Well, look at it this way. Before Other M, I didn't like the Metroid franchise. But now Other M has made me want to love it. I love Other M, but I just don't think I can bring myself to love the other games in the franchise, because they're just too different. I can't enjoy them like I can Other M. Other M is just my type of game, just as it isn't other people's type of game. I think the reason why Other M is surrounded by all this controversy is because it's a new direction to the franchise, and some fans don't like the change. And that makes sense, because at the same time, Other M is the first Metroid game that I can actually enjoy. It just appeals to a different crowd. That doesn't mean it's a bad game in any way, though, and it's unfortunate that so many reviewers are trying to make it out to be a bad game. It's an amazing game, at least to me and everyone else I've shown it to. If I had to review it, I'd give it a perfect 10, which doesn't happen often. I generally play games that I know I'll love, so it's not uncommon for me to rate games as 8s or 9s, but rarely do I play a game that's worthy of a perfect 10, but Other M deserves just that. It completely blew my expectations and brought me into a franchise that had always turned me away in the past.Psychonaut said:I don't just love metroid prime.. i just especially like it, due to detail and general awesomeness. especially due to the recreating of the 2d world of metroid in 3d.Tyeforce said:It's not that it's not as good as the Prime games, it's that it's a different type of game. A lot of the people who are complaining about Other M are people who are disappointed because it's not like the Prime games. Well, tough *censored.2.0*. It's a different game with a new gameplay style. If you prefer first person games like Metroid Prime, sorry, but you're not going to get that with Other M. However, if you prefer third person gameplay more with a little first person here and there like I do, then you'll love Other M. And there's more to it than that, but I'm not gonna post a wall of text right now.Psychonaut said:if it was difficult/harder.. why would everyone/i (to not speak for everyone) be saying it's easier/not good? :/Bacon Boy said:
true that MP had lock-on, was waiting for someone to say thatp) but you still had to aim at the target initially. iunno. haven't played it.
it isn't just as easy as "there's not pleasing people"
cool @ it being more storyline, but prime had a wonderful storyline that was told through the many, many, many different scannable items.
a different approach was taken in this game, and it was a nice change of pace i guess.. better than the same thing every time, but still, the story destroyed samus' hardass image that she had until around the time zero suit was in brawl, IIRC. but even then.. zero suit wasn't bad. still samus.
I like the 2d metroid games as well, and i'd go out on a limb and say a lot of the fans who dislike other M like at least one or two of the previous 2d games.
I honestly can't think of another game that is 2d, and has a little bit/any first person, throughout.. but again, they went out on a limb/a different path with this entry, and from the reviews/fan reaction, it didn't quite sell/work as it should have..
but eh. again, haven't experienced it, and don't think i'm really missing out on much. i'll probably rent it to be safe, though.
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Unofficial Official Metroid: Other M Thread
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You could almost say Metroid: Other M is mix between a manga and a game. It uses elements from the manga such as <div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;"><div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;"><div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;">when Samus fights Ridley, it flashes back to when she first met him as a child after he killed her parents.</div></div></div>
Therefore, it's not going to be your average Nintendo game. It all comes down to a matter of opinion. Whether you like it or not is based on a personal preference. The game mechanics have nothing to do with it, as they are easy to use. The people that say they're hard to use a five year old girls that prefer to play with dolls. Like pretty much any game, Other M is a pick up and play. It's not hard to understand the mechanics of.
Therefore, it's not going to be your average Nintendo game. It all comes down to a matter of opinion. Whether you like it or not is based on a personal preference. The game mechanics have nothing to do with it, as they are easy to use. The people that say they're hard to use a five year old girls that prefer to play with dolls. Like pretty much any game, Other M is a pick up and play. It's not hard to understand the mechanics of.
