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Original VS Piracy

Hey Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone PC was ****ing awesome. Do you guys even play games?

I haven't heard of that game, and I'm not interested in Harry Potter games lol. (I do love the books) EA has its ups but mostly downs. So it's kinda hard to imagine EA making good games now a days.

 
Hey Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone PC was ******* awesome. Do you guys even game?

Best thing to happen to the industry, all thanks to EA.
Ehh, the Prisoner of Azkaban game was better. At least the one I played, PS2 version. Anything after that was crap.
 
Ehh, the Prisoner of Azkaban game was better. At least the one I played, PS2 version. Anything after that was crap.

I can tell you that I played PoA and it did in no way reach the glory days of Harry Potter PS and CoS on the PC and GBC. Yeas, that was a damn fine HP game, but incomparable to the first two. You have to put it in it's own tier though because everything after it was near mediocre. The last two were just tragic.

and of course the books were better but you only live long enough to read two thousand books so you have to explore all the mediums of Harry Potter to get the complete experience.
 
I can tell you that I played PoA and it did in no way reach the glory days of Harry Potter PS and CoS on the PC and GBC. Yeas, that was a damn fine HP game, but incomparable to the first two. You have to put it in it's own tier though because everything after it was near mediocre. The last two were just tragic.

and of course the books were better but you only live long enough to read two thousand books so you have to explore all the mediums of Harry Potter to get the complete experience.
I pirated the first two games and bought PoA so maybe that's why I like the latter more.
 
Yes I know, I was being silly ;p

Not really sure how to approach a thread in which half of the responses are probably going to be fundamentally wrong. With big tv series they usually get a boost in popularity from word of mouth and the pirates but it doesn't seem to work that way in gaming. More often than not it hurts the little guys on lower wages that may even be in the same position as you, that is not having enough to afford new games. It's easy to put a big corporate face on the companies you may pirate from but the people it takes effect on are a whole lot different. They may not even work for the company

Publishers might try all kinds of crazy things to widen the profit margins and that includes cutting corners on the game. Seems like the better option when you think about how much of a stink the gaming community would kick up if they raised the prices. It really doesn't matter whether you were going to buy the game or not because the people with the power to make the call are only thinking in money - how much they actually made and what they could have had.

It's even worse with books. If you meet a small time author anytime, anywhere, they can tell you for sure how much pirating an e-book sucks for them. They lose out massively in the profits.
 
I'm actually still very traditional. I collect CDs and DVDs (mostly from 2nd hand markets) because my dad has a massive collection that he has accumulated over the years, which just looks waaaay cool in his living room, and I really want to do the same. Whenever he has people over they love to look through the movies and CDs and it makes for really interesting convos and good socializing! So I tend to buy a lot, TV shows however I stream online... Because I don't have TV.
In addition to my CDs I pay for Spotify premium on my smartphone with my bro. We share the account.

I also buy all my videogames, because I can't be bothered with the crap illegal torrents come with and the frequent issues. I buy digital copies though, Guild Wars 2 is the only physical copy of a game I still have.

I also only buy physical copies of comic books, I tried digital (both legal and illegal copies) but I reeeeaaally hated it. I buy 2nd hand though so it's cheaper than even digital copies. It also limits the amount I have because they are seriously starting to take up space hahaha.

So yeah overall I still pay for most of my entertainment even though I buy a lot of it from 2nd hand market which doesn't profit the company. I mostly do it for collection purposes.

I have nothing against people who download or stream though. I feel like the problem is not so much price but rather availability. It seems most people who download do it because they don't want to go out and buy or wait for an order to arrive. Thankfully this is changing with sites like steam and netflix and spotify and whatnot, and a majority of people, when they are enthusiastic about the movies and games and music they like, would rather pay for higher quality and support of the makers than stream or download.

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EA's games suck anyway, why bother pirating?

Dude what the heck, have you never played Spore? Still one of my favorite games. XD
I quite enjoyed the Sims 2 back in the day as well, but it was basically only fun with heaps of cheat codes and mods.
 
