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Don't forget -
The developers: It's not cheating!
Nah in all seriousness, I don't mind it. If I'm catching up to real time because I started again (I did this in NL too) I'll do it, and if I'm wanting to get a building or bridge moved quicker, I'll jump forward a day and then back a day. I don't really see this as unrewarding...I mean, the only thing is I get it a day earlier, so it's not like it takes away any merit or anything.
I will agree there's a lot of hostility from time travelers and non-time travelers a lot of the time. It kind of reminds me of when save editing was big in NL - that was met with the same kind of divisive split of people, but I think there's a way to time travel and not time travel and still enjoy the game as it is.
Thank you so much for making this thread. If anything, this is the TT thread that should be pinned to the top because the title doesn't sway for pro-TT or anti-TT.
That being said, my opinion of TT has changed drastically over the past two days. I had a few reasons why I didn't like it in the past and a few more reasons why I'm fine with it now. What basically changed? I got fed up with multiple little features in my town, so I restarted my island from the first day I played with the intent of TT back up to present day.
Past Me: It is cheating and not playing the game how the developers meant it to be played. It is like playing with motherlode, kaching, or rosebud on the Sims. Essentially, it is for younger players or people with no time.
Present Me: Of course manipulating time is "cheating" in a way. It is the same as using an action replay, but that doesn't make it any less legit. It is not for people who don't know how to play the game. It is just a different way to play. Plus, the live updates give everyone more fun at the same time. Get off your high horse, past me!
Past Me: You wouldn't get as attached to your town.
Present Me: I am just as attached or even more attached to my town on the second time around. I love my villagers in my town even though they moved in at a quicker pace. I have more of an idea what I am doing and I love the map I chose even more! Even better, I know what not to do to my town now.
Past Me: It is taking the easy way out to get fast bells.
Present Me: Oh boy. Just because you play at an accelerated pace doesn't mean you have to put in the exact same effort to get bells. TT is not a money cheat. I'm putting in the same amount of work as I did and I'm even not making as much as I did when I didn't TT because I'm not spending the same amount of time on each day. TT for good turnip prices or something similar would mean putting in a large amount of effort of just loading the game, checking the prices, exiting, changing time, loading game, checking prices, exiting, changing date and time, and repeat. It is a huge amount of effort that is a bit soul sucking if that was all you were doing.
Past Me: I don't think I would TT even if I missed events.
Present Me: I still don't think I would TT if I missed an event until a few years have passed unless there was something really cool that I wanted as a reward that I could have fun with now decorating my town. They are making the events longer now so that it is easier for me to play them anyway. After a year or two has passed, I would consider it fair game.
I feel like my outlook on TT has completely changed! When I get caught back up to present time, would I TT? Probably not unless I just missed something because of responsibilities. Then I might if I really felt like it. I am really glad that I'm able to TT. It lets me relive the joy of the beginning of the game all over again!
That being said, my opinion of TT has changed drastically over the past two days. I had a few reasons why I didn't like it in the past and a few more reasons why I'm fine with it now. What basically changed? I got fed up with multiple little features in my town, so I restarted my island from the first day I played with the intent of TT back up to present day.
Past Me: It is cheating and not playing the game how the developers meant it to be played. It is like playing with motherlode, kaching, or rosebud on the Sims. Essentially, it is for younger players or people with no time.
Present Me: Of course manipulating time is "cheating" in a way. It is the same as using an action replay, but that doesn't make it any less legit. It is not for people who don't know how to play the game. It is just a different way to play. Plus, the live updates give everyone more fun at the same time. Get off your high horse, past me!
Past Me: You wouldn't get as attached to your town.
Present Me: I am just as attached or even more attached to my town on the second time around. I love my villagers in my town even though they moved in at a quicker pace. I have more of an idea what I am doing and I love the map I chose even more! Even better, I know what not to do to my town now.
Past Me: It is taking the easy way out to get fast bells.
Present Me: Oh boy. Just because you play at an accelerated pace doesn't mean you have to put in the exact same effort to get bells. TT is not a money cheat. I'm putting in the same amount of work as I did and I'm even not making as much as I did when I didn't TT because I'm not spending the same amount of time on each day. TT for good turnip prices or something similar would mean putting in a large amount of effort of just loading the game, checking the prices, exiting, changing time, loading game, checking prices, exiting, changing date and time, and repeat. It is a huge amount of effort that is a bit soul sucking if that was all you were doing.
