nature of the game; which I think Resetti has made pretty clear over the years .

Resetti has never ever appeared or said anything to me because I changed the clock in the game, on any of the versions of Animal Crossing. Sure he has yelled at me when the game has been shut off without saving lots of times, but never once did he mention anything about changing the time.

 

[Isabella]

Jeez in the end it's just a game that YOU paid for therefore you can do whatever you want with it. You have the option to change the clock on a game if you happen to be impatient for something or if you're a late night gamer; it's something you obviously can't do in real life so why not do it in the game?

And what difference does it make if someone time travels or not? It doesn't affect your non-time-traveling town in any sort of way.

Like others said, there's no set way on how you play the game. You do what you want, that's written in the manuals and all that. Time travelling is essentially a different style of playing the game, if they completely opposed of it they would have removed the changing time feature altogether..