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what do you think about homosexuality in video gam

Tola said:
blue2kid3 said:
Tola said:
blue2kid3 said:
Tola said:
Gracie's a guy. Birdo's a guy. Vivian from Paper Mario 2 is a guy.

Japan is homophobic, so Gracie and Birdo both MOCK homosexuals, but at the same time they have a fascination with androgyny. Vivian, for example, resembles nothing but a girl.

"Nothing wrong with it. I don't mind it at all, if anything, it develops more of a character.

The only reason that it would hurt the game is because parents wouldn't want to buy it for the children."

Being gay doesn't develop character - it makes a character gay. Why does having a different sexuality make you a greater character? It doesn't. It means nothing in a video game, of all places.

It's funny to me, because Japan is mocking the gay community to a point with Gracie Grace - who, although his sexuality is never identified, definitely carries the stigma of a flaming 'gay' fashion designer. Gracie being a giraffe is also funny, because most male giraffes engage in more homosexual sex or "necking" than heterosexual. This could also be a reference.

Birdo's original concept stated that he believed he was a girl named "Birdette". This could allude to transgenders more than homosexuals, because it's an identity thing, not a sexuality thing.

Vivian from Paper Mario 2 is a "bishounen", which in Japanese, refers to a very effeminite guy. It's just a pure case of Japan's fetish with androgyny.

Yoshi, however, is not gay. I don't believe any of the rumors that Yoshi actually LIKES Birdo - Yoshi has no protuding sexuality, as much as you'd like to believe. If he "liked" Birdo in that way, it would be an allusion to guys that fall in love with transgenders or transexuals - again, Birdo thinks he is a girl and posesses all of a girl's qualities. Why WOULDN'T Yoshi be deceived?
ok i just want to be clear so what your saying is that gays should not be in video games and that you don't care for them,what he meant by develops is it makes them more of a creative charterer i fully support gays and i think that gays and transsexuals should appear in games and not to be made fun of by ppl saying they don't want gays in games is like saying i don't want black ppl in games cuz i don't like them and Nintendo is racist, alot of ppl say they want games as realistic as possible and that dose in evolve color sex,and homosexuality
I'm having difficulty understanding you because you're the most illiterate person I've ever met.

How do you KNOW what he meant? It's a widespread misconception that men wanting to sleep with men possess more character than men who want to sleep with women. People think that being gay develops more character, and I'm not going to try to read into what he said as anything BUT what he said. Stop trying as well.

I never said I don't want gays in video games; I don't want SEXUALITY in video games. Black is a race - homosexuality is a sexuality. Are you seriously comparing an entire race, that had to go through a civil rights movement JUST because of their color, with a bunch of men and women who have a different sexuality than the norm? You can't hide your color in a closet, but you can hide your sexuality. You made a disturbing comparison.

People do not want video games to be realistic - they are escapes from reality. If you want to see more gay, then go to a night club in San Francisco - Nintendo games are certainly not the place. However, I find Birdo's character funny. I find Gracie funny. Stop whining about it.
ok that's just what i was checking i don't want to start fights i have read some of the things you have posted and you have very brilliant views and points i play animal crossing to get away from that i wanted ppls opinions on it and what i was saying in my first quot is that i don't like haters toward any thing your born how your born nothing can change that i just have to keep my guard up on this kind of topic i have dealt with ppl seance the day i realized i didn't really have a true friend and opened his mouth, the reason i want sexuality in video games is so ppl get used to it and stop making fun of them for something you cant change
I don't start fights, people like you do; your reactions trigger a conflict.

People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media. They also don't like the concept of abnormality. People are sensitive to it, especially because it's often being shoved into people's heads nowadays.

Video games are very good because they take your focus away from real life, and emerse you into another one. Animal Crossing upstarts an entire NEW life for you, as ridiculous as that may sound. This game, in particular, caters to our senses of duty and obligation. However, I do suggest GETTING A REAL JOB as well.

People don't need gay characters in video games to erase stigma - they need to know that homosexuality is just a sexuality - it can't harm them.
ok uh i didn't mean for it to sound like i said you started the fight that was my poor a tempt of saying........ sorry i don't want to start fights and i am sorry
 
It's fine with me, (as long as it's not overly stereotypical...) but like UB said it might hurt sales.


People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media.
No, there's a ton of people who just hate people for being gay, and it has nothing to do with the media. *coughChristianscough*
 
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
It's fine with me, (as long as it's not overly stereotypical...) but like UB said it might hurt sales.


People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media.
No, there's a ton of people who just hate people for being gay, and it has nothing to do with the media. *coughChristianscough*
Again, no - normal people hate the stigma associated with the homosexual communities, as do I. It has everything to do with their portrayal in the media. Have you seen their disgusting parades? You don't need a religion to find that appaling.

Christians don't hate gay people for being gay, they just follow the course of their religion and think that the idea of a man sleeping with another man is reprehensible. They do not hate people for being gay - that is an uncontrollable biological feature. Who you sleep with, however, is controllable, and that is the logic by which the church goes.
 