Past Me: I don't think I would TT even if I missed events.
Present Me: I still don't think I would TT if I missed an event until a few years have passed unless there was something really cool that I wanted as a reward that I could have fun with now decorating my town. They are making the events longer now so that it is easier for me to play them anyway. After a year or two has passed, I would consider it fair game.
I feel like my outlook on TT has completely changed! When I get caught back up to present time, would I TT? Probably not unless I just missed something because of responsibilities. Then I might if I really felt like it. I am really glad that I'm able to TT. It lets me relive the joy of the beginning of the game all over again!
xSuperMario64x
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I've said this in a different thread and I'll say it again. I'm not against time traveling at all. I absolutely see how it could be viewed as a form of cheating, though.
I time-travel a lot, especially in the first few months of gameplay. Once I can comfortably work with what I have then I slow down a lot. But if people want to cheat, and as long as their not using it to get an edge in terms of wealth, then it really isn't an issue. Now when people start time-traveling to accumulate wealth and then do stupid stuff like sell it for RLC then it's an issue.
I time-travel a lot, especially in the first few months of gameplay. Once I can comfortably work with what I have then I slow down a lot. But if people want to cheat, and as long as their not using it to get an edge in terms of wealth, then it really isn't an issue. Now when people start time-traveling to accumulate wealth and then do stupid stuff like sell it for RLC then it's an issue.
LegallyBlondie
oy oy oy
Only annoying thing about TT is that it causes inflation in the online marketplace for people who play without TT. You can basically sell entry to your town if you have good turnips and keep rolling the clock back, cycle villagers out faster to sell them, obtain more items to sell, etc.
You bring more goods into the economy that not everyone can afford, and your goods give you access to more NMT / bells. Through trade you also make things unlockable faster for non TTers. You can order as many items per day as necessary and so on and so forth.
You can say TT is a playstyle that doesn't affect others so who cares if you do it, but it does impact everyone's early to mid-game purchasing power. After a few months though it evens out as less people play/ and more people reach the natural paced game completion, but until then.... it is what it is. It's necessary because I don't think as many people would play if they couldn't TT, and a bigger community is always better than a dead one.
You bring more goods into the economy that not everyone can afford, and your goods give you access to more NMT / bells. Through trade you also make things unlockable faster for non TTers. You can order as many items per day as necessary and so on and so forth.
You can say TT is a playstyle that doesn't affect others so who cares if you do it, but it does impact everyone's early to mid-game purchasing power. After a few months though it evens out as less people play/ and more people reach the natural paced game completion, but until then.... it is what it is. It's necessary because I don't think as many people would play if they couldn't TT, and a bigger community is always better than a dead one.
Also don't forget they are releasing stuff like museum expansions etc as updates so time travellers can't get them early, lol.
Nah, I don't know if thats the case really.
Yeah it's not the case - it was mentioned in an interview piece that it was mostly for the longevity of the game (likely to give something players to check in on when those events come around)...but one can speculate they're just fluffing it so people don't get mad over it.
Really, I think the move is more business-centric to be completely honest - I think they wanted to move toward staggard event releases because, a) it's pretty common in games anyway and, b) it gives them a reason to encourage people to check in on the game and a 'new event.'
If they're planning on releasing DLC especially, it's in their best interest to keep people coming back to the game, and this is a perfect way to do it semi-regularly.
Heck all of that speculation aside, it could event more simply just be down to...those features weren't finished in time and releasing them in patches is an excuse to get more time to work on them - who knows!
Anyways it's kind of moot. My point is just that it's pretty unlikely the staggered releases are down to time travellers.
I honestly don’t even understand why it matters to people so much on how others prefer to play their games 
“cheating”, I guess a little, but it’s really not that serious. We’re all going through the same in-game experiences, it’s just that some go at a faster or slower pace. People who TT don’t deserve to be bashed for having fleshed out maps and catalogued items. And same goes to people who don’t TT, because they work hard on their islands and catalogues too.
