Healthcare Passes in the House

[Tyler]

http://www.youtube.com/v/qwFzis6cRNo&videos=r0bPRFC_GZo

Well this is certainly a step for the Health-Care bill. However, will the Senate pass the bill before the end of the year?

Discuss.

 

[Pear]

Yay! Hopefully the senate can pass this.

 

[«Jack»]

I always loved how they don't have "yes" or "no", but "yea" or "nay".

 

[Zex]

I always loved how they don't have "yes" or "no", but "yea" or "nay".

XD

 

[«Jack»]

I always loved how they don't have "yes" or "no", but "yea" or "nay".

XD

YEA FOR HEALTH CARE!

 

[Bacon Boy]

OSHI- Well, there goes America.

 

[Pear]

OSHI- Well, there goes America.

How is this bad? It's helping protect people. For instance, one time when I was little, we were visiting family in England. My sister got very sick and had to stay at a hospital. If they didn't have free healthcare, we would've been out 7,000 pounds.

 

[Bacon Boy]

OSHI- Well, there goes America.

How is this bad? It's helping protect people. For instance, one time when I was little, we were visiting family in England. My sister got very sick and had to stay at a hospital. If they didn't have free healthcare, we would've been out 7,000 pounds.

Look at Canada. That's the kind of healthcare we're heading towards with this bill. It takes them months, sometimes years to get treated for something. You can end up waiting a long time to see a public doctor. And there are very few public doctors. Here is video about this:

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

 

[Pear]

OSHI- Well, there goes America.

How is this bad? It's helping protect people. For instance, one time when I was little, we were visiting family in England. My sister got very sick and had to stay at a hospital. If they didn't have free healthcare, we would've been out 7,000 pounds.

Look at Canada. That's the kind of healthcare we're heading towards with this bill. It takes them months, sometimes years to get treated for something. You can end up waiting a long time to see a public doctor. And there are very few public doctors. Here is video about this:

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

This isn't Government run though, it's a company.
I think it can work if done right, for instance, most of Europe.

 

[Bacon Boy]

OSHI- Well, there goes America.

How is this bad? It's helping protect people. For instance, one time when I was little, we were visiting family in England. My sister got very sick and had to stay at a hospital. If they didn't have free healthcare, we would've been out 7,000 pounds.

Look at Canada. That's the kind of healthcare we're heading towards with this bill. It takes them months, sometimes years to get treated for something. You can end up waiting a long time to see a public doctor. And there are very few public doctors. Here is video about this:

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

This isn't Government run though, it's a company.
I think it can work if done right, for instance, most of Europe.

Nope. The healthcare bill is run by the government. They want our healthcare to be like Canada's.

 

[Ciaran]

If you don't want free healthcare, then stop moaning and go private and be down a couple thousand dollars/euro/pounds/lamb shanks...

Give a republican the interweb and see what happens?

 

[Pear]

OSHI- Well, there goes America.

How is this bad? It's helping protect people. For instance, one time when I was little, we were visiting family in England. My sister got very sick and had to stay at a hospital. If they didn't have free healthcare, we would've been out 7,000 pounds.

Look at Canada. That's the kind of healthcare we're heading towards with this bill. It takes them months, sometimes years to get treated for something. You can end up waiting a long time to see a public doctor. And there are very few public doctors. Here is video about this:

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

This isn't Government run though, it's a company.
I think it can work if done right, for instance, most of Europe.

Nope. The healthcare bill is run by the government. They want our healthcare to be like Canada's.

At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep

Look at Canada. That's the kind of healthcare we're heading towards with this bill. It takes them months, sometimes years to get treated for something. You can end up waiting a long time to see a public doctor. And there are very few public doctors. Here is video about this:

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

This isn't Government run though, it's a company.
I think it can work if done right, for instance, most of Europe.

Nope. The healthcare bill is run by the government. They want our healthcare to be like Canada's.

At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

It's not successful. What's wrong with the healthcare we have now? If some people can't afford it, have government funded doctors that work for the people for free. But why should we have to be forced to change doctors because the government wants us to.

