Nintendo pretty much killed the Wii U (?)

[Bosca]

Wii U has some really interesting titles, I was gonna get one if they announced AC Wii U proper, but I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon now. I will probably never play Bayonetta 2 now and that's sad, but I'm not getting a console for a game that short.

 

[Midoriya]

True, though that has the possibility of going two ways.

1) It really does sell alongside the Wii U/3DS rather than competing with them. Maybe as a device that is compatible with them and adds new possibilities to Nintendo gaming, maybe as something entirely different such as a dedicated Wii-Fit device for people who care about that.

2) It 'sells alongside' in the same way they said the DS would run along side the Gameboy, not replace the Gameboy....Seen any gameboy's recently?



It's hard to really know whether it's going to be a successor to the Wii U/3DS or run along side them until we've actually got confirmation of what the NX is.

So what you're saying in number 2 is that it could replace the Wii U, but they won't say that at the beginning? I'm confused. It seems like you're just reading in-between the lines and changing what they said.

 

[shunishu]

mentioning the NX in this event for next year, while not announcing any good big games, was a reaaaally bad marketing decision.
they made it seem like they are keeping all the good games for the next console and that the wiiu is dead, which many suspected already.
that is even stranger, since they just released a huge hit with splatoon and sales were picking up. if i had just bought a console recently, I would consider reselling it pretty soon. my friend wanted to get a wiiu, but decided against it after this digital event.

they should have just not mentioned the NX and amiibo festival at all and just put amiibo festival in a seperate video or the next direct.. huge hype killer

also the NX will likely be downwards compatible (i hope), so you can get the game you want later too and dont have to invest in anything wiiu..

there will likely be another nintendo direct in a month or so where they'll try to patch some of the stuff..

and they havent mentioned lots of other games coming out this year.. like popolocrois x story of seasons or others

 

[Tao]

So what you're saying in number 2 is that it could replace the Wii U, but they won't say that at the beginning? I'm confused. It seems like you're just reading in-between the lines and changing what they said.

I'm not really changing what they said at all. They said the exact same thing when the DS was released, that it wouldn't kill the Gameboy but as soon as they knew the DS was a success, the Gameboy was dead.

I mean, I'm at least looking at past examples rather than speculating based off nothing.

 

[shunishu]

what about the game cube situation.. same disaster..

 

[Midoriya]

I'm not really changing what they said at all. They said the exact same thing when the DS was released, that it wouldn't kill the Gameboy but as soon as they knew the DS was a success, the Gameboy was dead.

I mean, I'm at least looking at past examples rather than speculating based off nothing.

Oh, okay. Wasn't sure what you were saying for a second there.

 

[-Apples-]

I heard that the WiiU sold much less units as of now than the Dreamcast when Sega stopped producing home consoles and left the gaming wars. Nintendo is still expecting more from the WiiU, yet the system is failing much worse than the biggest movie flops of all time.

 

[WonderK]

Wii U still has a lot of life left in it. We're getting some triple A games in a year from now.

 

[Cress]

I'm not really changing what they said at all. They said the exact same thing when the DS was released, that it wouldn't kill the Gameboy but as soon as they knew the DS was a success, the Gameboy was dead.

I mean, I'm at least looking at past examples rather than speculating based off nothing.

I didn't agree with this, but Nintendo just announced that the NX would be a home console. Oh no...

 

[Midoriya]

I didn't agree with this, but Nintendo just announced that the NX would be a home console. Oh no...

You know what THAT means....

PuffleKirby21 is getting a brand new car for free!!! Lol jk

 

[Rasha]

I didn't agree with this, but Nintendo just announced that the NX would be a home console. Oh no...

that's strange, I believe they said it's not a successor to the Wii U but honestly after the disastrous e3 press conference I just don't want to believe them anymore....until I recover....

