Do you believe we should respect and have rights for insects and arachnids?
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Aleigh
sans n pap need to be protected under all costs
Animals such as dogs are different, they are more mentally developed and actually have true feelings like to love. Bugs don't, they don't have the mental capability. I'm not saying they don't feel pain, I'm sure they do, but they cannot get "close" enough to something. They are only there to live, reproduce, die.
That and I have very severe arachnophobia and think all spiders, ticks, mites, scorpions, and other spawns of hell should just disappear into oblivion. Even crabs are scary af.
Fun fact: Daddy long-legs are not spiders.
"Most Americans who spend time outdoors use the term for long-legged harvestmen (below, right), which are ground-dwelling outdoor creatures. Harvestmen are arachnids, but they are not spiders -- in the same way that butterflies are insects, but they are not beetles. Harvestmen have one body section (spiders have two), two eyes on a little bump (most spiders have eight), a segmented abdomen (unsegmented in spiders), no silk, no venom, a totally different respiratory system, and many other differences; not all have long legs."
But they are still freaKING HELL SPAWNS
That and I have very severe arachnophobia and think all spiders, ticks, mites, scorpions, and other spawns of hell should just disappear into oblivion. Even crabs are scary af.
Fun fact: Daddy long-legs are not spiders.
"Most Americans who spend time outdoors use the term for long-legged harvestmen (below, right), which are ground-dwelling outdoor creatures. Harvestmen are arachnids, but they are not spiders -- in the same way that butterflies are insects, but they are not beetles. Harvestmen have one body section (spiders have two), two eyes on a little bump (most spiders have eight), a segmented abdomen (unsegmented in spiders), no silk, no venom, a totally different respiratory system, and many other differences; not all have long legs."
But they are still freaKING HELL SPAWNS
I read back and I'm legit wondering how tf a thread on "bugs' rights" turned into racism (and why did a thread on "bugs rights" even get created LOL #firstworldproblems)
maybe it wouldn't be such a big issue though if people didn't link or connect literally everything to it...... just saying :/
you have to take into consideration those who have blood sugar issues and literally have to eat meat every few hours or they get a sugar crash/sick like myself. I've tried soy, beans, dairy, and tons of substitutes but it always ends up with me getting a sugar crash and having to go back to meats. which goes back to the whole bugs' rights thing.... they deserve rights but we all live in a world that's one giant food chain. even if you save that one cricket or fly, it doesn't mean that it won't get in your neighbor's house and get murdered in there. and they'll always be eating other living things since bugs don't care about politics and giving every living thing a chance at life so much like most people, which is why I'm still on the fence about this. it just really depends on the scenario on whether or not it deserves to live.
maybe it wouldn't be such a big issue though if people didn't link or connect literally everything to it...... just saying :/
you have to take into consideration those who have blood sugar issues and literally have to eat meat every few hours or they get a sugar crash/sick like myself. I've tried soy, beans, dairy, and tons of substitutes but it always ends up with me getting a sugar crash and having to go back to meats. which goes back to the whole bugs' rights thing.... they deserve rights but we all live in a world that's one giant food chain. even if you save that one cricket or fly, it doesn't mean that it won't get in your neighbor's house and get murdered in there. and they'll always be eating other living things since bugs don't care about politics and giving every living thing a chance at life so much like most people, which is why I'm still on the fence about this. it just really depends on the scenario on whether or not it deserves to live.
nintendofan85
Good grief.
While I don't hate bugs, and I can actually find spiders interesting sometimes, I don't really think we should give them rights in the way you describe, no.
FleuraBelle
Fluffy Princess
No way, I'm not going to let a fly buzzing around in my room stay that way. Its choice is either to get swatted by me or fly into another room.
I often feel bad when I kill a bug but I have a severe fear of literally every type of insect so I feel relieved when they are out of my way.
I often feel bad when I kill a bug but I have a severe fear of literally every type of insect so I feel relieved when they are out of my way.
Danielkang2
Collectibles are for Sale
Insects are in the same category as animals and should be treated as such. We should be wise in what we do to them and think if it makes sense. If we are going to use them either for sustenance or if they're causing harm we can kill them, if not don't. You shouldn't mindlessly kill them for pleasure. But the important thing is that the criteria of treatment should be same for insects and animals and imo I think the line should be drawn on if they're causing harm or if we'll use them.
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It's so funny when you completely botch the value of animals and say they're nearly equal to humans and insects don't matter at all. Either humans are completely apart from animals and insects or we're all equal those are the only values that make sense.
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It's so funny when you completely botch the value of animals and say they're nearly equal to humans and insects don't matter at all. Either humans are completely apart from animals and insects or we're all equal those are the only values that make sense.
KaydeeKrunk
The Late Great Turt
Bugs are really great, and even though I don't really know about "rights" but they definitely deserve respect and not for people to kill first and ask questions later. They are super neat if you learn about them, and I try to rehome spiders and other bugs to outside if I find them indoors, the only bugs I don't care for really are ants and gnats. They can go right to heck the lot of them.
I don't think people bringing up racism is a "big issue", racism itself is the issue?
