Krissi2197
wolf pack fanatic
Youd be scandalous to disagree bc my Whitney and Audie are 100% girlfriends xD
The official Animal Crossing: New Horizons guide revealed the relationship between Flick and C.J.
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Lillyshins
Senior Member
Well for what it's worth. I absolutely took it as a "romantic partner" when CJ said that. But then again, I refer to my wife as my partner quite frequently. So it feels rather natural to hear a SO referred to like that.
But seriously... If you cant handle 2 same sex characters together in a video game there NO FRIGGIN WAY you are okay with same sex couples irl. Quit fooling yourselves.
But seriously... If you cant handle 2 same sex characters together in a video game there NO FRIGGIN WAY you are okay with same sex couples irl. Quit fooling yourselves.
coffee biscuit
blelele
They may not be an official couple but that's not gonna stop me from thinking that they're adorable together =D
people who are getting angry and defensive abt people interpreting two video game animals as being gay need to take a long hard look at themselves. it's harmless and if you can't even handle that then i can only imagine how horribly homophobic u must be irl lmao.
Krissi2197
wolf pack fanatic
Krissi2197
wolf pack fanatic
I think it's implied? In the Japanese dialogue at least. I remember seeing a post saying that CJ mentions that him and Flick's fathers are friends, which is how they met and grew up together.
EDIT: Flick also mentions at some point that his dad and him don't get along too well because his dad likes to eat bugs.
Aleigh
sans n pap need to be protected under all costs
that makes everything so much better
it funny cause cj looks like chip and well flick looks nothing like nat hahaha
Krissi2197
wolf pack fanatic
Well they're both chameleons so maybe Flick just decides to be red/Nat decides to be green!!
Aleigh
sans n pap need to be protected under all costs
jfc this thread is toxic. Accusing people who disagree with you of being bigots or delusional and simple-minded has a chilling effect on constructive discussion.
I think it's very interesting that NoA decided to translate "friend" (tomodachi) to "partner", and I agree with others here - that was deliberate and the word "partner" does indeed have romantic connotations. So no I don't think people are 'reading into' it or reaching and they can't be blamed for that.
I think this is a pretty classic example of queerbaiting: "Queerbaiting is a marketing technique for fiction and entertainment in which creators hint at, but then do not actually depict, same-sex romance or other forms of LGBTQ representation. They do so to attract ("bait") a queer or straight ally audience with the suggestion of relationships or characters that appeal to them, while at the same time attempting to avoid alienating other consumers."
Some people like that. Others might be offended by it as a half-measure. Others might be frustrated at friendships routinely being given romantic overtones and you know what? Those people aren't bigots for it. Some people are asexual or otherwise not in romantic relationships or just don't want those overtones pushed on them. And sometimes it can be seen as insulting on the part of the media's creators - like two girls can't appear together on screen unless they are either (a) there to talk about how wonderful a man is or (b) being lesbians for a male audience. Because everyone knows girls can't be friends! Girls hate each other! Right??
It's a complicated topic and people should be compassionate to others' viewpoints and try to assume the best of others, especially in these difficult times. People are already isolated enough as it is and there's so much negativity out there, so let's try to be understanding.
I think it's very interesting that NoA decided to translate "friend" (tomodachi) to "partner", and I agree with others here - that was deliberate and the word "partner" does indeed have romantic connotations. So no I don't think people are 'reading into' it or reaching and they can't be blamed for that.
I think this is a pretty classic example of queerbaiting: "Queerbaiting is a marketing technique for fiction and entertainment in which creators hint at, but then do not actually depict, same-sex romance or other forms of LGBTQ representation. They do so to attract ("bait") a queer or straight ally audience with the suggestion of relationships or characters that appeal to them, while at the same time attempting to avoid alienating other consumers."
Some people like that. Others might be offended by it as a half-measure. Others might be frustrated at friendships routinely being given romantic overtones and you know what? Those people aren't bigots for it. Some people are asexual or otherwise not in romantic relationships or just don't want those overtones pushed on them. And sometimes it can be seen as insulting on the part of the media's creators - like two girls can't appear together on screen unless they are either (a) there to talk about how wonderful a man is or (b) being lesbians for a male audience. Because everyone knows girls can't be friends! Girls hate each other! Right??