 

[samsquared]

The WiiU is like this confusing anomalous thing for me because I have one and I know that it could be a strong system. It is a really interesting system, actually- gameplay is very different when you have to adequately divide your attention between two different screens. The nintendo DS does this on a much smaller scale, so it isn't as challenging as using the WiiU- plus the controller is way better than Wiimotes, omg, but I digress.
If I was Nintendo, I would have released Splatoon a LONG time ago, because that game is selling like hotcakes. Everyone is playing this thing. I would have released it alongside Mario Kart 8 and Wind Waker as a launch title. Clearly the content hole was not really a problem with Splatoon, so Nintendo should not have been worried about it. At any rate, try to bring Pokemon to consoles again now that Game Freak can do 3D. It needed to be sheltered from Xbox One and PS4, and Nintendo decided that meant to rush WiiU. Bad idea. Do I think WiiU should have been allowed to sit next to PS4 and Xbox One? Of course not. I think Nintendo should have waited for WiiU until Splatoon was ready and released New Nintendo 3DS. Whatever, the wiiu is too old for these ideas and what ifs- the point is that if released correctly, the WiiU could have wrecked face.
They have no competition in the handheld market and it is so obvious that Nintendo banks on that. Too bad it can't be that way forever thanks to smartphones.

 

[JasonBurrows]

The fact of the Wii U becoming irrelevant is down to personal opinion. I for one play my Nintendo Wii U more than my Nintendo 3DS, Sony PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Gamecube. But I am on my computer more than I am on the Nintendo Wii U.

 

[Prof Gallows]

The nintendo DS does this on a much smaller scale, so it isn't as challenging as using the WiiU- plus the controller is way better than Wiimotes, omg, but I digress.
If I was Nintendo, I would have released Splatoon a LONG time ago, because that game is selling like hotcakes. Everyone is playing this thing. I would have released it alongside Mario Kart 8 and Wind Waker as a launch title. Clearly the content hole was not really a problem with Splatoon, so Nintendo should not have been worried about it. At any rate, try to bring Pokemon to consoles again now that Game Freak can do 3D. It needed to be sheltered from Xbox One and PS4, and Nintendo decided that meant to rush WiiU. Bad idea. Whatever, the wiiu is too old for these ideas and what ifs- the point is that if released correctly, the WiiU could have wrecked face.
They have no competition in the handheld market and it is so obvious that Nintendo banks on that. Too bad it can't be that way forever thanks to smartphones.

Pretty much agree with most of what you said. The Wii U has no problem functioning. It's an amazing console with a lot of potential that they've only barely managed to tap into and it's because they rely too heavily on the "our games are super replayable" mindset. They're expecting people to be playing things like Tropical Freeze and Pikmin and Star Fox for months/half a year, and they really need to come to terms with the fact that isn't the case anymore. People fly through games now a days and Nintendo can't keep up with the demand.

With the release of the console itself, the timing could have made the console a huge success. Having it release before the major competitors is a huge slap in the face to them if it ends up being successful enough to actually compete on the same level. But as it goes that wasn't the case because they relied too heavily on people playing the very few games they had long enough to fill the gaps between new releases. The lack of frequent content is what bombed their console into the ground, and when the PS4 and the Xbone finally came out they had some pretty big launch titles that got them way ahead.
Nintendo could have easily followed this by delaying their console a little longer. Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros as launch titles would have been crazy, and if they had hyped up Splatoon as much as they did that would have been a super successful launch title too.

Agree with the improvements too, anything that needs improved only has a chance in the next generation of Nintendo home console. The handheld market I think Nintendo will hold for a long time. Smartphones are successful but they aren't dedicated gaming devices and the contrast in quality between smartphone games and 3DS games is huge.

 

[-Apples-]

Pretty much agree with most of what you said. The Wii U has no problem functioning. It's an amazing console with a lot of potential that they've only barely managed to tap into and it's because they rely too heavily on the "our games are super replayable" mindset. They're expecting people to be playing things like Tropical Freeze and Pikmin and Star Fox for months/half a year, and they really need to come to terms with the fact that isn't the case anymore. People fly through games now a days and Nintendo can't keep up with the demand.

