Call of Duty 4 new maps are out!

[Bulerias]

There's only like a 10% chance that you'll end up getting it. Out of my 26 friends with 360s none have gotten the "Red Ring of Death."

Unless you have some proof to back that statement up, it's useless conjecture in my opinion.

I've already made up my mind. Unless Microsoft fixes their hardware issues, I'm not biting. A PS3 is looking more and more appealing every day, though...

Hah, buy a PS3 and regret it for the rest of the decade.

Yeah, that's what the media wants you to believe.

PS3 might outsell both 360 and Wii by the end of the race, if you ask me.

 

[AndyB]

There's only like a 10% chance that you'll end up getting it. Out of my 26 friends with 360s none have gotten the "Red Ring of Death."

Unless you have some proof to back that statement up, it's useless conjecture in my opinion.

I've already made up my mind. Unless Microsoft fixes their hardware issues, I'm not biting. A PS3 is looking more and more appealing every day, though...

Hah, buy a PS3 and regret it for the rest of the decade.

Yeah, that's what the media wants you to believe.

PS3 might outsell both 360 and Wii by the end of the race, if you ask me.

I couldn't care less if they did.
I'm happy with Wii60, end of for me.

 

[Bulerias]

There's only like a 10% chance that you'll end up getting it. Out of my 26 friends with 360s none have gotten the "Red Ring of Death."

Unless you have some proof to back that statement up, it's useless conjecture in my opinion.

I've already made up my mind. Unless Microsoft fixes their hardware issues, I'm not biting. A PS3 is looking more and more appealing every day, though...

Hah, buy a PS3 and regret it for the rest of the decade.

Yeah, that's what the media wants you to believe.

PS3 might outsell both 360 and Wii by the end of the race, if you ask me.

I couldn't care less if they did.
I'm happy with Wii60, end of for me.

I don't care who wins, either. What I want is a reliable piece of hardware I know won't break in a few months.

 

[AndyB]

There's only like a 10% chance that you'll end up getting it. Out of my 26 friends with 360s none have gotten the "Red Ring of Death."

Unless you have some proof to back that statement up, it's useless conjecture in my opinion.

I've already made up my mind. Unless Microsoft fixes their hardware issues, I'm not biting. A PS3 is looking more and more appealing every day, though...

Hah, buy a PS3 and regret it for the rest of the decade.

Yeah, that's what the media wants you to believe.

PS3 might outsell both 360 and Wii by the end of the race, if you ask me.

I couldn't care less if they did.
I'm happy with Wii60, end of for me.

I don't care who wins, either. What I want is a reliable piece of hardware I know won't break in a few months.

I've had my Wii for about a year, no problems with it.
My 360 since December, no problems yet.

 

[Mino]

There's only like a 10% chance that you'll end up getting it. Out of my 26 friends with 360s none have gotten the "Red Ring of Death."

Unless you have some proof to back that statement up, it's useless conjecture in my opinion.

I've already made up my mind. Unless Microsoft fixes their hardware issues, I'm not biting. A PS3 is looking more and more appealing every day, though...

Hah, buy a PS3 and regret it for the rest of the decade.

Yeah, that's what the media wants you to believe.

PS3 might outsell both 360 and Wii by the end of the race, if you ask me.

I've had two 360's that have had heavy use for months.

No RROD here.

This is just your most recent random viewpoint. The PS3 is not going anywhere.

 

[Bulerias]

There's only like a 10% chance that you'll end up getting it. Out of my 26 friends with 360s none have gotten the "Red Ring of Death."

Unless you have some proof to back that statement up, it's useless conjecture in my opinion.

I've already made up my mind. Unless Microsoft fixes their hardware issues, I'm not biting. A PS3 is looking more and more appealing every day, though...

Hah, buy a PS3 and regret it for the rest of the decade.

Yeah, that's what the media wants you to believe.

PS3 might outsell both 360 and Wii by the end of the race, if you ask me.

I've had two 360's that have had heavy use for months.

No RROD here.

This is just your most recent random viewpoint. The PS3 is not going anywhere.

