Free Speech

[Jeremy]

You should have free speech, but when you say something offensive intentionally at people you should be prepared for the consequences. I believe your speech if rude is grounds to refuse you service at a privately owned business. It is also grounds for someone to tell you to get off private property.

I fully support free speech but it doesn't protect you from other peoples right to defend against it. Just because you can say anything does not mean people have to listen we have freedom of listening too.

Really I think there should be a golden rule here. Don't be a Douche-bag!

I agree with you 100%.

 

[Marcus]

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I wouldn't accept it, but I wouldn't put them in jail. I would not associate with them, do business with them, etc. Society obviously rejects people like that. It doesn't need to be illegal. Someone who says stuff like that would be far worse off than the person he is saying it to.

But don't you understand, those words might have consequences for others?

@Psyhco: mind censoring that, I didn't realise it would slip through :/
Yes it would be breaking the racism law I mentioned earlier, but people could still say, in essence, exactly that, but just more discreetly, so that it had the same impact to those who the person was offending, but broke no laws.

It's not against the law. While the person is an idiot, they have the right to say it. They'll be shunned by society, which is punishment enough.

This is the public order offence, Incitemet to racial hatred.



I know you need to face the consequences of your words, but do people here not see that other people may have to pay these consequences too?

 

[Jeremy]

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But don't you understand, those words might have consequences for others?

@Psyhco: mind censoring that, I didn't realise it would slip through :/
Yes it would be breaking the racism law I mentioned earlier, but people could still say, in essence, exactly that, but just more discreetly, so that it had the same impact to those who the person was offending, but broke no laws.

It's not against the law. While the person is an idiot, they have the right to say it. They'll be shunned by society, which is punishment enough.

This is the public order offence, Incitemet to racial hatred.



I know you need to face the consequences of your words, but do people here not see that other people may have to pay these consequences too?

Laws should protect rights. Insults don't violate anyone's rights. If someone said a racial slur towards me, I'd think they have some mental problem and I would not be offended. You're only going to be offended if you let it offend you. If it's not true, why be offended?

 

[Marcus]

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It's not against the law. While the person is an idiot, they have the right to say it. They'll be shunned by society, which is punishment enough.

This is the public order offence, Incitemet to racial hatred.



I know you need to face the consequences of your words, but do people here not see that other people may have to pay these consequences too?

Laws should protect rights. Insults don't violate anyone's rights. If someone said a racial slur towards me, I'd think they have some mental problem and I would not be offended. You're only going to be offended if you let it offend you. If it's not true, why be offended?

Extremist groups find wearing our own clothes in their country offensive, let alone racial slurs. And you can hardly lock up all the terrorists in asylums just like that, it's not that easy when they're in hiding in the mountains of Pakistan :L

I'm not talking about everyday hooligans shouting at you across the street, I'm thinking more of the more serious cases.