With the release of the console itself, the timing could have made the console a huge success. Having it release before the major competitors is a huge slap in the face to them if it ends up being successful enough to actually compete on the same level. But as it goes that wasn't the case because they relied too heavily on people playing the very few games they had long enough to fill the gaps between new releases. The lack of frequent content is what bombed their console into the ground, and when the PS4 and the Xbone finally came out they had some pretty big launch titles that got them way ahead.
Nintendo could have easily followed this by delaying their console a little longer. Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros as launch titles would have been crazy, and if they had hyped up Splatoon as much as they did that would have been a super successful launch title too.

Agree with the improvements too, anything that needs improved only has a chance in the next generation of Nintendo home console. The handheld market I think Nintendo will hold for a long time. Smartphones are successful but they aren't dedicated gaming devices and the contrast in quality between smartphone games and 3DS games is huge.

I can see now. Thanks for your explanation.

Of course, when I first planned on getting a WiiU, there was no stopping. I eventually got one before I joined this site.

 

[Locket]

I personally think they should just wait to release games, put the major games on quicker development and:

JUST COME OUT WITH ANIMAL CROSSING AND ZELDA ALREADY
THESE TYPES OF GAMES ARE CONSOLE SELLERS! I bought a 3DS just to get Animal Crossing

 

[Stalfos]

I personally think they should just wait to release games, put the major games on quicker development and:

JUST COME OUT WITH ANIMAL CROSSING AND ZELDA ALREADY
THESE TYPES OF GAMES ARE CONSOLE SELLERS! I bought a 3DS just to get Animal Crossing

I wouldn't be surprised if those two were launchtitles for the "NX". They're not gonna repeat the mistake they made with the Wii U having weak launchtitles.

 

[Rasha]

we still don't know what'll happen in the future because we don't even know what the NX is, I believe it's a console handheld hybrid but how that'll work and how it'll affect the wii u and the 3ds is unknown...
but this e3 really made it look like nintendo is either done with the wii u or they just got extremely lazy because they can't bother releasing 2 good e3 presentations in a row lol. it also seems like all they think about lately are amiibos :/

 

[mdchan]

The NX? Oh, gawd...not another console from Nintendo! Seems like they release a new one every year! I wish they would focus on the consoles they HAVE, and improve the actual GAMES for them rather than work on developing a brand new console.
For example, Sony didn't have to come out with a new console, just announce a remake of FFVII and everyone's hyped about it (me included, even though I don't own a PS4). They need to improve their games (add more content with DLC) and do projects with what works. There's also Kingdom Hearts 3 on its way, to boot.

As for Nintendo killing the Wii U...it was pretty much dead from the second it came out. The only thing which really saved it was MK8, SSB4, and separate amiibo purchases...which is the direction it's now going in (requiring amiibos to play games). Barely anyone talked about the Wii U until SSB4 and Mario Kart 8 came out for it, though it also didn't help that Nintendo was having a hissy fit about Youtubers uploading content from their platforms beforehand, so it didn't even get the free coverage that many other games got.
There was one brief time period when everyone thought the Wii U actually would die and was going to become the next Virtual Boy. Everyone had a DS or a PSP, and nobody was buying the Wii U or its (limited amount of) games.

In conclusion, there's just better stuff out there than the Wii U, even in today's market, and Nintendo's reluctant partnership with Youtube came too late to truly save the Wii U. The 3ds manages to claim the JRPG titles and large franchises like Pokemon, along with sim games like Fantasy Life and Animal Crossing.
Nintendo tried to keep the Wii U on the market by using amiibos and having certain games exclusive to the Wii U (such as some of the rewards from the old Club Nintendo) even though they would have played just fine on the 3ds as well, but it's all just not really working due to content and coverage.

 

[LambdaDelta]

Here lies the Wii U. Declared dead by children on the internet.​