Original VS Piracy

[Lassy]

I think consoles nowadays are built to prevent pirated games to work

This is the case for some software a such as Microsoft office 2014. You won't find ANY way to have it illegally. Microsoft was very smart in finding a way stop people from hacking the software. (One of the reasons why my friend bought it)
If you want the software that will never expire (some will expire but you can have it on several computers), you have to pay with the individual pack for 100 $ (that was my price and I had the student version)

 

[Aran]

When comparing release prices to grabbing a game for free, it's difficult to not pirate - especially when you really, really want to try out the game but don't have the funds to do so. Yes, yes, if you don't have the money then you should wait until you have it. I agree that this is the 'right' action to take, unfortunately I rarely take that road (depends on the game).

I personally have purchased most of the games I have pirated in the past. If I haven't purchased it, it's because I haven't caught it on sale yet or I didn't enjoy the game enough to warrant playing it ever again. The funny thing is, sometimes I don't even play the game after I purchase it since I already ran through it a few times on a pirated copy - I played those games when I had a lot more free time on my hands, and a slightly better machine to run games on. If I really really like a game, I sometimes purchase it for like... different consoles. I have Mass Effect 2 on both Steam and for my PS3 (both versions I don't play - I don't have a good computer for ME2, and my PS3's at home so I only play during vacations). I own FF7 for Steam, the original PS1, and also own the PSN version. Pirated Bioshock 2 and Infinite; now I own all three games (and purchased Infinite's Burial at Sea DLC at full price).

I'm not buying these games after pirating them out of some sense of moral obligation. I know there are demos available for many games, so saying that I want to try the games before buying them isn't really a watertight excuse. In fact, I'm not sure if I have an excuse other than the fact that I mostly pirated when I didn't have my own source of pitiful income, or when I knew certain big name games would go on sale sooner rather than later (I would have hated myself if I paid $60 for Bioshock Infinite, only for all three Bioshock games to go on sale for $15 one year later). I can only say that I like knowing that I actually own a game, but find it difficult to justify their initial price tags.

 

[Kildor]

Some softwares are just asking to be pirated. My father is an architect so he had to make 3D models for his projects.

He found this software called Autodesk 3DS Max (Autodesk is commonly used by architects) but only to find out the software costs $3675.
More than his salary. ;-; The most expensive software that I have ever seen in my life.

 

[MisterEnigma]

Some softwares are just asking to be pirated. My father is an architect so he had to make 3D models for his projects.

He found this software called Autodesk 3DS Max (Autodesk is commonly used by architects) but only to find out the software costs $3675.
More than his salary. ;-; The most expensive software that I have ever seen in my life.

I had to go through my school to get any of the Adobe programs I needed for class and to continue my art with. It helps with the cost, comes to about 1/3 the price, but a 1/3 of thousands of dollars isn't really saying much. I paid this only once a few years ago, I can't even imagine what the suites are selling for now. Does his place of business offer any special deals for investments in programs that your father can use? I know for sure schools offer some kind of benefit, but I'm not sure about in the work field.

 

[Kildor]

I had to go through my school to get any of the Adobe programs I needed for class and to continue my art with. It helps with the cost, comes to about 1/3 the price, but a 1/3 of thousands of dollars isn't really saying much. I paid this only once a few years ago, I can't even imagine what the suites are selling for now. Does his place of business offer any special deals for investments in programs that your father can use? I know for sure schools offer some kind of benefit, but I'm not sure about in the work field.

From what I know, his company does not offer specials deals for his programs. It's up to the architects to decide which program they want to use, but they have to spend their own money to use it. So what my father did was that he borrowed a trial copy from his colleague. He had to make do with what he was given, because 3675 dollars for a slow 3D Model renderer is way too much.

 

[davidfosterwallace]

Consider this: the advent of piracy also functions as free advertising?except that this kind of "advertising" is particularly potent because it does not appear that way.