It's a complicated topic and people should be compassionate to others' viewpoints and try to assume the best of others, especially in these difficult times. People are already isolated enough as it is and there's so much negativity out there, so let's try to be understanding.
Oh yeah! How could I forget our favorite couple? I still want to see them back with a little purple alpaca kiddo.
omigosh that would be so cute!!
IonicKarma
Wishful Phoenix
Ship them or don't ship them, either way is fine. Nintendo likely wouldn't ever officially make them a pair because its too risky in a children's game but don't let that stop you if you want to!
Let's keep this thread friendly so it doesn't get locked. I'd like to applaud those who took the initiative to step back when things got heated. As long as people can discuss this topic civilly then it has a place here. Reminder that being a member of the LGBT+ community is not something inherently adult in nature. LGBT+ representation in media aimed at family-friendly audiences is on the rise to help normalise being gay and/or transgender and erase the stigma that it is something dirty, abnormal, or to be ashamed of.
On that note, my first interpretation of CJ referring to Flick as his "partner" was romantic too and then business as an afterthought. I figured that was likely me projecting onto the characters and didn't think other people had made the connection too!
On that note, my first interpretation of CJ referring to Flick as his "partner" was romantic too and then business as an afterthought. I figured that was likely me projecting onto the characters and didn't think other people had made the connection too!
DinoTown
Festive Fossil
I saw it mentioned a lot but I wanna point out that 'partner' doesn't even explicitly mean 'significant other of the same gender' but just straight (hah) up 'significant other'.
My mum refers to her fiancee as her 'partner' and vice versa but they are 100% cis and straight so. Yeah. The first thing I see when C.J. says his partner is 'oh cute he got a boyfriend'
My mum refers to her fiancee as her 'partner' and vice versa but they are 100% cis and straight so. Yeah. The first thing I see when C.J. says his partner is 'oh cute he got a boyfriend'
Dragostea Din Tei
Senior Member
jfc this thread is toxic. Accusing people who disagree with you of being bigots or delusional and simple-minded has a chilling effect on constructive discussion.
I think it's very interesting that NoA decided to translate "friend" (tomodachi) to "partner", and I agree with others here - that was deliberate and the word "partner" does indeed have romantic connotations. So no I don't think people are 'reading into' it or reaching and they can't be blamed for that.
I think this is a pretty classic example of queerbaiting: "Queerbaiting is a marketing technique for fiction and entertainment in which creators hint at, but then do not actually depict, same-sex romance or other forms of LGBTQ representation. They do so to attract ("bait") a queer or straight ally audience with the suggestion of relationships or characters that appeal to them, while at the same time attempting to avoid alienating other consumers."
Some people like that. Others might be offended by it as a half-measure. Others might be frustrated at friendships routinely being given romantic overtones and you know what? Those people aren't bigots for it. Some people are asexual or otherwise not in romantic relationships or just don't want those overtones pushed on them. And sometimes it can be seen as insulting on the part of the media's creators - like two girls can't appear together on screen unless they are either (a) there to talk about how wonderful a man is or (b) being lesbians for a male audience. Because everyone knows girls can't be friends! Girls hate each other! Right??
It's a complicated topic and people should be compassionate to others' viewpoints and try to assume the best of others, especially in these difficult times. People are already isolated enough as it is and there's so much negativity out there, so let's try to be understanding.
If they dislike queerbaiting so much then they should blame the people who write the characters that way, not the "delusional" lgbt fanbase that is only having fun with the little representation we get
But no, it' s easier to pick a petty fight agaisnt gay ppl for "overreacting" and "ruining the friendship" of two fictional characters as if it was our fault the media loves to queerbait us
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Also there are already enough portrayals of friendship in media, specially between people of the same gender because that is all they are allowed to be in most media. Why you all acting as if there was a shortage of m/m or f/f friendships every time gay couples are mentioned? If there is a shortage of friendships in media its for friendships between men and women because those can't even breathe the same air without being made a couple.
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