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STORMTROOPERS OR CLONETROOPERS

Bacon Boy said:
stormcommander said:
Clonetroopers are the same thing as stormtroopers.
except they have less the tech and gear and they have more Generals and different variations.
Stormtroopers don't really have much of a background, you always see them getting killed in Star Wars, but Clones, you see them owning in Games, Movies, Cartoons, and novels :D Republic Commandos was a great game to prove that ;)
 
Master Crash said:
Bacon Boy said:
stormcommander said:
Clonetroopers are the same thing as stormtroopers.
except they have less the tech and gear and they have more Generals and different variations.
Stormtroopers don't really have much of a background, you always see them getting killed in Star Wars, but Clones, you see them owning in Games, Movies, Cartoons, and novels :D Republic Commandos was a great game to prove that ;)
Hah, yeah. They really messed up with how bad they made the bucket-heads out to be. They can't aim, they always die off like that, and they're absolutely stupid. Then, Obi-Wan makes the comment,"The blasts marks are too accurate for Sand People". Also, Sand People are actually have good marksmanship, but that's off topic...
 
KHero said:
Well, yeah, but the Jango clones died out quickly after the Clone Wars and the Rise of the Empire because of their accelerated lives. The Spaarti clone canisters completely slipped my mind, but yes, they did have clones, but they were spread few and far between, and their training processes were extremely different.
They talk about accelerated growth, but it never implies any of these specifics. For example, what if it only accelerated the growth, not the entire life? It wouldn't make much sense to have your soldiers die off sooner than a normal person if you're trying to add all these bonuses.
 
Master Crash said:
Bacon Boy said:
stormcommander said:
Clonetroopers are the same thing as stormtroopers.
except they have less the tech and gear and they have more Generals and different variations.
Stormtroopers don't really have much of a background, you always see them getting killed in Star Wars, but Clones, you see them owning in Games, Movies, Cartoons, and novels :D Republic Commandos was a great game to prove that ;)
That's because they switch from the good guys to the bad guys and most films/games/etc are in the point of view of the good guys.

Hah, yeah. They really messed up with how bad they made the bucket-heads out to be. They can't aim, they always die off like that, and they're absolutely stupid. Then, Obi-Wan makes the comment,"The blasts marks are too accurate for Sand People". Also, Sand People are actually have good marksmanship, but that's off topic...

Well think of one of those Tusken rifles at close range against a Jawa compared to a blaster. =o I think Tuskens would be far better at long range shooting, which wouldn't work against Jawas because they'd all just run inside the big crawler.
 
stormcommander said:
KHero said:
Well, yeah, but the Jango clones died out quickly after the Clone Wars and the Rise of the Empire because of their accelerated lives. The Spaarti clone canisters completely slipped my mind, but yes, they did have clones, but they were spread few and far between, and their training processes were extremely different.
They talk about accelerated growth, but it never implies any of these specifics. For example, what if it only accelerated the growth, not the entire life? It wouldn't make much sense to have your soldiers die off sooner than a normal person if you're trying to add all these bonuses.
Yeah, clones usually had a life of about 20 years, I think. Oh, I guess I mis-phrased it. Their whole life is accelerated so they can be bred faster. The reason they did this was because they had to grow a huge army fast.

Edit: Yeah, but they do have good marksmanship, nonetheless. Also, what your saying is correct, but they'd just go in after them.
 
KHero said:
stormcommander said:
KHero said:
Well, yeah, but the Jango clones died out quickly after the Clone Wars and the Rise of the Empire because of their accelerated lives. The Spaarti clone canisters completely slipped my mind, but yes, they did have clones, but they were spread few and far between, and their training processes were extremely different.
They talk about accelerated growth, but it never implies any of these specifics. For example, what if it only accelerated the growth, not the entire life? It wouldn't make much sense to have your soldiers die off sooner than a normal person if you're trying to add all these bonuses.
Yeah, clones usually had a life of about 20 years, I think. Oh, I guess I mis-phrased it. Their whole life is accelerated so they can be bred faster. The reason they did this was because they had to grow a huge army fast.