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lol I just realised you're saying that people who work just for the money are greedy. You're 16, so I guess you've no concept of the real world. Maybe when you're having to eke out a living to pay for rent, bills, food and support a family, your life view will change.

Of course, me being 16, I am still so ignorant and do not understand the real world at all. I can't possibly understand how hard it is to get a job, because I'm just a stupid teenager who relies on their mum. I'm only 16, it's not like I'm already being forced to try and plan out my career now by my teachers and school. No. I'm sorry, but I really disagree. Yes, I know it's hard to get a job, and people will literally do anything to get a job, but what is the point in having a job you absolutely despise and only do it for the money? I know some people literally have just got to do whatever they can because maybe that's the only thing they can get, but I've seen a person close to me recently had their physical and mental wellbeing just be completely destroyed because they are so worn out as they hate their job. YES, they still have to do it for the money, but really, what is the point in doing a job you hate if it's damaging you that much so much you're literally depressed? You have to enjoy your job because you do it for a living, day in, day out (mostly if we're talking about a full-time job). You can keep doing things for the money for so long, but will it ever last when you're in that state? But hey. Maybe I'm just a stupid teenager who knows nothing about the real world.
 
Believe it or not, some teachers teach because they love teaching and being around children.

Money is just something extra for them.
 
Of course, me being 16, I am still so ignorant and do not understand the real world at all. I can't possibly understand how hard it is to get a job, because I'm just a stupid teenager who relies on their mum. I'm only 16, it's not like I'm already being forced to try and plan out my career now by my teachers and school. No. I'm sorry, but I really disagree. Yes, I know it's hard to get a job, and people will literally do anything to get a job, but what is the point in having a job you absolutely despise and only do it for the money? I know some people literally have just got to do whatever they can because maybe that's the only thing they can get, but I've seen a person close to me recently had their physical and mental wellbeing just be completely destroyed because they are so worn out as they hate their job. YES, they still have to do it for the money, but really, what is the point in doing a job you hate if it's damaging you that much so much you're literally depressed? You have to enjoy your job because you do it for a living, day in, day out (mostly if we're talking about a full-time job). You can keep doing things for the money for so long, but will it ever last when you're in that state? But hey. Maybe I'm just a stupid teenager who knows nothing about the real world.

This is a very respectful point of view, but also idealist and na?ve.
don't really feel like giving a detailed economy lecture right now though. XD You have to understand that companies can't exist without constantly increasing amounts of money (to attract investors to lend them money, because no company can depend on it's own funds). And companies in decline will fire people among other things. So even if you love your job and feel happy that people enjoy what you do, when you work in the company you must always keep in mind that the objective is to always increase the amount of income. it's just how our capitalist system works, companies are a very major pillar of it money must keep going from pocket to pocket non stop. If it stays stuck in one place for too long (household savings) the balance is lost. Which is ultimately what happens when people get a lot of stuff for free.
Do you understand? :) It's actually fascinating to study how all of this works. If you take micro/macro/global economy courses someday you will learn a lot about that.

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Believe it or not, some teachers teach because they love teaching and being around children.

Money is just something extra for them.

Well, teachers are paid by the government and even though their pay is rather low they have very safe jobs, they don't have the huge pressure companies have. :)
 
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As someone who professionally makes games (no commercial releases yet though);

A decent amount of pirates usually fall into two categories; kids who have no money anyway (imo it's perfectly fine for them to pirate stuff, and they can prove to be enthusiastic fans even if they are pirates!), and people who just hoard software and don't actually use it. In my opinion the most a developer can do is just be polite and ask that any pirate who enjoys their software to try to find a way to buy a legit copy.

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And out of everything, buying an original game and downloading it, they re just same but one different is you play pirated, done and delete but original game? Will you play it for the second time?