Random viewpoint? Alright.

Talk to me in a year or two.

 

[Grawr]

There's only like a 10% chance that you'll end up getting it. Out of my 26 friends with 360s none have gotten the "Red Ring of Death."

Unless you have some proof to back that statement up, it's useless conjecture in my opinion.

I've already made up my mind. Unless Microsoft fixes their hardware issues, I'm not biting. A PS3 is looking more and more appealing every day, though...

Hah, buy a PS3 and regret it for the rest of the decade.

Yeah, that's what the media wants you to believe.

PS3 might outsell both 360 and Wii by the end of the race, if you ask me.

I've had two 360's that have had heavy use for months.

No RROD here.

This is just your most recent random viewpoint. The PS3 is not going anywhere.

Random viewpoint? Alright.

Talk to me in a year or two.

Aw, Bul, come on now. First of all, you have like an unlimited Warranty for the thing. So, if the RRoD occures (Which, by the way, I heard is impossible if you buy a new one. I heard like only the system's toward the beggining of the release had that problem), you send it in, and get a new 360.

Plus, the 360 is an absolutely amazing system. It's unbelievable. I can't stress the difference between playing by yourself on the Wii, and having constant connection with all of your friends on the 360, whether your playing together, or playing two different games and just chatting for a while.

PS3 = Fail.

 

[Bulerias]

See though, I don't want to go through the hassle of sending my system in. Heck, I might just get a refurbished one back!

I don't see what makes PS3 so "fail". It's got a lot of the games 360 does, and some nice exclusives to boot. Sure, it's not doing too hot right now, but if their 10-year plan works out... well, we'll see if Microsoft and Nintendo can hold onto the top spots.

I mean... yeah, 360 has a lot of great games I'd love to play, but PS3 has more that fit my taste.

Metal Gear Solid 4 (been meaning to get into the series)
Jak and Daxter sequel
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
God of War III
All of the Final Fantasy XIII games
The Ratchet and Clank game

PLUS, I've really wanted a PS2 for quite some time now. With most PS3s backwards compatible, I can indulge in the library of what is probably the best system ever... I mean, if you've got Katamari Damacy, what else do you need? <3

 

[Mino]

See though, I don't want to go through the hassle of sending my system in. Heck, I might just get a refurbished one back!

I don't see what makes PS3 so "fail". It's got a lot of the games 360 does, and some nice exclusives to boot. Sure, it's not doing too hot right now, but if their 10-year plan works out... well, we'll see if Microsoft and Nintendo can hold onto the top spots.

I mean... yeah, 360 has a lot of great games I'd love to play, but PS3 has more that fit my taste.

Metal Gear Solid 4 (been meaning to get into the series)
Jak and Daxter sequel
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
God of War III
All of the Final Fantasy XIII games
The Ratchet and Clank game

PLUS, I've really wanted a PS2 for quite some time now. With most PS3s backwards compatible, I can indulge in the library of what is probably the best system ever... I mean, if you've got Katamari Damacy, what else do you need? <3

It has three (3) nice exclusives that are out, versus how many great titles on the 360? Most of those games you listed aren't even out yet.

And believe me Katamari Damacy gets old. And to further reinforce that your opinion was just swayed by some random article you read, you just said the PS2 was the best system ever.

Don't lie to yourself. Xbox > GameCube > PS2

We all know the order of the last generation.

 

[Bulerias]

See though, I don't want to go through the hassle of sending my system in. Heck, I might just get a refurbished one back!

I don't see what makes PS3 so "fail". It's got a lot of the games 360 does, and some nice exclusives to boot. Sure, it's not doing too hot right now, but if their 10-year plan works out... well, we'll see if Microsoft and Nintendo can hold onto the top spots.

I mean... yeah, 360 has a lot of great games I'd love to play, but PS3 has more that fit my taste.

Metal Gear Solid 4 (been meaning to get into the series)
Jak and Daxter sequel
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
God of War III
All of the Final Fantasy XIII games
The Ratchet and Clank game

PLUS, I've really wanted a PS2 for quite some time now. With most PS3s backwards compatible, I can indulge in the library of what is probably the best system ever... I mean, if you've got Katamari Damacy, what else do you need? <3

It has three (3) nice exclusives that are out, versus how many great titles on the 360? Most of those games you listed aren't even out yet.

