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Voting on someone because they're black is racism. (I couldn't think of a clever quip/song reply.)

GARY JOHNSON 2012!

racism |ˈrāˌsizəm|
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
• prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief : a program to combat racism.

Yawn!
 
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rac•ism |ˈrāˌsizəm|
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
• prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief : a program to combat racism.

Yawn!
That post was so sexy.
 
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I really wish there was an autoplay feature.
 
pallys gay and has a crush on baconboy

and barack obama doesn't care about white people
 
I was disappointed in the debate last night because Obama didn't really tell all of his main points, like Woman's rights, etc. But anyways, voting for Obama, I don't think Romney is doing the right thing.
 
bill clinton pls

This, actually.

I wasn't that fond of Bill when he was in office, but he did wonders for the economy and the man definitely knows what he's doing from a money standpoint. I think the most comfortable time of my life was when Bill was in office, and maybe a year or so into Bush's campaign. After that everything just hit the wall. I think it's pretty widely accepted that Bush was a terrible president at this point.

The fact that Bill Clinton is behind Obama in this election, and helping him work on these reforms is major brownie points in my book. He can be involved in all of the sex scandals he wants for all I care, his policies work, and I think it's really going to do wonders for the next four years if things work out in Obama's favor. (I've been looking at the numbers. Romney's not doing so well.)

I'm with Obama because of the reform for students. I'm not even going to try and make up a story otherwise. I don't care what color he is, I don't care about his wife or family, etc etc. I care that I'm going to get out of college and be able to do something besides pay back student loans while not living out of a cardboard box. The way I see things, Romney just doesn't care about the middle or lower class, and under GWB's old standards, all students that are in school ARE the lower class. More debt than income, regardless of why means that I can't get a credit card and start raising my credit, I can't get approved for a car, I'm -screwed- in the long-run. While it's also because of the whole that is banks and big corps, I can get behind an education reform that will allow me to pay a percentage of what I earn for ten years, and then be freed of all debt.

You know what I did when I heard about that? I started crying. I've got a chance to do something I want, and not take the highest paying job based on need. I can be a teacher if I want. Oh, that gets additional grants and help too! You want to be a teacher? They will PAY YOU to go to school and get your certificate. THAT's what matters to me in this election. Romney's response to it was ask your damn parents for money to go to school. Yeah. Like that will ever happen. My mom's got over 20k in debt, and I have more than that in debt from school.

I still don't see the big deal about socialized medicine either. Why is it such a bad thing? Why is one person more important than anyone else to have healthcare? With socialized medicine everyone chips in for something everyone gets and has to have. There will be at least one point in your life where you'll need to see a doctor, and sometimes it won't even be on your terms. The last time I went to the emergency room, I paid 7k with health insurance out of pocket. That's a lot of money guys. Without it, it would have been quadruple the amount. So what's the problem?

As far as voting for Obama because he's black, people will do it anyway. You know what. Let's be honest here. I live in a majorly black area of Florida, and you know what the big excuse people around here can't use for being lazy is? They can't say the 'man' hates them for being black. They can't blame any of their problems on the US government because there are no black people in it. If anything it was NEEDED after all this time, because some african american people around here just don't get that it's not about color, but they sure as hell feel the need to act like it is.

As for me? I really don't care if he's black, indian, hispanic, white, or rainbow. A guy is a guy. Who cares?

Movin on up. This is a topic I've been meaning to hit, but I've been busy doing some research on stuff pally asks about. In the last four years have you noticed a certain tolerance for a specific community? Let's be frank. LGBT groups are ENORMOUSLY more accepted under the changes that are going on around the country. Though Gay Marriage is a state subject, it IS something being worked on around the country. Do you guys know how exciting this is? It's a start. There's tons of stuff like this that needs to be worked on, but for the first time in this country, starting with California if I'm not mistaken, homosexual couples can get married.

One step forward, and two steps back though. Romney wants to do away with that. Hm.

