Because people use them as currency? If people started using a piece of furniture as a currency would you hate the piece of furniture? Do you hate bells and currency in general? It's always going to exist in one form or another. It makes me think of Fallout and how they use bottlecaps for currency.
I despise nmt
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PuppyCat472
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Agreed. I don't like having to use nmt to trade. I miss tbt having weight on here (from a few years ago on my old account), igb, and other items. I do trade with nmt cause that's what everyone is using but it sucks. Not mention nfc tags and duping. I feel like the entire economy of this game is a joke.
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In the name of the Moon, Indeedaroo!
I love them and hate them. I like that i can sometimes use them in trades and stuff when I can't earn enough bells in my game but also, nook mile tickets are also hard to earn at times. I've never had even 20k Nook Miles at once across all 3 of my attempts with this game. Although. I still think the glitches and bugs in the game are worse than NMT. But NMT have had a huge impact on the game economy for sure.
IonicKarma
Wishful Phoenix
I actually like that NMT got introduced in this game. It's such a better method for villager hunting than what we used to have and is a much more convenient currency than Bells ever was. The max Bells you can hold is 4 Mil for a trip, while the max NMT you can hold is 400. Having to only do one trip as opposed to multiple also protects you from scams since as long as the transaction is less than 400 NMT, you can quit the game if they try to scam.
It is crazy how much Raymond is going for and how inaccessible it is to buy rare stuff with tickets you farmed yourself with miles, but would this situation really be any different if Bells were still the main currency? I don't think its likely tbh.
It is crazy how much Raymond is going for and how inaccessible it is to buy rare stuff with tickets you farmed yourself with miles, but would this situation really be any different if Bells were still the main currency? I don't think its likely tbh.
I like NMT because I like going to the islands for resource. Unfortunately, most NMT in the market are in fact hacked. People on ebay sell NMT in bundles of 100-400 for real money and all that NMT is hacked NMT. It's hard to even say how much out there is legit NMT. Also, they only stack to 10 so unless you are actively spending them or trading with them, they can take up quite a bit of space in your inventory.
Le Ham
now please I will accept the money-payment
Yeah I'm sitting here with roughly 50k miles, which I made no effort to earn other than do my daily rounds (like, I don't even actively try to do the miles achievements, it's just either a pleasant surprise or noise when I get one). Meanwhile, since I really don't do turnip trading much and I can't be bothered to grind for tarantulas, I never have more than about 150k bells at my disposal. Which typically gets sunken into either my loan, the spotlight item at Nook's or moving villager houses.
The difference between the value of those two currencies on the market is staggering. With 25 NMTs I could afford the vast majority of villagers or things I wanted out there, as long as I'm not after Raymond or Audie or maybe Marshal. But 150k bells? I'd be able to buy maybe a single good DIY/piece of furniture off someone? (haven't checked that lol but the point stands). It feels rather unbalanced because of that. If I took all my miles and transferred them into bell vouchers I'd have nowhere near the amount of bells that 25 NMTs convert to.
The difference between the value of those two currencies on the market is staggering. With 25 NMTs I could afford the vast majority of villagers or things I wanted out there, as long as I'm not after Raymond or Audie or maybe Marshal. But 150k bells? I'd be able to buy maybe a single good DIY/piece of furniture off someone? (haven't checked that lol but the point stands). It feels rather unbalanced because of that. If I took all my miles and transferred them into bell vouchers I'd have nowhere near the amount of bells that 25 NMTs convert to.
I earn like 10 NMTs a week naturally... I've probably gotten close to 100 just by playing the game since launch. Once I had nearly 50k miles stocked up (that was a tedious trip to the ATM lol) and I've never actively tried to farm them. I TT now and then but not a crazy amount. Plus if you find even one popular villager you can sell for NMT you have a good foothold into the market. I really don't mind it being used as currency tbh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And I barely mystery island hop anymore, I like to every now and then but it's not a viable method of finding a villager that you want. I just use them to buy and sell stuff because it's convenient. Though I will say I was shocked when I first learned how many bells an NMT converts to because it's so much easier for me to obtain the same worth in NMT than in bells. Maybe I'm not as willing to grind the stalk market as some people but I currently have 80 nmt + 45 nmts' worth of bells in my bank account if we're still going by 1:200k conversion rate and this is by far the most bells I've ever had
And I barely mystery island hop anymore, I like to every now and then but it's not a viable method of finding a villager that you want. I just use them to buy and sell stuff because it's convenient. Though I will say I was shocked when I first learned how many bells an NMT converts to because it's so much easier for me to obtain the same worth in NMT than in bells. Maybe I'm not as willing to grind the stalk market as some people but I currently have 80 nmt + 45 nmts' worth of bells in my bank account if we're still going by 1:200k conversion rate and this is by far the most bells I've ever had
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IonicKarma
Wishful Phoenix
I actually disagree with this. Sure some of it is hacked, but i wouldn't say a majority is. You underestimate how many players of this game there are and how many miles you gain passively through just playing normally. Just like any popular online game, its much faster to find something valuable to farm to sell than grinding for currency directly, but NMTs enter the market through casual gameplay at an extraordinary rate.
mirukushake
Senior Member
Just because something is available to buy, doesn't mean people are actually buying it at any noticeable rate. I play a couple hours a day, no TT-ing or actively grinding Nook Miles, and I usually have around 40 - 50 NMTs worth of miles at any given time. It's not a particularly hard currency to accumulate. Thanks to quarantine/stay at home orders there are people playing 8+ hours a day, not to mention TT-ing and selling villagers/rare items for large amounts of NMT, so there are naturally a lot in circulation.