Tola said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
It's fine with me, (as long as it's not overly stereotypical...) but like UB said it might hurt sales.


People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media.
No, there's a ton of people who just hate people for being gay, and it has nothing to do with the media. *coughChristianscough*
Again, no - normal people hate the stigma associated with the homosexual communities, as do I. It has everything to do with their portrayal in the media. Have you seen their disgusting parades? You don't need a religion to find that appaling.

Christians don't hate gay people for being gay, they just follow the course of their religion and think that the idea of a man sleeping with another man is reprehensible. They do not hate people for being gay - that is an uncontrollable biological feature. Who you sleep with, however, is controllable, and that is the logic by which the church goes.
You know what Tola? You do start fights everywhere on here.

Personally those parades can get weird but do you want to know why such a culture developed? It developed because of the large numbers of people rejected by their own families. That is sad. But gay people started sticking together and helped each other, made their own communities that breeds a new culture because they see themselves as so different. Being gay really isn't all that different but some people get that idea from how others treat them, which sad to say could include disgust from their own mother. Rejection bred a culture that embraced what many reject, which of course seems appalling to many. Heck I think they are really weird a lot of the time.

If you think that the people who reject their own children because they are gay do so for no reason I think most of the time the reason is religion, in this country most of the time meaning Christianity. I am not saying all Christians are no but to say that no Christians just hate gay people you are wrong. Many do, and it saddens me.

I think the real question becomes why would it matter if there was someone who is gay in a video game? I hate the stereotypes but there are gay fashion designers out there. However look at games like the sims or Bully, you can have guys kiss guys in those games, despite not needing to be stereotypically gay.

Being gay is a part of a characters development if they develop it, it adds a new side to them just as a relationship with a woman in the past could.
 
Tola said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
It's fine with me, (as long as it's not overly stereotypical...) but like UB said it might hurt sales.


People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media.
No, there's a ton of people who just hate people for being gay, and it has nothing to do with the media. *coughChristianscough*
Again, no - normal people hate the stigma associated with the homosexual communities, as do I. It has everything to do with their portrayal in the media. Have you seen their disgusting parades? You don't need a religion to find that appaling.

Christians don't hate gay people for being gay, they just follow the course of their religion and think that the idea of a man sleeping with another man is reprehensible. They do not hate people for being gay - that is an uncontrollable biological feature. Who you sleep with, however, is controllable, and that is the logic by which the church goes.
That's about it.

I've said this before: Supposed Christians who 'hate' gays give us a bad name. It's those same people who make you guys think we're an intolerable bunch of old-fashioned idiots.
 
Sporge27 said:
Tola said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
It's fine with me, (as long as it's not overly stereotypical...) but like UB said it might hurt sales.


People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media.
No, there's a ton of people who just hate people for being gay, and it has nothing to do with the media. *coughChristianscough*
Again, no - normal people hate the stigma associated with the homosexual communities, as do I. It has everything to do with their portrayal in the media. Have you seen their disgusting parades? You don't need a religion to find that appaling.

Christians don't hate gay people for being gay, they just follow the course of their religion and think that the idea of a man sleeping with another man is reprehensible. They do not hate people for being gay - that is an uncontrollable biological feature. Who you sleep with, however, is controllable, and that is the logic by which the church goes.
You know what Tola? You do start fights everywhere on here.

Personally those parades can get weird but do you want to know why such a culture developed? It developed because of the large numbers of people rejected by their own families. That is sad. But gay people started sticking together and helped each other, made their own communities that breeds a new culture because they see themselves as so different. Being gay really isn't all that different but some people get that idea from how others treat them, which sad to say could include disgust from their own mother. Rejection bred a culture that embraced what many reject, which of course seems appalling to many. Heck I think they are really weird a lot of the time.

If you think that the people who reject their own children because they are gay do so for no reason I think most of the time the reason is religion, in this country most of the time meaning Christianity. I am not saying all Christians are no but to say that no Christians just hate gay people you are wrong. Many do, and it saddens me.

I think the real question becomes why would it matter if there was someone who is gay in a video game? I hate the stereotypes but there are gay fashion designers out there. However look at games like the sims or Bully, you can have guys kiss guys in those games, despite not needing to be stereotypically gay.

Being gay is a part of a characters development if they develop it, it adds a new side to them just as a relationship with a woman in the past could.
Hi5

You always make the best posts xD Lmao.
 
I have nothing against gays in games or otherwise. They are, after all, humans too. If you want to see a totally gay-game, then search for "Cho Aniki". The whole gameseries is very, very gay...You can also buy the first Aniki-game from the Virtual Console.
 
If I were to have a problem with homosexuality(whether that be in video games or not), I should have a problem with heterosexuals as well.

It's natural, no reason to be offended. Contrary to what some groups will force on you.

I've said this before: Supposed Christians who 'hate' gays give us a bad name. It's those same people who make you guys think we're an intolerable bunch of old-fashioned idiots.