I'm literally scrolling through a list of topics about policy reform and whatnot and debating what to put in here. I'm not even going to touch Pro-life/Pro-choice. That one is a hot button issue for me.
 
I don't know if it's still Romney's slogan, but wasn't it "Keep America American"... and wasn't that the slogan used by the KKK in 1922?
It may simply be a coincidence, but he used it several times in one of his campaign ads.
 
I don't know if it's still Romney's slogan, but wasn't it "Keep America American"... and wasn't that the slogan used by the KKK in 1922?
It may simply be a coincidence, but he used it several times in one of his campaign ads.

AndyB, breakin mad boundaries.
 
I completely agree with you on Clinton. Yea, morally, he was not the best. However, I think under him, it was one of the only other terms (I forgot who was first) where the debt was actually 0. His ideas worked. They did. And again, don't get me wrong, I dislike Romney just as much as anyone else. I would rather vote Ryan than Romney. Romney's business plans always favor the rich because those are his biggest supporters. Despite how "well" he did in the debate, I can't see him doing well in the eyes of the middle and lower classes.... Which are over 2/3 of the population of the country. And yea, there are people out there, honest, caring wealthy people that have made an honest living for themselves. I'm not attacking them while some people are. We can't generalize (I don't know anyone here who has) and group all Republicans together with Romney or all Democrats with Obama. Not all republicans are spoiled, rich trust fund kids that will support Romney with their dying breath.
 
I completely agree with you on Clinton. Yea, morally, he was not the best. However, I think under him, it was one of the only other terms (I forgot who was first) where the debt was actually 0. His ideas worked. They did. And again, don't get me wrong, I dislike Romney just as much as anyone else. I would rather vote Ryan than Romney. Romney's business plans always favor the rich because those are his biggest supporters. Despite how "well" he did in the debate, I can't see him doing well in the eyes of the middle and lower classes.... Which are over 2/3 of the population of the country. And yea, there are people out there, honest, caring wealthy people that have made an honest living for themselves. I'm not attacking them while some people are. We can't generalize (I don't know anyone here who has) and group all Republicans together with Romney or all Democrats with Obama. Not all republicans are spoiled, rich trust fund kids that will support Romney with their dying breath.

Of course not, but the one with the loudest voice is the one with the shrillest screech.

I'm not too fond of Ryan either after the RNC, especially for the way he lied through his spot. But that's just me. It's politics, he's just new enough to the game to get caught.
 
I completely agree with you on Clinton. Yea, morally, he was not the best. However, I think under him, it was one of the only other terms (I forgot who was first) where the debt was actually 0. His ideas worked. They did. And again, don't get me wrong, I dislike Romney just as much as anyone else. I would rather vote Ryan than Romney. Romney's business plans always favor the rich because those are his biggest supporters. Despite how "well" he did in the debate, I can't see him doing well in the eyes of the middle and lower classes.... Which are over 2/3 of the population of the country. And yea, there are people out there, honest, caring wealthy people that have made an honest living for themselves. I'm not attacking them while some people are. We can't generalize (I don't know anyone here who has) and group all Republicans together with Romney or all Democrats with Obama. Not all republicans are spoiled, rich trust fund kids that will support Romney with their dying breath.

Stop posting in my thread if you're not going to respond/own up to your invalid arguments.
 
I don't know if it's still Romney's slogan, but wasn't it "Keep America American"... and wasn't that the slogan used by the KKK in 1922?
It may simply be a coincidence, but he used it several times in one of his campaign ads.

I doubt it, just on its face. There would be an absolute ****storm if that was his slogan, even if it hadn't been the KKK's.
 
Stop posting in my thread if you're not going to respond/own up to your invalid arguments.
So what exactly am I doing? I'm wrong for agreeing with ZR? How am I not responding or owning up to my own 'invalid arguments'? I would love to hear how my arguments or even my opinions are wrong.
 
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