Psychonaut
Senior Member
I love how you compare those who dislike other m for it's controls to five year old girls.Bacon Boy said:
reminds me of when dubs said something of legos and mac users, and you rage'd about it.
lawls.
mix between a manga and a game.. how? that it's a game with story/cutscenes, or it's in black and white comic form for said cutscenes? or it did it in comic form, with still images being moved, alongside narration? (like infamous/sly cooper did/has done)
@ tye, i guess that makes sense in that it's a different metroid than every other.. but i kinda said that, with the whole "they're taking a new way, and that's good but it didn't work" thing..
edit: agree.
but i guess it got some new fans. i just think it's kinda sad that metroid always delivered to those who expected it to, and this game just kinda took a crap on them, like nintendo's been doing to non-casual only gamers as of late.
at least it had a good run of very good/near perfect games.
I should have said it told some of the story from the manga. That's what I meant by mix. Regardless, it still comes down to a matter of opinion.Psychonaut said:I love how you compare those who dislike other m for it's controls to five year old girls.Bacon Boy said:
reminds me of when dubs said something of legos and mac users, and you rage'd about it.
lawls.
mix between a manga and a game.. how? that it's a game with story/cutscenes, or it's in black and white comic form for said cutscenes? or it did it in comic form, with still images being moved, alongside narration? (like infamous/sly cooper did/has done)
@ tye, i guess that makes sense in that it's a different metroid than every other.. but i kinda said that, with the whole "they're taking a new way, and that's good but it didn't work" thing..
edit: agree.
but i guess it got some new fans. i just think it's kinda sad that metroid always delivered to those who expected it to, and this game just kinda took a crap on them, like nintendo's been doing to non-casual only gamers as of late.
at least it had a good run of very good/near perfect games.
Psychonaut
Senior Member
gotcha. i figured that was what you meant, but.. lolBacon Boy said:I should have said it told some of the story from the manga. That's what I meant by mix. Regardless, it still comes down to a matter of opinion.Psychonaut said:I love how you compare those who dislike other m for it's controls to five year old girls.Bacon Boy said:
reminds me of when dubs said something of legos and mac users, and you rage'd about it.
lawls.
mix between a manga and a game.. how? that it's a game with story/cutscenes, or it's in black and white comic form for said cutscenes? or it did it in comic form, with still images being moved, alongside narration? (like infamous/sly cooper did/has done)
@ tye, i guess that makes sense in that it's a different metroid than every other.. but i kinda said that, with the whole "they're taking a new way, and that's good but it didn't work" thing..
edit: agree.
but i guess it got some new fans. i just think it's kinda sad that metroid always delivered to those who expected it to, and this game just kinda took a crap on them, like nintendo's been doing to non-casual only gamers as of late.
at least it had a good run of very good/near perfect games.
and even then, it's just a fleshing out of the metroid story, proper.
until i saw it somewhere on the internet, i never knew there was a metroid manga, and even though i downloaded it, i still didn't actually read it.
O GOD SAMUS' MAWM
also, a story in a game doesn't have to take up all/a good majority of the game.. and it can be done/incorporated in many ways.
but yeah, opinion is always a big factor i guess.
Think metal Gear Solid cutscenes and divide by two.Psychonaut said:gotcha. i figured that was what you meant, but.. lolBacon Boy said:I should have said it told some of the story from the manga. That's what I meant by mix. Regardless, it still comes down to a matter of opinion.Psychonaut said:I love how you compare those who dislike other m for it's controls to five year old girls.Bacon Boy said:
reminds me of when dubs said something of legos and mac users, and you rage'd about it.
lawls.
mix between a manga and a game.. how? that it's a game with story/cutscenes, or it's in black and white comic form for said cutscenes? or it did it in comic form, with still images being moved, alongside narration? (like infamous/sly cooper did/has done)
@ tye, i guess that makes sense in that it's a different metroid than every other.. but i kinda said that, with the whole "they're taking a new way, and that's good but it didn't work" thing..
edit: agree.
but i guess it got some new fans. i just think it's kinda sad that metroid always delivered to those who expected it to, and this game just kinda took a crap on them, like nintendo's been doing to non-casual only gamers as of late.
at least it had a good run of very good/near perfect games.
and even then, it's just a fleshing out of the metroid story, proper.
until i saw it somewhere on the internet, i never knew there was a metroid manga, and even though i downloaded it, i still didn't actually read it.
