Who's seen Frozen?

Ridiculously yes, for both actually. And also the settings, and other crap I didn't even bother finish reading. It's a movie, kids/family movie at that, for everyone to enjoy. But oh well. I liked it a lot though so :P

...What's their problem with the settings?
 
...What's their problem with the settings?

Sigh I honestly forgot the entire problem/post but it was something about how the place and time was off n stuff, I'll look for it and PM you or something. Don't wanna post it here and show everyone oopsss
 
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What, you mean how some people on Tumblr criticize it for the characters looking the same...GENETICS.

or are we talking about the "whitewashing" bull****?

It's based in the freezing north, of course people from there are going to be mostly white.

I've heard a lot of talk that they used Rapunzel's model when making Anna. I'm still not seeing it.
 
There's no proof that it's based off of a real world location. If you have some, I'd like to see it.

Also it's a damn Disney movie, not the history channel.

According to Wikipedia, Frozen is partially based off Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tale, "The Snow Queen" which takes place in Norway. Spitsbergen, to be precise.

And for that matter, it's a Disney movie, you're right, in which case representation shouldn't matter, since it's a kids movie.

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wtf am i the only loser who hasn't watched this w0w its that good?

i haven't seen it either oops

Yes. It really is that good.

I just got in on this discussion, but is it true that Frozen was nominated for an Oscar award?

It's nominated for Best Animated Picture at the Oscars, along with Best Original Song for "Let It Go" (it'll probably lose to the song from the Nelson Mandela movie but whatever).
 
It's nominated for Best Animated Picture at the Oscars, along with Best Original Song for "Let It Go" (it'll probably lose to the song from the Nelson Mandela movie but whatever).

And it did
 
And for that matter, it's a Disney movie, you're right, in which case representation shouldn't matter, since it's a kids movie.
Excuse me? Why on Earth do you think equal representation shouldn't matter just because it's a children's movie? It most certainly matters, in fact, even more so for children.

Let me tell you a little story about a boy named Tynan. Tynan is a 1st grade student that I met while student teaching last year who happens to be black. During free time, we could chat and play games and stuff like that. I was wearing a Captain America shirt that day, and he happened to like it and brought up The Avengers. So we talked about it for a while before he turns to his teacher and asks "Ms., why aren't any of the superheroes black?"... What was she supposed to say? She nervously said "Well, there just aren't any," and he got a really sad look in his eyes. I said "But there could be," trying to cheer him up, but he said "Then why aren't there any?". I then pulled out my phone and introduced him to Static Shock, the only black superhero I could think of at the moment. His face lit up. "Static Shock is so cool!" he said about three or four times. Static Shock is now his favorite superhero and his favorite show, and his mother contacted me through email a few months later to thank me for introducing it to him.

There's also my friend's little sister Jocelyn, who is half black half Mexican. Her favorite Princesses are Cinderella and Ariel. She constantly says things like "I wish I had lighter skin like Ariel" and "I wish I had beautiful blonde hair like Cinderella". She is seven years old. Seven. And she is already insecure about herself. You know what what at the top of her Christmas list? Hair dye. She is seven years old. Little girls should not be worrying about this kind of thing.

Equal representation is important because children of color need to see themselves and their own races represented or they will grow up feeling inferior and insignificant. They may even grow up thinking things like you're only beautiful if you're white.

Even with Disney's racist past, I'm not calling Frozen racist. But the past three or four Disney movies have had an all-white cast, and Disney failed to include POC. It's all just more and more white people. This is a huge lack of representation.

I am fed up with your blatant ignorance. You have no idea what it's like, so just shut up.
 
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It's the best thing to happen to the world :D


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Oh the irony of discussing equality in relation to a Disney film.

Anyway. The film does actually do more for equality than you realise. It shows people of the S?mi culture, a culture which the Norwegian and Swedish governments have attempted to wipe out. Also, as has been said, it's based on the area they're from which is the far north of Scandinavia.

The last four animated Disney films are Wreck-It Ralph (General Hologram) Winne-the-Pooh (most of the characters are animals, so irrelevant), Tangled (fair enough example) and The Princess and the Frog. You know, the film that introduced the first African-American Disney princess?
With the superheroes thing, you have to remember that a lot of the characters they're using in the films were created before the introduction of black heroes. Plus the Marvel films do have black heroes in them, so I guess this discussion is kind of pointless.
 
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