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Okay this is a lot to tackle so let me take this slowly.

For one, let's get this out of the way, there's no such thing as race dysphoria. That's not a thing. That's something that even people on tumblr make fun of.

Gender dysphoria, is not only a medically proven thing, it's an actual, literal issue with a person's brain that makes them have feelings of panic, dissociation, and severe depression because they don't actually recognize themselves when they look in the mirror.

It's actually incredibly insulting of you to assume that people are "faking" it, because I want you to ask yourself truly and honestly, why would someone do that?

Why would someone risk their life over something fake?
Why would someone get kicked out of their house over something fake?

WHY is race dysphoria fake? because the popular opinion is that it is fake? really, that's all you've said. gender dysphoria is real "because they don't actually recognize themselves when they look in the mirror"? that can literally also describe race dysphoria.

there are people out there (not a lot, but they DO exist) that believe they were "meant" to have disabilities and try to live life as disabled people would, by using wheelchairs and crutches and stuff. what about them? what is the KEY DIFFERENCE between transgenders and transracials/transdisabled people? don't just tell me i'm wrong and leave it at that. explain, because i actually don't understand.

why would someone identify as transgender? i think that's actually pretty simple -- they don't fit their gender's norm, and tons of people are supporting transitioning as the solution. because they are being told that it's right, they are willing to give up their friendships and families, because they really and truly believe that it is what they must do. but just because someone believes something does not mean they are right.
 
WHY is race dysphoria fake? because the popular opinion is that it is fake? really, that's all you've said. gender dysphoria is real "because they don't actually recognize themselves when they look in the mirror"? that can literally also describe race dysphoria.

there are people out there (not a lot, but they DO exist) that believe they were "meant" to have disabilities and try to live life as disabled people would, by using wheelchairs and crutches and stuff. what about them? what is the KEY DIFFERENCE between transgenders and transracials/transdisabled people? don't just tell me i'm wrong and leave it at that. explain, because i actually don't understand.

why would someone identify as transgender? i think that's actually pretty simple -- they don't fit their gender's norm, and tons of people are supporting transitioning as the solution. because they are being told that it's right, they are willing to give up their friendships and families, because they really and truly believe that it is what they must do. but just because someone believes something does not mean they are right.

listen.. sweaty ((:
the transracial thing is stupid because "A person of color will NEVER be seen as a white person. Certainly, there are light skinned people of color. But regardless, no person of color will ever receive the true benefits of white privileges. " thank you

gender is a social construct. why is xx considered female and xy considered male? what about those with other combinations of chromosomes?
 
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yeah, i don't think they're women. woman means a female person, not a person who likes stereotypically feminine things. in an ideal world, men (male people) who like things we consider feminine today would not be treated so badly that they are forced to identify as women.

objects and interests are not gendered, and behavior does not determine a person's gender. that is determined by their genitals. people of each gender should be treated the exact same because there is not such thing as a male brain and a female brain. transitioning literally reinforces gender roles.

and allowing transwomen to use women's rooms is also extremely dangerous, since you can't police it without being "transphobic".

no i am not trans. obviously people who don't think it is possible to be trans are not trans

Wow. You are disgusting honestly. I thought you were better, but I'm not even going to bother.

Trans women are women. They identify as women. They face misogyny just like cis women. To say they're not women is disgusting to me.

I think one of your friends is a trans girl? God, I'm sure to tell her to not interact with you. I have been annoyed with various people on this forum, but you are by far the most ignorant.

Do you realize how often trans women are killed? For being who they are?

You know nothing about trans people. You know nothing about my dysphoria. I was assigned female at birth, yes, but that doesn't make me any more of a woman than a trans woman.

You are reducing gender to body parts. This is not the same as putting on blackface.

I guess my dysphoria isn't real then. I guess how much I wish to rip off my breasts isn't real.

Tell me how you do anything for women when you kick trans women out? You're 13, so I'm trying to be as nice as I can, but this is appalling for me to see you say this.

Your feminism is toxic. You are the worst type of feminists honestly.

Trans women can be killed. They face high rates of violence and suicide. They deserve all the support they need. But people like you make it harder for them to survive.

I hate TERFs. Plain and simple. They don't give a **** about intersex people either.
 
So um
Does anyone else get annoyed when people say or act like "they're not like other girls"
It seems like some girls feel superior due to their interests and it's a bit bothersome to me

Because being seen as having "girly" characteristics is negative. Being a girl is considered a negative thing. That's why girls say they "aren't like other girls" because even girls don't want to be seen as girls. That's why "you're being a girl" is so immasculsting and offensive to men/boys

It's ridiculous and girls are being ridiculed for not wanting to be seen as the stereotypical girl it's crazy

At this point it's like girls can't do anything right anything they do is viewed negatively honestly its so sad society has so much hate for girls, especially teenage girls
 
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WHY is race dysphoria fake? because the popular opinion is that it is fake? really, that's all you've said. gender dysphoria is real "because they don't actually recognize themselves when they look in the mirror"? that can literally also describe race dysphoria.

What I literally said:
Gender dysphoria, is not only a medically proven thing, it's an actual, literal issue with a person's brain that makes them have feelings of panic, dissociation, and severe depression because they don't actually recognize themselves when they look in the mirror.