 

[Reindeer]

From what I know, his company does not offer specials deals for his programs. It's up to the architects to decide which program they want to use, but they have to spend their own money to use it. So what my father did was that he borrowed a trial copy from his colleague. He had to make do with what he was given, because 3675 dollars for a slow 3D Model renderer is way too much.

Actually the speed at which 3D modeling programs render is often dependent on your computer CPU and GPU, along with RAM. Think of it as Crysis 3 and you're forcing your computer to play it at the highest settings even though it's a laptop from 1995. It's a hyperbole to the nth degree, but I hope you get my point.

And at least it's not as expensive as the Adobe Font Folio, which is like $10k. For fonts.

 

[sn0wxyuki]

Some softwares are just asking to be pirated. My father is an architect so he had to make 3D models for his projects.

He found this software called Autodesk 3DS Max (Autodesk is commonly used by architects) but only to find out the software costs $3675.
More than his salary. ;-; The most expensive software that I have ever seen in my life.

Autodesk is one, and he also need 3D Max and some other modelling software that cause more than 3000+. It's crazy so we choose pirated on that =x

 

[Liquid Ocelot]

/checks to make sure no one is looking

Look.

Get whatever you can safely get. Don't pirate the big stuff. If you're looking for certain kinds of software- say, Microsoft Office (which costs a buttload), there are substitutes that work just as well, if not BETTER than the original for no money. (If you don't have OpenOffice, go freaking get it right now.) There's also creative commons stuff, and indie games that are pretty awesome that cost all of nothing.

BASICALLY, just don't fill up an entire hard-drive with stuff, and don't be stupid.

 

[staticistic1114]

Pirates always find a way. Since the PS2 adding/replacing stuff in the chipset made it possible to play pirated games. It's even possible to flash the PS3 and run custom firmware that allows everything. All you need to do is find the weakness in the software and/or hardware and exploit it.

I dunno I think maybe that's bcuz technology is still developing, in time I think pirated stuff wont work at all

 

[DJStarstryker]

Pirating is illegal and I want to support things that I like (or think I'll like).

I suppose the closest thing I do to illegal on a regular basis is using a proxy to be able to watch region locked stuff on Hulu, YouTube, Crunchyroll, etc. These are things that are available for free legally, but just because my ISP is in Japan, so many streaming sites are blocked off to me. It's very irritating. I still have to watch the same commercials anyone else would so the company is still getting money from me watching. So I don't see what's wrong with it.

 

[Colour Bandit]

The only time I have pirated anything is when I needed to watch one of my film texts for my media studies A-Level. It was a film I didn't like to start with so I didn't want the DVD, after I got all my notes from the film I deleted the file. It was a pain to download it so I'm not going through all that again! It was the only option I had though as no one in my family owned the film on DVD, none of my friends did, all of my classmates had been in class to watch the film ( I had been on a trip for one of my other subjects) and my teacher had borrowed the DVD already so couldn't lend it to me...

Everything else I'm patient for, heck if I pre-order a film/game/cd some places will deliver it early! (e.g. my copy of AC:NL, Pokemon X&Y, Doctor Who series 3 boxset, etc.)

 

[Reindeer]

I dunno I think maybe that's bcuz technology is still developing, in time I think pirated stuff wont work at all

But with technology developing more, there's also pirates that learn how the technology works. It'll take a very long time before somebody's actually able to create a perfect system that can't be hacked. The costs involved will likely be huge.

For example, if you think of the PS3's development costs, those were staggeringly high since they decided to create an entirely new processor. Yet the software was **** and due to the system allowing external drives among other things, it was easy to crack once a hacker group leaked the master source code. As soon as that happened the PS3 could be cracked by basically anyone, as the master source code allowed for any firmware to be accepted by the system.

I assume the systems that are not custom-built but rather from known parts (like the PS4 is now) can be cracked relatively easily as well. It'll just take some time as they need to find the bypass in not only the hardware but also the software. Even so, custom-built systems like the 3DS and Vita have been cracked. Pirates are very meticulous when it comes to cracking the safety on consoles and video games.