@Nin: There will be fewer private doctors if this bill gets passed.

 

[John102]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep

Look at Canada. That's the kind of healthcare we're heading towards with this bill. It takes them months, sometimes years to get treated for something. You can end up waiting a long time to see a public doctor. And there are very few public doctors. Here is video about this:

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

This isn't Government run though, it's a company.
I think it can work if done right, for instance, most of Europe.

Nope. The healthcare bill is run by the government. They want our healthcare to be like Canada's.

At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

Yeah, after we spend billions in taxes.

 

[Ciaran]

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

This isn't Government run though, it's a company.
I think it can work if done right, for instance, most of Europe.

Nope. The healthcare bill is run by the government. They want our healthcare to be like Canada's.

At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

It's not successful. What's wrong with the healthcare we have now? If some people can't afford it, have government funded doctors that work for the people for free. But why should we have to be forced to change doctors because the government wants us to.

@Nin: There will be fewer private doctors if this bill gets passed.

Stop being picky. You're like a five year old, if you can't get it your way you refuse to accept it. It's a recession, people can't afford to pay insane prices for healthcare.

Obama was brought in to bring change, an that's what he's doing.

 

[Pear]

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Basically, if the government doesn't think you're illness is dire, you'll have to wait to see a doctor.

This isn't Government run though, it's a company.
I think it can work if done right, for instance, most of Europe.

Nope. The healthcare bill is run by the government. They want our healthcare to be like Canada's.

At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

It's not successful. What's wrong with the healthcare we have now?

Everything. A simple surgery can cost you $30,000. Having a few medical problems can destroy a person financially for life.

@Nintenmad- You're 100% right.

 

[Bacon Boy]

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Nope. The healthcare bill is run by the government. They want our healthcare to be like Canada's.

At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

It's not successful. What's wrong with the healthcare we have now?

Everything. A simple surgery can cost you $10,000. Having a few medical problems can destroy a person financially for life.

@Nintenmad- You're 100% right.

Your statistics were off.

I'm having surgery next summer, and if I don't chose a time soon, I won't be able to have it because it's not a medical issue right now. My insurance would not pay for it, so it would be a non-option for me and I would have to live with it.

That is what would happen if the healthcare bill is passed.

 

[Ciaran]

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At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

It's not successful. What's wrong with the healthcare we have now?

Everything. A simple surgery can cost you $10,000. Having a few medical problems can destroy a person financially for life.

@Nintenmad- You're 100% right.

Your statistics were off.

I'm having surgery next summer, and if I don't chose a time soon, I won't be able to have it because it's not a medical issue right now. My insurance would not pay for it, so it would be a non-option for me and I would have to live with it.

That is what would happen if the healthcare bill is passed.

ONO!!!!!

You'll have to pay either way!!
Mr. Obama willpay for this!

 

[Pear]

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At least it's an option. If it doesn't go well, it can just be shut down without much of a problem. But if it's successful, it can be expanded upon.

It's not successful. What's wrong with the healthcare we have now?

Everything. A simple surgery can cost you $10,000. Having a few medical problems can destroy a person financially for life.

@Nintenmad- You're 100% right.

Your statistics were off.

I'm having surgery next summer, and if I don't chose a time soon, I won't be able to have it because it's not a medical issue right now. My insurance would not pay for it, so it would be a non-option for me and I would have to live with it.

That is what would happen if the healthcare bill is passed.

My dad had an Appendectomy and it cost $30,000.
What are you not getting about Public Option?

 

[John102]

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It's not successful. What's wrong with the healthcare we have now?

Everything. A simple surgery can cost you $10,000. Having a few medical problems can destroy a person financially for life.

@Nintenmad- You're 100% right.

Your statistics were off.

I'm having surgery next summer, and if I don't chose a time soon, I won't be able to have it because it's not a medical issue right now. My insurance would not pay for it, so it would be a non-option for me and I would have to live with it.

That is what would happen if the healthcare bill is passed.

My dad had an Appendectomy and it cost $30,000.
What are you not getting about Public Option?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-es
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