I've got a debate question...

[Sporge27]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepscientifically

But what starts the growth of a planet?

The spiral disk of matter around a star? Gravity?

But what stops it?

um lack of matter left in the area? I'm confused about what you are asking now though.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepscientifically

The spiral disk of matter around a star? Gravity?

But what stops it?

um lack of matter left in the area? I'm confused about what you are asking now though.

It would take a sheer act of randomness and luck to transform matter into something like the earth. Basically, if a planet is created by transforming, or distorting matter in such a manner that happens a lot, how come it cannot be recreated on a smaller scale? Religion aside, I do not see how it is possible that a planet could be created out of random conditions in the universe. It is illogical.

 

[//RUN.exe]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepscientifically

But what stops it?

um lack of matter left in the area? I'm confused about what you are asking now though.

It would take a sheer act of randomness and luck to transform matter into something like the earth. Basically, if a planet is created by transforming, or distorting matter in such a manner that happens a lot, how come it cannot be recreated on a smaller scale? Religion aside, I do not see how it is possible that a planet could be created out of random conditions in the universe. It is illogical.

"my name is bacon boy and i have not read anything sporge has said"

ok thankyou for telling us

 

[Sporge27]

Well the conditions aren't entirely random, there are rules governing planet formation.

Crystals form in nature based on chemistry and other forces, and look at how much harder to find those can be than a normal rock. But just cause a diamond is hard to find doesn't mean it needed to be made directly by someone.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Well the conditions aren't entirely random, there are rules governing planet formation.

Crystals form in nature based on chemistry and other forces, and look at how much harder to find those can be than a normal rock. But just cause a diamond is hard to find doesn't mean it needed to be made directly by someone.

However, the earth creates the diamonds. Through the pressure on the earth, etc. Everything has a creator.

 

[Ciaran]

Reading bacon boy's posts is funny.

 

[........]

Wat.

 

[Deleted User]

Man, I didn't realize Bacon Boy was this ignorant.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Man, I didn't realize Bacon Boy was this ignorant.

I didn't realize that this thread had gone from discussing to acting like pricks.

 

[Sporge27]

Well the conditions aren't entirely random, there are rules governing planet formation.

Crystals form in nature based on chemistry and other forces, and look at how much harder to find those can be than a normal rock. But just cause a diamond is hard to find doesn't mean it needed to be made directly by someone.

However, the earth creates the diamonds. Through the pressure on the earth, etc. Everything has a creator.

The Earth is not a person....

Everything has something that creates it if that is what you mean, but whether it is a conscious person-like immortal being, who is omnipotent, or just forces of nature is what it comes down to. The current theory for the big bang is that two dimension sheets collided and made the universe or something like that. I am no theoretical physicist though and can't do it justice.

Point is there still isn't proof one way or the other, and your logic thus far has not been airtight.

I am done because we have reached the point that neither way can be proven.

 

[Ciaran]

Well the conditions aren't entirely random, there are rules governing planet formation.

Crystals form in nature based on chemistry and other forces, and look at how much harder to find those can be than a normal rock. But just cause a diamond is hard to find doesn't mean it needed to be made directly by someone.

However, the earth creates the diamonds. Through the pressure on the earth, etc. Everything has a creator.

The Earth is not a person....

Everything has something that creates it if that is what you mean, but whether it is a conscious person-like immortal being, who is omnipotent, or just forces of nature is what it comes down to. The current theory for the big bang is that two dimension sheets collided and made the universe or something like that. I am no theoretical physicist though and can't do it justice.

Point is there still isn't proof one way or the other, and your logic thus far has not been airtight.

I am done because we have reached the point that neither way can be proven.

Neither point could ever be proven, but poor little bacon boy tried his darndest!

 

[Rocketman]

Well the conditions aren't entirely random, there are rules governing planet formation.

Crystals form in nature based on chemistry and other forces, and look at how much harder to find those can be than a normal rock. But just cause a diamond is hard to find doesn't mean it needed to be made directly by someone.

However, the earth creates the diamonds. Through the pressure on the earth, etc. Everything has a creator.

The Earth is not a person....

Everything has something that creates it if that is what you mean, but whether it is a conscious person-like immortal being, who is omnipotent, or just forces of nature is what it comes down to. The current theory for the big bang is that two dimension sheets collided and made the universe or something like that. I am no theoretical physicist though and can't do it justice.

Point is there still isn't proof one way or the other, and your logic thus far has not been airtight.

I am done because we have reached the point that neither way can be proven.

Exactly. You can't prove it or disprove it.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Well the conditions aren't entirely random, there are rules governing planet formation.

Crystals form in nature based on chemistry and other forces, and look at how much harder to find those can be than a normal rock. But just cause a diamond is hard to find doesn't mean it needed to be made directly by someone.

However, the earth creates the diamonds. Through the pressure on the earth, etc. Everything has a creator.

The Earth is not a person....

Everything has something that creates it if that is what you mean, but whether it is a conscious person-like immortal being, who is omnipotent, or just forces of nature is what it comes down to. The current theory for the big bang is that two dimension sheets collided and made the universe or something like that. I am no theoretical physicist though and can't do it justice.

Point is there still isn't proof one way or the other, and your logic thus far has not been airtight.

I am done because we have reached the point that neither way can be proven.

Yea, that's what I meant.
My logic is based on a faith and my opinion/reasoning and yours is based on your faith (or lack thereof, I do not know if you have any) and your opinion/reasoning so they will differ. And I agree we will not reach a moot point. We have gotten a bit off-topic, as well.

 

[Rocketman]

http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn14/extralife.htm

This, and I found another great site that answered all my questions.

 

[Rocketman]

http://www.everystudent.com/features/faith.html

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/atheist.html


These pages were, believe it or not, written by an atheist who discovered the Truth.

 

[Sporge27]

Why does it even matter if there is a God? If he is good and you are good you will be taken care of. If he isn't good, I wouldn't worship him anyway. Why does there need to be more beyond that?

 

[Rocketman]

Discussion closed. Off topic and I've already got my answers. So I'm satisfied, nor do I longer care.

 

[master412160]

the more we find out out outer space the more our Relgion is being crushed by teh truth that shall come out one day and remove the power that religion has over us, or most of us.