O GOD SAMUS' MAWM
also, a story in a game doesn't have to take up all/a good majority of the game.. and it can be done/incorporated in many ways.
but yeah, opinion is always a big factor i guess.
Psychonaut
Senior Member
are they seriously that long?Bacon Boy said:Think metal Gear Solid cutscenes and divide by two.Psychonaut said:gotcha. i figured that was what you meant, but.. lolBacon Boy said:I should have said it told some of the story from the manga. That's what I meant by mix. Regardless, it still comes down to a matter of opinion.Psychonaut said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep<div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;"><div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;"><div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;">when Samus fights Ridley, it flashes back to when she first met him as a child after he killed her parents.</div></div></div>comic form, with still images being moved, alongside narration? (like infamous/sly cooper did/has done)
@ tye, i guess that makes sense in that it's a different metroid than every other.. but i kinda said that, with the whole "they're taking a new way, and that's good but it didn't work" thing..
edit: agree.
but i guess it got some new fans. i just think it's kinda sad that metroid always delivered to those who expected it to, and this game just kinda took a crap on them, like nintendo's been doing to non-casual only gamers as of late.
at least it had a good run of very good/near perfect games.
and even then, it's just a fleshing out of the metroid story, proper.
until i saw it somewhere on the internet, i never knew there was a metroid manga, and even though i downloaded it, i still didn't actually read it.
O GOD SAMUS' MAWM
also, a story in a game doesn't have to take up all/a good majority of the game.. and it can be done/incorporated in many ways.
but yeah, opinion is always a big factor i guess.
wee-ow. how'd they fit it on a dvd, then (dual layer or not)?
Since when could you shoot missles in 3rd person in this game? MR BACON?
"I think most people are hypocrites when it comes to Nintendo games. "All Nintendo games lack story and dialogue!" *Metroid: Other M comes out* *fans try to find errors in the game because it was difficult and harder than other Metroid games*
There's not pleasing people."
I'm not one of those people. Metroid was fine the way it was. And no, this is not the hardest Metroid. Metroid II, and MP02 take those crowns.
"cool @ it being more storyline, but prime had a wonderful storyline that was told through the many, many, many different scannable items." - Psycho
perfect line right here. Prime had you either running and gunning for those of you who enjoyed action, but had a story behind it all for those who cared to look and pay attention.
You're right, this is a new type of metroid game, mainly due to omgtalkingsamus but the "new gameplay" is just 2-D metroid with depth. It's nothing new. They took a 2-D map, dropped it on its side and said "run sideways instead of jumping up and down." You all seem to be thinking that we're comparing them to ONLY Prime, when it's a comparison with the entire franchise. As I said in my previous post, Fusion cut in half. As Psycho said, the hardass image of samus was fine up until now, even through Brawl's interpretation of her.
As for having to lock on to use missles, you could shoot missles whenever you pleased in the Prime series, as well as the rest of the series, and having lock on was due to the difficulty of shooting fast moving targets with a single analog control scheme with the gamecube controller. Prime Trilogy on the Wii makes aiming natural and fluid (and insanely satisfying), hence being able to shoot missles accurately without having to lock on.
If they had paid as much attention to the game as they did the cutscenes, perhaps the lackluster story would've been a minor issue, and there might've been more areas to explore, more bosses, something; anything. Would it have been so hard to let you hold the B trigger on the Wiimote held sideways and let you shoot missles that way in 3rd Person??
And also, I apologize for the wall of text earlier, I planned to post only once, but it seems all but 1 person actually read it.
Also, Tye, I'm not disappointed because it's not like the Prime games. No, I'm disappointed because it's not metroid. I have played, beaten, and enjoyed every single metroid game (prime hunters story mode aside) so I think I know a bit about what I'm talking about here...
"I think most people are hypocrites when it comes to Nintendo games. "All Nintendo games lack story and dialogue!" *Metroid: Other M comes out* *fans try to find errors in the game because it was difficult and harder than other Metroid games*
There's not pleasing people."
I'm not one of those people. Metroid was fine the way it was. And no, this is not the hardest Metroid. Metroid II, and MP02 take those crowns.