This other forum I go to has a few like that and the whole entire forum hates him for it, among other things. We all believe that he's mentally challenged as he doesn't quite learn anything anyone tells him and he likes to insist that everyone's wrong and he's right; Especially when it comes to religion, he's gone as far as calling out other Christians for thinking a bit more open than others "like him".

But yeah, he's certainly mentally handicapped. We're 100% sure of it.
 
It depends on the game, really.
I obviously don't want it in games like Pokemon or Metroid, because I don't think that those games have something to do with ANYONE's sexuality.

However, I don't see a problem in games that are striving for more human interactions. Certain RPGs, gTA, stuff like that.
 
Sporge27 said:
Tola said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
It's fine with me, (as long as it's not overly stereotypical...) but like UB said it might hurt sales.


People don't HATE people for being gay, they HATE the stigma associated with gay people in the media.
No, there's a ton of people who just hate people for being gay, and it has nothing to do with the media. *coughChristianscough*
Again, no - normal people hate the stigma associated with the homosexual communities, as do I. It has everything to do with their portrayal in the media. Have you seen their disgusting parades? You don't need a religion to find that appaling.

Christians don't hate gay people for being gay, they just follow the course of their religion and think that the idea of a man sleeping with another man is reprehensible. They do not hate people for being gay - that is an uncontrollable biological feature. Who you sleep with, however, is controllable, and that is the logic by which the church goes.
You know what Tola? You do start fights everywhere on here.

Personally those parades can get weird but do you want to know why such a culture developed? It developed because of the large numbers of people rejected by their own families. That is sad. But gay people started sticking together and helped each other, made their own communities that breeds a new culture because they see themselves as so different. Being gay really isn't all that different but some people get that idea from how others treat them, which sad to say could include disgust from their own mother. Rejection bred a culture that embraced what many reject, which of course seems appalling to many. Heck I think they are really weird a lot of the time.

If you think that the people who reject their own children because they are gay do so for no reason I think most of the time the reason is religion, in this country most of the time meaning Christianity. I am not saying all Christians are no but to say that no Christians just hate gay people you are wrong. Many do, and it saddens me.

I think the real question becomes why would it matter if there was someone who is gay in a video game? I hate the stereotypes but there are gay fashion designers out there. However look at games like the sims or Bully, you can have guys kiss guys in those games, despite not needing to be stereotypically gay.

Being gay is a part of a characters development if they develop it, it adds a new side to them just as a relationship with a woman in the past could.
good job :P :P :gyroiddance:
 
dragonflamez said:
It depends on the game, really.
I obviously don't want it in games like Pokemon or Metroid, because I don't think that those games have something to do with ANYONE's sexuality.

However, I don't see a problem in games that are striving for more human interactions. Certain RPGs, gTA, stuff like that.
Honestly you are 100% right here, any game without any kind of dating, love, sex, lust, kissing, or even any inkling of relationships should never have to deal with it. I would like to see someone try make someone like Q-bert of any sexuality. Pokemon is a really good example though since there just ins't really any part dealing with relationships.... other than the day care center.... but you could put two males or two females in together... :P
 
I think the edited that story part out about Birdo in the USA because it's such a big deal here. I never once read about that in the USA booklet or anything. In the USA Gracie is a girl and Birdo is a girl. For all we know, Gracie could be a boy's name in Japan. And as portrayed, he/she looks like a girl because most fashion directors in movies and video games look odd and sound gay, but they're not and not supposed to be. Birdo has never been a guy in the USA and probably never will be. I think it would be a bit odd because every main romance is about a girl and a guy. It wouldn't sound right if you heard: "The prince went off to save his beloved prince." Mainly because most every rescue story is about a guy saving a girl and them falling in love. With the exceptions of some movies when they don't fall in love because the are not supposed to, say... Mario when he saves his brother Luigi.
 
Bacon Boy said:
I think the edited that story part out about Birdo in the USA because it's such a big deal here. I never once read about that in the USA booklet or anything. In the USA Gracie is a girl and Birdo is a girl. For all we know, Gracie could be a boy's name in Japan. And as portrayed, he/she looks like a girl because most fashion directors in movies and video games look odd and sound gay, but they're not and not supposed to be. Birdo has never been a guy in the USA and probably never will be. I think it would be a bit odd because every main romance is about a girl and a guy. It wouldn't sound right if you heard: "The prince went off to save his beloved prince." Mainly because most every rescue story is about a guy saving a girl and them falling in love. With the exceptions of some movies when they don't fall in love because the are not supposed to, say... Mario when he saves his brother Luigi.
Clearly you have never seen the children book king and king

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_&_King

Given I guess he isn't saving the other prince but close enough.
 
but do you think it is right to introduce something that sophisticated like homosexual love to someone so young?
 
ZELDAFREAK104 (dont know how to reply)

i was just joking xD
but also i think there are some "gays" on games like sims, GTA and other than i dont remember their names
 
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