Reginald Fairfield
Senior Member
That's not what I said.
I was referring to OP
The reason that NMT have become the default currency is that bells face severe inflation. Every week, people buy turnips, in some cases millions of bells worth, and, using Discord to find a high price, it is easy to convert that investment into 5 or 6 times as many bells. As a result, the number of bells flowing into the game far exceeds the number of bells being destroyed by house upgrades.
This is exacerbated by time travel, which makes it easier for more players to find high turnip prices, and also for one player to set their clock so Daisy Mae is on their island while the other player finds a high nooklings price, and then, players can just run back and forth creating about 2 million bells every five minutes for twelve hours if they want.
NMT, by contrast, are far harder to cheese into existence through time travel. You can collect 1/6 of a ticket each day for using the ATM, and you get a set of 2x reward challenges each day, but you still have to grind them out, which is far slower than making the bell printer go brrrr.
Ultimately, the tickets have a ceiling on their value as well because nobody needs them once they gather their dream villagers, and many time travelers find it easier to hunt villagers using the campsite anyway, so eventually, once fewer players are consuming tickets on villager hunts, these will start to see inflation as well.
However, there is no commodity in this game whose value isn’t distorted by time travel or dupe glitch abuse. Nintendo created this situation by making it so easy to cheat.
This is exacerbated by time travel, which makes it easier for more players to find high turnip prices, and also for one player to set their clock so Daisy Mae is on their island while the other player finds a high nooklings price, and then, players can just run back and forth creating about 2 million bells every five minutes for twelve hours if they want.
NMT, by contrast, are far harder to cheese into existence through time travel. You can collect 1/6 of a ticket each day for using the ATM, and you get a set of 2x reward challenges each day, but you still have to grind them out, which is far slower than making the bell printer go brrrr.
Ultimately, the tickets have a ceiling on their value as well because nobody needs them once they gather their dream villagers, and many time travelers find it easier to hunt villagers using the campsite anyway, so eventually, once fewer players are consuming tickets on villager hunts, these will start to see inflation as well.
However, there is no commodity in this game whose value isn’t distorted by time travel or dupe glitch abuse. Nintendo created this situation by making it so easy to cheat.
i have a pretty conflicting view on the NMT... i really enjoy the mystery islands, i think they're a lot of fun! being able to choose who moves in is also a plus. as a currency, NMT are pretty useless to me personally haha ^^' i have the majority of my dreamies already and i think that the auctions that go skyrocket to hundreds of NMT are a little ridiculous? that's just my personal experience with them though
Underneath The Stars
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i barely go there anyway
I love mystery islands. Can't stand them as currency.
I've sadly had to go along with it to see results. I've offered TBT and IGB for things before, and got very little replies compared to NMT offers... I think I said this before, but I feel like I saved up TBT for nothing. They're just collecting dust.
NMTs are useful in-game, not tediously printing one-by-one before a trade lol. Just my opinion.
I've sadly had to go along with it to see results. I've offered TBT and IGB for things before, and got very little replies compared to NMT offers... I think I said this before, but I feel like I saved up TBT for nothing. They're just collecting dust.
NMTs are useful in-game, not tediously printing one-by-one before a trade lol. Just my opinion.
Amissapanda
Manda Panda
I enjoy the mystery islands and I think the tickets to go to those islands are a nice little thing you can use to get extra resources, search for villagers, etc. And I have earned over 450,000 miles that I haven't converted---just from actively playing the game and doing daily tasks. But I don't plan to convert them to sell them for money/use them for trading, because I dislike how reliant everything is on NMT now. (And there's no way in heck I'm sitting in front of that machine for hours to generate NMT from my miles.) I have used some NMT for buying/trading/selling, if only because you generally have to work with that for currency in NH now. People hardly accept anything else and it has just become the expectation.
If Nintendo makes them non-tradable in the the future, I think that would be a great move. I'm all for it. As has been said already, something like the May Day Tickets option would be wonderful. And it would stop some people online from selling huge stacks of NMT for actual money.
If Nintendo makes them non-tradable in the the future, I think that would be a great move. I'm all for it. As has been said already, something like the May Day Tickets option would be wonderful. And it would stop some people online from selling huge stacks of NMT for actual money.
mayortiffany
Senior Member
In terms of the online trading market, I think they're the best thing to come out of New Horizons. As earlier posters have mentioned, bell inflation is very high whereas NMT are generally more difficult to collect for the average user. When you're dealing with big ticket trades, using NMT as a form of currency is so much more efficient than bringing hundreds of millions of bells in multiple trips (particularly when no lockers exist anymore!).
There is no reliable trading feature where two people can meet asynchronously and put down as much as they like without having to worry about making multiple trips - and even if this were implemented, there'd be no way to do it with villagers in boxes. As such, people improvise - and I think the system we have now is much better than what we had in New Leaf.
There is no reliable trading feature where two people can meet asynchronously and put down as much as they like without having to worry about making multiple trips - and even if this were implemented, there'd be no way to do it with villagers in boxes. As such, people improvise - and I think the system we have now is much better than what we had in New Leaf.
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