Don’t really know where all the hate for people who TT is coming from either, but it’s getting old. I see it all the time now
“cheating”, I guess a little, but it’s really not that serious. We’re all going through the same in-game experiences, it’s just that some go at a faster or slower pace. People who TT don’t deserve to be bashed for having fleshed out maps and catalogued items. And same goes to people who don’t TT, because they work hard on their islands and catalogues too. Don’t really know where all the hate for people who TT is coming from either, but it’s getting old. I see it all the time now
skogkyst
So-Called Problem Solver
My opinion on time traveling - as I state on every thread - is that I consider it, in a way, a form of cheating in the same was Action Replay is cheating and using cheat codes are cheating etc. HOWEVER I do not believe it is a bad or illegitimate way of playing, quite the opposite - I time traveled in past games often (not this one though) and enjoyed myself. I do not care if people TT at all.
While I'm intrigued to listen to others' ideas, I doubt anyone's opinions - including a developer's - would change my mind. I've come to my conclusions with my interpretation of the fundamentals of the game. I play the game by the rules that I want to follow, but others are free to play by the rules that they do.
While I'm intrigued to listen to others' ideas, I doubt anyone's opinions - including a developer's - would change my mind. I've come to my conclusions with my interpretation of the fundamentals of the game. I play the game by the rules that I want to follow, but others are free to play by the rules that they do.
I think there is no problem with time travel threads it help non- time travellers come round to the idea when they’ve saw others views, I mean you get the occasional angry Karen but other than that’s it’s okay. I posted here yesterday about how I feel about time travel but seeing these other posts makes me wanna time travel and give in. Honestly people can play it how they want to and the idea of it being ‘cheating’ is true because it is cheating but there are reasons such as lack of time to do stuff or getting on late so shops aren’t closed or missing a day or two due to something family related but I don’t get why the community should become segregated over a small thing that’s not even an issue. The people saying that time travel is some sort of sin are sausages and playing the game their way should be enough for them
This. I feel like the developer's stance on it was carefully worded to people-please. No one wants to upset their customers after all!
I really don't like stepping on anyone's toes but I have to side with the opinion of, why does it matter to any of us how someone else chooses to play their game?
The only thing I feel it matters in is the ridiculous inflation its caused on popular villagers. TT'ing and taking advantage of glitches absolutely caused the price of so many villagers to skyrocket, mostly from people who don't abuse the game for bells but still want them from the people who do because that somehow gives them a clean conscience even though its a viable contribution to the overall problem. A big piece of the puzzle of greed.
Other than that? If someone is TT'ing because they're bored, they're trying to get a villager they'd like (beyond just being bells in their pockets) in their camp with higher odds, or they're doing it because AC helps them get through their day and not having anything to do in the middle of the night when they're all alone and the villagers have gone to bed with all the shops closed up-- well, I don't think these people deserve to be guilt tripped, sorry.
Its a double edged sword and not everyone uses both edges.
This whole problem caused for me to pass up the opportunity to give away Marshall by moving him in and then replacing him with a random camper today, because I was afraid that someone would take him just to turn around and sell him, and I wasn't about it.
Its a shame to have to think that way, I would've loved to not worry about it but, this whole villager pricing thing really irks me to no end, so I did.
I don't really get being bell hungry, I never will, but I do get the desire to TT sometimes beyond that.
The only thing I feel it matters in is the ridiculous inflation its caused on popular villagers. TT'ing and taking advantage of glitches absolutely caused the price of so many villagers to skyrocket, mostly from people who don't abuse the game for bells but still want them from the people who do because that somehow gives them a clean conscience even though its a viable contribution to the overall problem. A big piece of the puzzle of greed.
Other than that? If someone is TT'ing because they're bored, they're trying to get a villager they'd like (beyond just being bells in their pockets) in their camp with higher odds, or they're doing it because AC helps them get through their day and not having anything to do in the middle of the night when they're all alone and the villagers have gone to bed with all the shops closed up-- well, I don't think these people deserve to be guilt tripped, sorry.
Its a double edged sword and not everyone uses both edges.
This whole problem caused for me to pass up the opportunity to give away Marshall by moving him in and then replacing him with a random camper today, because I was afraid that someone would take him just to turn around and sell him, and I wasn't about it.
Its a shame to have to think that way, I would've loved to not worry about it but, this whole villager pricing thing really irks me to no end, so I did.
I don't really get being bell hungry, I never will, but I do get the desire to TT sometimes beyond that.
I’m not against time travel and it doesn’t bother me at all, but people can play their own way and have their own unique style. I’ve seen many people on social media using time travel to get all bugs, fish, furniture, clothes, villagers, bridges, inclines and I don’t find it a problem. It’s true that TT does have its advantages and disadvantages as long as you learn how to use it properly and sometimes it’s not considered as cheating.
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