 

[XTheLancerX]

I always go for original. You don't have to worry about being caught AT ALL because you haven't pirated anything or broken any rules in the first place. Also, my friend recently completely ruined his only computer, and it won't even boot "Due to hardware changes" because of a simple piece of malware he got when trying to get a pirated copy of Borderlands 2.

Just keep it simple and get original copies of games. My friend could have just paid $60 for Borderlands 2, but now since he tried to pirate it, he ruined his several several hundred dollar computer and has to replace it with a new one.

So all in all, get the original because it potentially could save you a lot of money because you won't have any possibilities of ruining your computer, and you don't have to live with a guilty conscious.

 

[staticistic1114]

But with technology developing more, there's also pirates that learn how the technology works. It'll take a very long time before somebody's actually able to create a perfect system that can't be hacked. The costs involved will likely be huge.

For example, if you think of the PS3's development costs, those were staggeringly high since they decided to create an entirely new processor. Yet the software was **** and due to the system allowing external drives among other things, it was easy to crack once a hacker group leaked the master source code. As soon as that happened the PS3 could be cracked by basically anyone, as the master source code allowed for any firmware to be accepted by the system.

I assume the systems that are not custom-built but rather from known parts (like the PS4 is now) can be cracked relatively easily as well. It'll just take some time as they need to find the bypass in not only the hardware but also the software. Even so, custom-built systems like the 3DS and Vita have been cracked. Pirates are very meticulous when it comes to cracking the safety on consoles and video games.

yeah yur right, I guess this whole issue wont end then..
what about Nintendo consoles like the Wii U?

 

[Reindeer]

yeah yur right, I guess this whole issue wont end then..
what about Nintendo consoles like the Wii U?

Early this year a hacker group said they'd been able to hack the Wii U. It's already possible to do homebrew and such on it, so sadly even the Wii U isn't safe. The PS4 has already been hacked, I'm not sure about the XBO because I don't really care about it.

 

[staticistic1114]

Early this year a hacker group said they'd been able to hack the Wii U. It's already possible to do homebrew and such on it, so sadly even the Wii U isn't safe. The PS4 has already been hacked, I'm not sure about the XBO because I don't really care about it.

I dunno I feel like Microsoft is hack-proof

 

[sn0wxyuki]

Early this year a hacker group said they'd been able to hack the Wii U. It's already possible to do homebrew and such on it, so sadly even the Wii U isn't safe. The PS4 has already been hacked, I'm not sure about the XBO because I don't really care about it.

PS3 re already hacked and even PS4 now, but if you care and love your console you will not get the pirated disc. My friend told me this will spoil your console easily and I agree.

 

[Kildor]

I dunno I feel like Microsoft is hack-proof

Microsoft isn't hack proof. I don't really care if one was able to hack XBO anyway.

The only thing that's giving the hackers a hard time is the 3DS. No one has hacked it to make a 3DS Emulator.
(Which I find impossible.)

 

[Reindeer]

PS3 re already hacked and even PS4 now, but if you care and love your console you will not get the pirated disc. My friend told me this will spoil your console easily and I agree.

Of course, if the system is faulty then you can't get it replaced or repaired because your warranty has been voided. That's the risk some people are willing to take, though.

Microsoft isn't hack proof. I don't really care if one was able to hack XBO anyway.

The only thing that's giving the hackers a hard time is the 3DS. No one has hacked it to make a 3DS Emulator.
(Which I find impossible.)

Uh, actually... smea, the guy that revealed things like the three event legendaries, Mega Lati@s and various other things in Pokemon X/Y has hacked the 3DS.

The thing that keeps it from spreading is that smea is unwilling to let people know how he did it. He likes toying with the system but he respects it as well. He's just having a little fun.

If it were anybody else you'd be able to play basically anything on your 3DS. I think the Powersave from Datel also works around the 3DS's security, but I know at one point Nintendo will release an update that'll lock out usage of the Powersave. That's what they did for R4 cards and stuff on the DS after all.