Edit: Yeah, but they do have good marksmanship, nonetheless. Also, what your saying is correct, but they'd just go in after them.
But you're probably making the 20 year thing up... I haven't seen it anywhere. =o I don't think it ever says their entire life is accelerated. If it's possible to accelerate growth, why not have it only affect them as they become an adult? Either way, they still cloned some of their best soldiers after the Republic became an Empire.
 
Hmm, you are correct. It doesn't say anything about their life being accelerated.>.<
But, I do know that this is true, but I guess that they might have stopped the entire life acceleration thing after a wwhile into the Clone Wars, because it was originally done to grow the Grand Army fast so that they would be ready when the war began. "If it's possible to accelerate growth, why not have it only affect them as they become an adult?", did you mean only affect them as a adolescent, because then the adult, trained and battle ready clones would last longer? Yes, you are correct about that last part.
 
KHero said:
Hmm, you are correct. It doesn't say anything about their life being accelerated.>.<
But, I do know that this is true, but I guess that they might have stopped the entire life acceleration thing after a wwhile into the Clone Wars, because it was originally done to grow the Grand Army fast so that they would be ready when the war began. "If it's possible to accelerate growth, why not have it only affect them as they become an adult?", did you mean only affect them as a adolescent, because then the adult, trained and battle ready clones would last longer? Yes, you are correct about that last part.
I said as they became an adult, meaning it would go back to normal once they reach it. And what do you mean you know it's true? Didn't you just contradict your second sentence? :P
 
Stormtroopers > Clonetroopers

I don't particularly like the Clone troopers. I prefer the droids over them.
 
bdubs2594 said:
Stormtroopers > Clonetroopers

I don't particularly like the Clone troopers. I prefer the droids over them.
Clones are better :r

All the Storms did in the movie was die xD
 
Anyone who doesn't know what they're talking about doesn't know what they're talking about.

In a strictly technological sense, Stormtroopers ARE better.
 
stormcommander said:
KHero said:
Hmm, you are correct. It doesn't say anything about their life being accelerated.>.<
But, I do know that this is true, but I guess that they might have stopped the entire life acceleration thing after a wwhile into the Clone Wars, because it was originally done to grow the Grand Army fast so that they would be ready when the war began. "If it's possible to accelerate growth, why not have it only affect them as they become an adult?", did you mean only affect them as a adolescent, because then the adult, trained and battle ready clones would last longer? Yes, you are correct about that last part.
I said as they became an adult, meaning it would go back to normal once they reach it. And what do you mean you know it's true? Didn't you just contradict your second sentence? :P
I didn't see the became thing, and what I meant was that it says so in the books, but it's not on any Star Wars info sites I go on.
I phailed too bad. xd
 
Bell_Hunter said:
Clones ARE better. Anyone who played Star Wars BattleFront would know.
Dude. You can use cheats to auto win. And if you deck out your arsenal, you're bound to win. Seriously.
 
Stormtroopers would be more advanced in theory (since they are more modern), but I'd assume that their motivation would be less.
 
Everybody knows Clone Troopers are better. (Except in Timothy Zahn's books where they are clearly smarter than depicted.) But Clone Troppers are smarter and they started Stormtroopers.
 
Tom said:
Bell_Hunter said:
Clones ARE better. Anyone who played Star Wars BattleFront would know.
Dude. You can use cheats to auto win. And if you deck out your arsenal, you're bound to win. Seriously.
You could use cheats to win, but who does that, seriously? Also, I would have to agree that clones are somewhat better in battlefront (2 at least).

As for the accelerated growth discussion...........in Episode 2 as Obi-Wan is being shown the clones I believe that he was told their growth was sped up. It does seem quite logical, because the clones were made 10 years earlier and many of them (thousands) were adults.
 
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