And believe me Katamari Damacy gets old. And to further reinforce that your opinion was just swayed by some random article you read, you just said the PS2 was the best system ever.

Don't lie to yourself. Xbox > GameCube > PS2

We all know the order of the last generation.

WTH? Random article I read? Dude... honestly.

PS2 has (err, had)...

1) the most good games, I already made a list somewhere on TBT
2) the best third party support
3) online, something the Gamecube barely even HAD

IMO, it's something like... PS2 > Gamecube > Xbox. Pretty much the opposite of your list.

"It has three (3) nice exclusives that are out, versus how many great titles on the 360? Most of those games you listed aren't even out yet."

Wait, three? I think you might've forgotten Uncharted, that new SOCOM game, etc...

I'm not arguing this further. Bottom line: I'd be more interested in a PS3 than a 360, based on my tastes. Aaaand I'd like to be able to play all the PS2 games I missed out on.

 

[Mino]

See though, I don't want to go through the hassle of sending my system in. Heck, I might just get a refurbished one back!

I don't see what makes PS3 so "fail". It's got a lot of the games 360 does, and some nice exclusives to boot. Sure, it's not doing too hot right now, but if their 10-year plan works out... well, we'll see if Microsoft and Nintendo can hold onto the top spots.

I mean... yeah, 360 has a lot of great games I'd love to play, but PS3 has more that fit my taste.

Metal Gear Solid 4 (been meaning to get into the series)
Jak and Daxter sequel
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
God of War III
All of the Final Fantasy XIII games
The Ratchet and Clank game

PLUS, I've really wanted a PS2 for quite some time now. With most PS3s backwards compatible, I can indulge in the library of what is probably the best system ever... I mean, if you've got Katamari Damacy, what else do you need? <3

It has three (3) nice exclusives that are out, versus how many great titles on the 360? Most of those games you listed aren't even out yet.

And believe me Katamari Damacy gets old. And to further reinforce that your opinion was just swayed by some random article you read, you just said the PS2 was the best system ever.

Don't lie to yourself. Xbox > GameCube > PS2

We all know the order of the last generation.

WTH? Random article I read? Dude... honestly.

PS2 has (err, had)...

1) the most good games, I already made a list somewhere on TBT
2) the best third party support
3) online, something the Gamecube barely even HAD

IMO, it's something like... PS2 > Gamecube > Xbox. Pretty much the opposite of your list.

"It has three (3) nice exclusives that are out, versus how many great titles on the 360? Most of those games you listed aren't even out yet."

Wait, three? I think you might've forgotten Uncharted, that new SOCOM game, etc...

I'm not arguing this further. Bottom line: I'd be more interested in a PS3 than a 360, based on my tastes. Aaaand I'd like to be able to play all the PS2 games I missed out on.

The system came out before the other two, so it was a given that it would have a few more titles. However, after the release of the XBox the PS2 got very few viable exclusives. Guitar Hero and Jak and Daxter come to mind. And the GameCube had (next to) no online play, and the online play on the PS2 was below *CEN-2.1-SORD* compared to XBox Live, even 5 years ago.

The 3 were Uncharted, Resistance, and soon to be Metal Gear Solid 4. Resistance is pretty bad if you ask me, anyways.... I've played them, have you?

 

[Bulerias]

See though, I don't want to go through the hassle of sending my system in. Heck, I might just get a refurbished one back!

I don't see what makes PS3 so "fail". It's got a lot of the games 360 does, and some nice exclusives to boot. Sure, it's not doing too hot right now, but if their 10-year plan works out... well, we'll see if Microsoft and Nintendo can hold onto the top spots.

I mean... yeah, 360 has a lot of great games I'd love to play, but PS3 has more that fit my taste.

