Opinions

[Gregriii]

Sooo I was thinking in something...

When do you think an opinion has gone too far?

Example:

- A dislikes feminism and its goals
- B is a supporter of it

A disscusses politely and doesnt harm anyone
B is rude to everyone and is full of hate

So, even technically A is wrong, does A deserve being treated like ****? And should B get treaten well by their sayings?

The thing is I've seen too many polemic threads this year (been in most of them tho) and I've seen people who are correct (ACCORDING TO THE GENERAL OPINION OF MOST OF THE USERS IN THIS WEBSITE) but super rude. Is that fine?

I know opinions should be respected but sometimes they arent and ppl isnt punished because they are seen like the good ones (not saying they cant be)

 

[Cailey]

well. everyone is entitled to their own opinions but I don't believe anyone has the right to be disrespectful towards another person for having an opinion opposite of there's. best thing to do is ignore them and chat with people who possibly share the same opinion as you do and let the person with the opinion opposite of you chat with the people who share the same opinion as them.

sure people can comment on others' opinions but it's not right for them to educate you or put you down if they feel you're wrong because after all an opinion is an opinion and not a scientific fact or whatever per say. no one should be punished or made feel stupid over something they truly believe in whether the general public finds it right or wrong.

 

[piichinu]

yeah but how often does A actually discuss politely and say completely honest things? in that rare occurrence then B shouldn't be rude either but that never happens so

 

[DarkDesertFox]

I think people should share their opinions in a civilized manner. I'm less likely to listen to someone's opinion if I know they're 1. Not listening to mine and 2. Are being obnoxiously rude with theirs. Although, it's impossible to respect everyone's opinion even if they're being polite. Like if someone had a harmful opinion and stated it in a civilized manner, how could that be respected?

 

[riummi]

Opinions are opinions so A isn't exactly right or wrong. Sometimes people have to remember that opinions aren't facts.

 

[Llust]

i have no respect for people who try to shove their opinions down my throat and try obnoxiously convincing me to change my views.

 

[LambdaDelta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTpWzg4aiEU&t=1m9s

best summary of opinions

 

[vel]

to each their own. opinions aren't correct or incorrect. each person is entitled to their own opinion, and i don't think it's right for anyone to be treated badly for their own opinions. so no that isn't fine to be treated badly, unless the opinion is so radically incorrect (i guess you have to "respect" that too, but it doesn't mean you have to agree with it). some people don't handle different opinions very well, so unless an opinion is being completely shoved down your throat, it isn't wrong. (idk where i was going with this tbh)

 

[Mega_Cabbage]

They are just opinions. People are free to express them no matter which side or how radical they are. By doing so, they are opening up another conflict by allowing others to criticize their opinion with another opinion. If you don't want to be criticized in the first place, then you can keep your opinion to yourself. If you are criticized, then you are also free to not give a crap.

 

[seliph]

Are you Miii's alt or something

 

[That Zephyr Guy]

An opinion goes too far when it's a damaging opinion.


Let me give you an example.



Person A thinks being a pedophile is okay and is relatively calm about it.
Person B thinks being a pedophile is disgusting and is fairly rude to person A because they think so.

I probably wouldn't care what Person A said. They'd still be 100% wrong and having gone too far in my opinion. It doesn't matter how they present themselves in this case - it's what they're supporting.

 

[tae]

interesting thread bait topic coming from the guy who said a trans kid didn't deserve to be address by their correct pronouns bc they did something you didnt like / approve of.

 

[ams]

There are a lot of users that are incredibly rude and personally attack people with unpopular (read less liberal) opinions but get away with it. I think part of that is kind of a pack mentality and part of it is that it can be really hard for people who enforce rules to see beyond their own biases in the conversation and treat everyone equally. While I generally side with the majority in discussions on this site I'm not at all impressed by the way that others are attacked for disagreeing.

On an unrelated note - DarkDesertFox your sig is hilarious.

 

[seliph]

Anyways person A is still the one in the wrong honestly like sure person B might be "an ass" but their opinion didn't "go too far" and their opinion isn't harming people, it's them themselves.

 

[ams]

I think the example that the OP gave was also a good one because people seem to confuse things like "not agreeing with modern feminist groups" and "being sexist" which is not only ignorant but really trivializes actual discrimination.

 

[Bowie]

I think it's just common sense that, when sharing your opinions with others, you've gotta be calm and not get too caught up in how wrong you may think the person is being. If you fall into that trap, you can't think clearly and that anger gets in the way of the message you're trying to get across. Nobody deserves beaten down for what they believe in, on either end of the table. But if everyone had a "agree to disagree" attitude, nothing would ever get solved.

 

[Acruoxil]

What even are opinions in today's world.

 

[visibleghost]

ppl are allowed tp have their opinions, but other people aren't required to be like "oh very interesting, i would lovd to hear more about why you would want these groups to literally be shot at sight " (nt tht ppl have said that on tbt as i have heard of But Lmao U Get What I Mean)

obviously it's not ok to be a crappy person to other ppl, everyone has to respect other ppl. but that goes for everyone.

and respecting someone elses opinion isn't agreeing with it and being like "yo i see that you think ____ and that is lovely and i fully support u". u arent allowed to personally attack them But some ppl seem to get upset when ppl disagree w their opinions and argue against them

 

[Fleshy]

To me it depends what was said.

If person A said something like "I disagree with abortion and I personally wouldn't have an abortion" and person B started yelling hate at them, person B has probably gone too far. However, if person A said "I disagree with abortion, nobody should be able to kill a child like that, If I could, I'd make abortion illegal" then I would understand person B's anger as person A has taken their opinion to involve other people.

In my opinion, your opinion is "fine" until you start denying someone else's life, (I can't think of better wording). For example, if you wouldn't have an abortion, saying nobody else should have one is over stepping. If you're cis, saying trans people are all mentally ill and making up statistics about how they all kill themselves (thanks...) is over stepping, it doesn't matter if you're calm in your delivery. That takes it from an opinion to hate. I don't care if someone isn't comfortable around trans people, but I care when they make up transphobic "facts" to spread hate, that's not an opinion. The same goes for any topic.

Being calm doesn't mean you're in the right and your opinion isn't really hurting someone, and being angry doesn't invalidate your opinion. Obviously anyone can say what they want, but when people are spreading clear hate and brush it off as their "opinion", that pisses me off, and if people get angry and rude about that type of thing, good.