You haven't been reading have you?
 
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I knew this thread was gonna go downhill fast....

My thoughts:
Women should be equal to men
Trans women are women (it's in the name)
If someone identifies as a woman, they are, indeed, a woman. Even if they have a penis still.
 
You haven't been reading have you?

Don't bother honestly. TERFs don't care and never will. They seek only to harm trans women. I'm done honestly, I can tolerate people like Karla or Trundle but this? Even those two never said **** like this.

I'm probably going to get a warning for being mean. Whatever. I'm just disgusted how a child already ate up the toxic **** TERFs spew out.
 
listen.. sweaty ((:
the transracial thing is stupid because "A person of color will NEVER be seen as a white person. Certainly, there are light skinned people of color. But regardless, no person of color will ever receive the true benefits of white privileges. " thank you

gender is a social construct. why is xx considered female and xy considered male? what about those with other combinations of chromosomes?

wait, what? so they're invalid because they won't be accepted? does that mean trans people who don't pass and theoretical trans people who weren't around when transitioning became available are fake too? i am not advocating for transracial people, i legitimately have no idea what you're saying

white text: ??? people with other chromosome combinations are intersex, and should be the exact same as male and female people. i don't get why you think i'd think otherwise. i have been saying that gender is a social construct, and that is why people can't be trans. they just have personalities.

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Wow. You are disgusting honestly. I thought you were better, but I'm not even going to bother.

Trans women are women. They identify as women. They face misogyny just like cis women. To say they're not women is disgusting to me.

I think one of your friends is a trans girl? God, I'm sure to tell her to not interact with you. I have been annoyed with various people on this forum, but you are by far the most ignorant.

Do you realize how often trans women are killed? For being who they are?

You know nothing about trans people. You know nothing about my dysphoria. I was assigned female at birth, yes, but that doesn't make me any more of a woman than a trans woman.

You are reducing gender to body parts. This is not the same as putting on blackface.

I guess my dysphoria isn't real then. I guess how much I wish to rip off my breasts isn't real.

Tell me how you do anything for women when you kick trans women out? You're 13, so I'm trying to be as nice as I can, but this is appalling for me to see you say this.

Your feminism is toxic. You are the worst type of feminists honestly.

Trans women can be killed. They face high rates of violence and suicide. They deserve all the support they need. But people like you make it harder for them to survive.

I hate TERFs. Plain and simple. They don't give a **** about intersex people either.

it sucks that you are dysphoric, but ripping off your breasts is not the answer. some people want to rip off their limbs, but doctors do not actually let them amputate their limbs because that's just not the right solution. i don't know how you feel, but i sympathize with you like i sympathize with other people who have medical conditions.

GENDER IS LITERALLY BODY PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it should only be used for medical stuff, and people of both genders should be treated the exact same (no male/female marketing). interests are a part of people's PERSONALITIES, not their genders. that is like saying only people with blond hair can like cats, and anyone else who likes cats must be transblond. both exist, but they are 100% unrelated.

violence against trans people (or anyone else) is never justified. i am saying that i do not agree with people identifying as trans, not that i want to kill them.

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You haven't been reading have you?

gender dysphoria is real. people can hate their bodies due to their gendered characteristics.

race dysphoria is real. people can hate their bodies due to their racial characteristics.

disability dysphoria is real. people can hate their bodies due to their disabilities or lack therof.

transitioning is never the answer in any of these scenarios.
 
Gender is actually not body parts biological sex is body parts.... Gender is a social construct.... Just want to make that clear carry on
 
Because being seen as having "girly" characteristics is negative. Being a girl is considered a negative thing. That's why girls say they "aren't like other girls" because even girls don't want to be seen as girls. That's why "you're being a girl" is so immasculsting and offensive to men/boys

It's ridiculous and girls are being ridiculed for not wanting to be seen as the stereotypical girl it's crazy

At this point it's like girls can't do anything right anything they do is viewed negatively honestly its so sad society has so much hate for girls, especially teenage girls

I've seen the "I'm not like other girls" thing said by about as many males as I have females (though they say "like other boys"), probably largely due to the same reasons you've given for why girls say it.
 
I don't believe in the existence of gender. It is made up by humans. How do you say you feel like you are a certain gender without being stereotypical of one sex?
 
I've seen the "I'm not like other girls" thing said by about as many males as I have females (though they say "like other boys"), probably largely due to the same reasons you've given for why girls say it.

Okay well I've literally never seen that and probably not largely due to the same reasons since women are generally viewed as inferior to men in society

I've never heard of a boy being ridiculed for acting "too much like a boy"
 
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Okay well I've literally never seen that and probably not largely due to the same reasons since women are generally viewed as inferior to men in society

I've never heard of a boy being ridiculed for acting "too much like a boy"

it's more like

girl stereotypes: dumb, cares about nothing but clothes/makeup, hates sports/physical activity
boy stereotypes: no emotions, successful, hates clothes/makeup, loves sports

boys/girls feel they're not like other boys/girls because they do not fit into said stereotypes
it is more common in girls than boys because girls have more negative stereotypes associated with them, but they say it for the same reasons basically
 
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