Hah, there's no reason to delete the original game and replay it... I think it's a perfectly legitimate option to pay after you finish it. I say that with a caveat though; if you play a game through to the end and you can pay for it, you should... whether or not you pay shouldn't be something you decide after the fact, based on whether or not you thought it was the best game ever. That would be like not paying for a movie or rollercoaster after you watched / took a ride.
 
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This is a very respectful point of view, but also idealist and na?ve.
don't really feel like giving a detailed economy lecture right now though. XD You have to understand that companies can't exist without constantly increasing amounts of money (to attract investors to lend them money, because no company can depend on it's own funds). And companies in decline will fire people among other things. So even if you love your job and feel happy that people enjoy what you do, when you work in the company you must always keep in mind that the objective is to always increase the amount of income. it's just how our capitalist system works, companies are a very major pillar of it money must keep going from pocket to pocket non stop. If it stays stuck in one place for too long (household savings) the balance is lost. Which is ultimately what happens when people get a lot of stuff for free.
Do you understand? :) It's actually fascinating to study how all of this works. If you take micro/macro/global economy courses someday you will learn a lot about that.

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Well, teachers are paid by the government and even though their pay is rather low they have very safe jobs, they don't have the huge pressure companies have. :)

Tell that to my teacher, because evry time he steps into class he looks like a depressed zoo keeper trying to train 39 monkeys LOL.

But seriously though, some people love their jobs. Probably because they have achieved their dream jobs, like working for a company, or being a chef in a kitchen etc.
Even though they are pressured, some people love their jobs. Why? We don't know. I guess they just put passion into what they are doing and they feel that nothing can put them down at all. That's just what I think though.
 
Oh course people love their jobs, and thank goodness for that! Even stressed out money hungry CEOs ultimately love what they do. Because they are successful at it and it is rewarding to evolve in a work environment, pressure and liabilities are just part of the bundle. That doesn't stop the fact that money is still the main driver and it HAS to be.

And being a teacher is an exhausting job haha. My mom is a teacher and she loves her job so much but sometimes she's just exhausted and says she'd like to strangle some of her kids hahaha!
 
Pirating is illegal, so that's why a lot of people buy games legitimately. I love it when developers add something into the game that messes it up for pirates. It's hilarious when people get caught off-guard by it and ask around on forums, exposing their actions. Sure, pirating a game and showing it to your friends would technically be free advertising, but if you have money and are willing to buy a game, why don't you? If someone never had the intention of purchasing a game, you can argue that it's fine for them to pirate it because the company/developers technically wouldn't lose any money, but that doesn't exactly justify the act of pirating. I don't like pirating my games, other media, or buying fake items because they're cheaper. I like collecting and displaying my phyiscal cases, items, etc. I hate it when I find out something I bought is fake, and I always prefer buying things brand new from somewhere official whenever possible. If I can't afford something, I'll just wait until I can. I understand that not everyone has the patience for this/wants to wait at all and it's very irritating to wait sometimes, but it's honestly the best thing to do. Unfortunately, a lot of people would disagree with that and would just pirate something immediately. I understand why they do, but it does damage companies when you pirate their games. You can't bundle everyone together and claim they're all only doing it for the money because a lot of people love their job. If the piracy is too damaging to the company, these people may not be able to keep their jobs in the end.

Sadly, it's impossible to stop everyone from pirating games. All developers can do is kindly ask people to buy their games and hope that's what they do.
 
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I think piracy is wrong, but sometimes with prices I think they're just taking the piss (e.g. with Sims expansion packs), especially if I've already given what I think is a lot of money to that company. Also, I'm broke. I'll make up for piracy when I'm older and actually have money to pay for things xD
I usually buy games though - I want to support the companies that make games that give me entertainment. However I can't remember the last time I bought a DVD...
 
I think consoles nowadays are built to prevent pirated games to work
Pirates always find a way. Since the PS2 adding/replacing stuff in the chipset made it possible to play pirated games. It's even possible to flash the PS3 and run custom firmware that allows everything. All you need to do is find the weakness in the software and/or hardware and exploit it.
 
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