"cool @ it being more storyline, but prime had a wonderful storyline that was told through the many, many, many different scannable items." - Psycho
perfect line right here. Prime had you either running and gunning for those of you who enjoyed action, but had a story behind it all for those who cared to look and pay attention.
You're right, this is a new type of metroid game, mainly due to omgtalkingsamus but the "new gameplay" is just 2-D metroid with depth. It's nothing new. They took a 2-D map, dropped it on its side and said "run sideways instead of jumping up and down." You all seem to be thinking that we're comparing them to ONLY Prime, when it's a comparison with the entire franchise. As I said in my previous post, Fusion cut in half. As Psycho said, the hardass image of samus was fine up until now, even through Brawl's interpretation of her.
As for having to lock on to use missles, you could shoot missles whenever you pleased in the Prime series, as well as the rest of the series, and having lock on was due to the difficulty of shooting fast moving targets with a single analog control scheme with the gamecube controller. Prime Trilogy on the Wii makes aiming natural and fluid (and insanely satisfying), hence being able to shoot missles accurately without having to lock on.
If they had paid as much attention to the game as they did the cutscenes, perhaps the lackluster story would've been a minor issue, and there might've been more areas to explore, more bosses, something; anything. Would it have been so hard to let you hold the B trigger on the Wiimote held sideways and let you shoot missles that way in 3rd Person??
And also, I apologize for the wall of text earlier, I planned to post only once, but it seems all but 1 person actually read it.
Also, Tye, I'm not disappointed because it's not like the Prime games. No, I'm disappointed because it's not metroid. I have played, beaten, and enjoyed every single metroid game (prime hunters story mode aside) so I think I know a bit about what I'm talking about here...
In third person? Not without a certain program, you can't. But you can in first person.Hank Hill said:
Again, this will be the third time I've said this. It's all about a matter of opinion. I like the game for what it is, and you don't. I can speak for Tye and myself when I say this, no matter what you put in front of us, whether it be fact or opinion, our opinion on the game will not change.
I do, however, agree that when I said that it was one of the hardest, that was way overstated. Metroid Prime 2 was indeed one of the hardest, and also the best, out of the series. I meant in terms of hard mode, it was a bit more difficult.
Psychonaut
Senior Member
sure is fanboy in here. mirite?Bacon Boy said:
Right, that's the reason I'm wanting to play through it again...the hard mode that seems to be actually hard.
And I thought I'd seen you write on page 12 that you could fire missles in 3rd person.
In my opinion Prime was the best in the series, perhaps due to nostalgia from way back then, but then again, having played it more recently on Trilogy, it's still kickass.
Dat Musickz.
And I thought I'd seen you write on page 12 that you could fire missles in 3rd person.
In my opinion Prime was the best in the series, perhaps due to nostalgia from way back then, but then again, having played it more recently on Trilogy, it's still kickass.
Dat Musickz.
Psychonaut
Senior Member
sup?Hank Hill said:
wee-ooo-wee-oooo-WEEE-ooo-Weeee-oooo-WEEE-oooooooooooo
weeee-ooo-wee-oooo-wee-ooo-oo-weeeeeeeeeee
@ epic musics
I got it confused. I thought he was talking about first person. I read it over and over again to make sure I was reading it right. Apparently not. /idiocyPsychonaut said:
The prime series has awesome music along with awesome remixes (stemage & ocremix).
The biggest thing, however, that disappointed me with Other M was the lack of music. I could barely hear any, aside form the orchestral scores in the cutscene.
Psychonaut
Senior Member
you *censored.2.0*tin me?Bacon Boy said:
Q.Q METROID IS DEAD
Psychonaut
Senior Member
music = metroidBacon Boy said:
Metroid usually has great music.Psychonaut said:music = metroidBacon Boy said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuPJm2XQT0A
^ Example
Psychonaut
Senior Member
i know..Bacon Boy said:Metroid usually has great music.Psychonaut said:music = metroidBacon Boy said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuPJm2XQT0A
^ Example
which is why other m means metroid is dead.
lack of music. </3