Metal Gear Solid 4 (been meaning to get into the series)
Jak and Daxter sequel
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
God of War III
All of the Final Fantasy XIII games
The Ratchet and Clank game

PLUS, I've really wanted a PS2 for quite some time now. With most PS3s backwards compatible, I can indulge in the library of what is probably the best system ever... I mean, if you've got Katamari Damacy, what else do you need? <3

It has three (3) nice exclusives that are out, versus how many great titles on the 360? Most of those games you listed aren't even out yet.

And believe me Katamari Damacy gets old. And to further reinforce that your opinion was just swayed by some random article you read, you just said the PS2 was the best system ever.

Don't lie to yourself. Xbox > GameCube > PS2

We all know the order of the last generation.

WTH? Random article I read? Dude... honestly.

PS2 has (err, had)...

1) the most good games, I already made a list somewhere on TBT
2) the best third party support
3) online, something the Gamecube barely even HAD

IMO, it's something like... PS2 > Gamecube > Xbox. Pretty much the opposite of your list.

"It has three (3) nice exclusives that are out, versus how many great titles on the 360? Most of those games you listed aren't even out yet."

Wait, three? I think you might've forgotten Uncharted, that new SOCOM game, etc...

I'm not arguing this further. Bottom line: I'd be more interested in a PS3 than a 360, based on my tastes. Aaaand I'd like to be able to play all the PS2 games I missed out on.

The system came out before the other two, so it was a given that it would have a few more titles. However, after the release of the XBox the PS2 got very few viable exclusives. Guitar Hero and Jak and Daxter come to mind. And the GameCube had (next to) no online play, and the online play on the PS2 was below *CEN-2.1-SORD* compared to XBox Live, even 5 years ago.

The 3 were Uncharted, Resistance, and soon to be Metal Gear Solid 4. Resistance is pretty bad if you ask me, anyways.... I've played them, have you?

Not arguing that Xbox Live was the superior service. Hell, nothing came close to it.

Very few viable exclusives? Look, I don't feel like arguing this; I just know there are more PS2 games I'm interested in than 360, and when you combine that with PS3's line-up... a PS3 is a no-brainer.

I've played Resistance and Uncharted...

I haven't played MGS4, and neither have you.

 

[SL92]

Sorry to interrupt,but the argument is going nowhere if you two compare two generations at once.

PS2 > XBox

360 > PS3

 

[Bulerias]

[quote="Shadow_] Sorry to interrupt,but the argument is going nowhere if you two compare two generations at once.

PS2 > XBox

360 > PS3 [/quote]
Going nowhere? Why?

One of the main reasons for my (hypothetical) purchase of a PS3 would be its backwards compatability... hell, I'll probably have more PS2 games than PS3.

 

[Mino]

Then buy a PS2?

 

[Bulerias]

Then buy a PS2?

Yeah, I'm considering that too.




The likeliest scenarios are:

1) I get a PS2 in the very near future
2) I wait for a few PS3 price drops and then buy one

 

[Grawr]

But, Bul, I'm pretty sure the new 360's can't get the red ring of death. That's the thing...

I think it was a problem with the earlier models only. And if it is possible with the new ones, it's highly unlikely. I may be wrong, but I've heard this from a ton of people.

Although, I guess it's your choice. Definately don't go for the PS2, though. If anything, PS3. But, I still highly suggest a 360.

 

[AndyB]

But, Bul, I'm pretty sure the new 360's can't get the red ring of death. That's the thing...

I think it was a problem with the earlier models only. And if it is possible with the new ones, it's highly unlikely. I may be wrong, but I've heard this from a ton of people.

Let me put it this way:
I had my 360 for about 4/5 months, treated it with care (clean, open space etc.)
But... yesterday... A little *CEN-4.0-SORD* of a Red Light flashes. Plus it was an Elite to Boot. :angry:
I Completely flipped.
WTH?
So I've phoned Xbox Support, being collect soon.
Meaning, no 360 for 2/3 weeks, no Live, no nothing.

 

[Mino]

Ouch.

 

[AndyB]

Ouch.

Yep, so that's me out of the next few Halo challenges.
Shame, I'll miss your banter Mino.