I know, I understand that not everyone can be vegan, either due to health reasons or because they live in a country where they rely completley on meat. I understand that completely, I'm not some militant vegan standing here like "everyone has to go vegan!" because for one that's absurd, and two, I don't even care what other people do. I'm just saying that it is possible for most people to live completley healthily on a vegan diet, as Jared said you need meat in your diet, which, for most people, is untrue.
How is killing a fly anything to do with the food chain? Most people don't eat bugs so the food chain is irrelevant, it's nothing to do with food, it's about mindlessly killing bugs for no reason, and whether that's right or not
Danielkang2
Collectibles are for Sale
The reason a thread like this even exists as some people think animals are as precious as humans like srsly? There's only two arguments one is all are on the same level or humans are apart from animals. You can't be like oh dogs have rights but not the snail on the street. Also respect and rights are different. Insects should be treated with respect to a certain extent but they don't have rights lmao.
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This is why I said in order for insects to be treated equally with animals there should be a line drawn for both and I feel that you shouldn't kill it unless it is harming you or you're going to eat it. If there's any arguments to a topic that shouldn't have any feel free to tell me lol.
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This is why I said in order for insects to be treated equally with animals there should be a line drawn for both and I feel that you shouldn't kill it unless it is harming you or you're going to eat it. If there's any arguments to a topic that shouldn't have any feel free to tell me lol.
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RainbowCherry
Bus Thanker
This thread is hilarious, I luagh at this when I see it
You were my favourite comedic relief.
I don't care whether they get rights or not. I wouldn't waste the time. I don't go around my house looking for bugs and beating the living crap out of them, I just don't think it'd do anything because of the lower.
How would you even monitor these rights, anyway?
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the voting results in the pole disgust me
many arachnids and insects are vital to the ecosystem and beneficial to humans and animals alike.
yes, there are many 'pest' species that are not beneficial/harmful to other creatures, but so many are harmless and/or good in some way it's ridiculous to even consider saying 'no' to a question like this.
There are thousands of different kinds/variations of insect, arachnid and true bug. Many of them play important roles in the food chain and in our lives.
Lepidoptera, Anthophila, Vespidae. Major pollinators. Vespids seem mostly omnivorous leaning toward carnivorous and target a lot of pest species, which in turn is helping us given it's cutting back the population.
Arachnids do the same, given they're 'carnivorous' so to speak. ( Unlike vespids they do not masticate their food, but they consume other arachnids and bugs/insects, some even avian/reptile/etc. )
There are some species I'm sure the world would be entirely fine without, I will admit this.
That doesn't mean they all should cease to exist, and that none should have rights/value.
smh ignorant people raised in fear of bugs. the fact some people are afraid of butterflies baffles me and makes me genuinely angry.
many arachnids and insects are vital to the ecosystem and beneficial to humans and animals alike.
yes, there are many 'pest' species that are not beneficial/harmful to other creatures, but so many are harmless and/or good in some way it's ridiculous to even consider saying 'no' to a question like this.
There are thousands of different kinds/variations of insect, arachnid and true bug. Many of them play important roles in the food chain and in our lives.
Lepidoptera, Anthophila, Vespidae. Major pollinators. Vespids seem mostly omnivorous leaning toward carnivorous and target a lot of pest species, which in turn is helping us given it's cutting back the population.
Arachnids do the same, given they're 'carnivorous' so to speak. ( Unlike vespids they do not masticate their food, but they consume other arachnids and bugs/insects, some even avian/reptile/etc. )
There are some species I'm sure the world would be entirely fine without, I will admit this.
That doesn't mean they all should cease to exist, and that none should have rights/value.
smh ignorant people raised in fear of bugs. the fact some people are afraid of butterflies baffles me and makes me genuinely angry.
the voting results in the pole disgust me
many arachnids and insects are vital to the ecosystem and beneficial to humans and animals alike.
yes, there are many 'pest' species that are not beneficial/harmful to other creatures, but so many are harmless and/or good in some way it's ridiculous to even consider saying 'no' to a question like this.
There are thousands of different kinds/variations of insect, arachnid and true bug. Many of them play important roles in the food chain and in our lives.
Lepidoptera, Anthophila, Vespidae. Major pollinators. Vespids seem mostly omnivorous leaning toward carnivorous and target a lot of pest species, which in turn is helping us given it's cutting back the population.
Arachnids do the same, given they're 'carnivorous' so to speak. ( Unlike vespids they do not masticate their food, but they consume other arachnids and bugs/insects, some even avian/reptile/etc. )
There are some species I'm sure the world would be entirely fine without, I will admit this.
That doesn't mean they all should cease to exist, and that none should have rights/value.
smh ignorant people raised in fear of bugs. the fact some people are afraid of butterflies baffles me and makes me genuinely angry.
Who said anything about killing all insects and arachnids?
Fantasyrick
What’s up boo!
Ikr no one can seem to keep anything civil
Should I bring up that thread you made about cussing out a lady at a restaurant????
Animals and humans are almost definitely not on the exact same level as humans, but type of sentience and level of sentience shouldn't be confused with worth.
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Animals and humans are almost definitely not on the exact same level as humans, but type of sentience and level of sentience shouldn't be confused with worth.
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As I have said though, how do we actually know for sure that that's an accurate statement? It's been only VERY recently that science is even willing to admit that dogs have feelings, we may be very behind in proving the level of emotion that bugs and arachnids can experience.
